The Art and Science of Microsoft’s Red Team

In this episode of the Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast, host⁠ ⁠⁠Sherrod DeGrippo is joined by Grifter, the legendary Black Hat NOC lead, and Lintile, host of Hacker Jeopardy, to go behind the scenes of DEF CON and Black Hat. They unpack the chaos of managing the world’s most hostile networks, share advice for first-time attendees, and explore the vibrant hacker community that thrives on connection, contests, and lifelong friendships. The conversation also covers how to submit compelling CFP abstracts, why live events matter, and the controlled mayhem that defines Hacker Jeopardy each year in Las Vegas.  Heading to Black Hat? Join us at booth #2246 where we will be recording new episodes, and request to attend the VIP Mixer. We’ll also be hosting the BlueHat podcast, our friends from GitHub, and experts from our incident response team.  In this episode you’ll learn:       Why skipping talks at DEF CON to join contests and villages can be more valuable  Tips for crafting compelling CFP abstracts that stand out among 1,000+ submissions  The importance of connection and niche technical discussions in the hacker community    Some questions we ask:      What advice would you give to someone who has never been to DEF CON?  How does the team plan traps and misdirection in Hacker Jeopardy questions?  What do you think the community should focus on getting out of DEF CON?  Resources:   View Sherrod DeGrippo on LinkedIn     Related Microsoft Podcasts:                    Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson  The BlueHat Podcast  Uncovering Hidden Risks        Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts   Get the latest threat intelligence insights and guidance at Microsoft Security Insider  The Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast is produced by Microsoft and distributed as part of N2K media network.

In this episode of the Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast, host⁠ ⁠⁠Sherrod DeGrippo is joined by Craig Nelson, who leads the elite Microsoft Red Team. Together, they dive into the art and impact of red teaming at Microsoft: what it means to simulate real-world attacks, how threat intelligence informs operations, and why collaboration between red and blue teams is crucial for organizational resilience.   Craig shares the surprising mission that blurred the lines between physical and cyber security, reflects on how AI is reshaping attacker tactics and defensive strategies, and offers advice for aspiring red teamers. From stories of early hacker days in the ’90s to navigating the complexities of securing cloud and AI systems, this conversation is packed with insights on how Microsoft stays ahead of evolving threats.  In this episode you’ll learn:       The role of human behavior in real-world security breaches  How Microsoft’s Secure Future Initiative impacts security culture  What the Microsoft Red Team does and what it doesn’t do  Some questions we ask:      How do you feel about getting caught during a red team operation?  What do you wish people paid more attention to in red team findings?  Is this new AI complexity good or bad for red teaming?    Resources:   View Craig Nelson on LinkedIn   View Sherrod DeGrippo on LinkedIn     Related Microsoft Podcasts:                    Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson  The BlueHat Podcast  Uncovering Hidden Risks        Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts     Get the latest threat intelligence insights and guidance at Microsoft Security Insider    The Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast is produced by Microsoft and distributed as part of N2K media network.

Recorded live at RSAC 2025, this special episode of the Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast, hosted by Sherrod DeGrippo, brings together Jeremy Dallman from the Microsoft Threat Intelligence and Steven Masada from Microsoft’s Digital Crimes Unit.   The panel explores the psychology and techniques behind nation-state and criminal cyber actors, how Microsoft innovatively uses legal and technical disruption to dismantle threats like Cobalt Strike and Storm-2139, and the growing trend of adversaries leveraging AI. From North Korean fake job interviews to China's critical infrastructure infiltration, this episode highlights how Microsoft is staying ahead of the curve—and sometimes even rewriting the playbook.  In this episode you’ll learn:       How targeting attacker techniques is more effective than chasing specific actors  The surprising ways threat actors use AI—for productivity, not just deepfakes  Why North Korean threat actors are building full-blown video games to drop malware  Some questions we ask:      What’s the role of Microsoft’s Digital Crimes Unit and how is it unique in the industry?  Why should cybersecurity professionals read legal indictments?  What impact did Microsoft’s legal actions have on tools like Cobalt Strike and Quakbot?  Resources:   View Jeremy Dallman on LinkedIn   View Steven Masada on LinkedIn   View Sherrod DeGrippo on LinkedIn   Bold action against fraud: Disrupting Storm-1152    Related Microsoft Podcasts:                    Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson  The BlueHat Podcast  Uncovering Hidden Risks      Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts   Get the latest threat intelligence insights and guidance at Microsoft Security Insider    The Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast is produced by Microsoft and distributed as part of N2K media network.

In this episode of the Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast, host Sherrod DeGrippo is joined by Henning Rauch, to discuss Call of the Cyber Duty is a 42-hour global cybersecurity challenge hosted by Microsoft’s Kusto Detective Agency. The competition runs from 12:00 AM Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) on June 8, 2025, and ends at 12:00 AM UTC on June 18, 2025, at 10:00AM UTC. Once a team member opens the first case, they have 42 hours to complete it.Participants will solve a series of investigative puzzles using Kusto Query Language (KQL) — no prior Kusto experience required.   This free, gamified threat-hunting experience is open to individuals and teams, with a $10,000 grand prize, an interactive mystery plot, and a Hall of Fame for the top solvers. Expect fun twists, real-world security skills, and even a surprise appearance by mentalist Lior Suchard or the illusive Professor Smoke!   Later in the episode, Sherrod is joined by security researchers Anna Seitz and Rebecca Light to explore two evolving cyber threats. Anna breaks down the unprecedented collaboration between Russian state-affiliated threat actors Aqua Blizzard and Secret Blizzard, who are combining efforts to target Ukrainian military systems. Rebecca dives into the resurgence of DarkGate malware—this time delivered through a deceptive technique called ClickFix, which uses fake CAPTCHA-like prompts to trick users into activating malicious payloads.   In this episode you’ll learn:       What Kauzar V2 malware is and how it enables long-term remote access and data theft  How Russian threat groups Aqua Blizzard and Secret Blizzard are collaborating  Why DarkGate malware remains relevant thanks to its adaptability and evasion tactics  Some questions we ask:      Are Russian threat actors adopting cybercriminal tactics like initial access brokers?  How does Kauzar V2 malware function, and why is it significant in this campaign?  What is ClickFix, and how does it differ from typical malware delivery methods?  Resources:   View Henning Rauch on LinkedIn   View Rebecca Light on LinkedIn   View Anna Seitz on LinkedIn   View Sherrod DeGrippo on LinkedIn   🕵️‍♀️ Register for the challenge (free!) https://detective.kusto.io/register  🎬 Official trailer featuring Lior Suchard https://youtu.be/sPmTX0ZrnE  🌐 Event homepage (info hub) https://detective.kusto.io  Related Microsoft Podcasts:                    Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson  The BlueHat Podcast  Uncovering Hidden Risks        Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts     Get the latest threat intelligence insights and guidance at Microsoft Security Insider    The Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast is produced by Microsoft and distributed as part of N2K media network.

In this episode of the Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast, host Sherrod DeGrippo is joined by security researchers Anna Seitz and Megan Stalling to unpack new intelligence on the BadPilot Campaign, a sophisticated operation by a subgroup of Seashell Blizzard—also known as APT-44, Iridium, or Sandworm.   The team explores how this subgroup, active since 2021, uses opportunistic access, remote management tools, and Tor based ShadowLink infrastructure to maintain covert control of compromised systems. They also examine trends across threat actor ecosystems, how tactics evolve through shared influence, and why network detection remains a key battleground in defending against persistent global threats.  In this episode you’ll learn:       How evolving network detection is helping stop threat actors  Why Seashell Blizzard targets industrial control systems  When fake Zoom links and meeting invites are used to lure victims into engagement  Some questions we ask:      Have North Korean hackers improved at social engineering lately?  What’s this subgroup’s main goal when it comes to network attacks?  Why would a group like this use such basic tactics instead of more advanced ones?    Resources:   View Megan Stalling on LinkedIn   View Anna Seitz on LinkedIn   View Sherrod DeGrippo on LinkedIn     BadPilot Campaign, Seashell Blizzard   How Microsoft Names Threat Actors     Related Microsoft Podcasts:                    Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson  The BlueHat Podcast  Uncovering Hidden Risks        Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts     Get the latest threat intelligence insights and guidance at Microsoft Security Insider    The Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast is produced by Microsoft and distributed as part of N2K media network.

In this episode of the Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast, host Sherrod DeGrippo is joined by Lauren Proehl, Sydney Marrone, and Jamie Williams to dig into the THOR Collective — a fresh, community-driven initiative bringing modern energy to threat intel.  The group discusses the ongoing tension where developers focus on user-friendly design while security professionals aim to break things to prevent malicious use. They also dive into the THOR Collective, a community-driven initiative with open-source projects like Hearth and their twice-weekly Substack newsletter, Dispatch, which combines research, memes, and real-world lessons to uplift the InfoSec community. The conversation touches on the challenges of security, the disconnect between the public and understanding risks, and the need for more user-friendly, AI-driven security solutions that cater to various skill levels. In this episode you’ll learn:      The value of consistently publishing high-quality content How the THOR Collective addresses this issue through innovative and digestible content The importance of making complex InfoSec topics approachable for different experience levels Some questions we ask:       What’s going on with the rise in toll scam text messages? Why has social engineering remained such a successful tactic for threat actors? How does THOR Collective welcome new voices in InfoSec, and why is this crucial in today’s security landscape? Resources:  View Lauren Proehl on LinkedIn View Sydney Marrone on LinkedIn  View Jamie Williams on LinkedIn  View Sherrod DeGrippo on LinkedIn  THOR Collective Related Microsoft Podcasts:                   Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson The BlueHat Podcast Uncovering Hidden Risks     Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts  Get the latest threat intelligence insights and guidance at Microsoft Security Insider The Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast is produced by Microsoft and distributed as part of N2K media network.

In this episode of the Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast, host Sherrod DeGrippo is joined by security researchers Anna Seitz and Sarah Pfabe to dive into the activities of the Russian-aligned threat actor, Star Blizzard.  Active since 2022, Star Blizzard recently shifted tactics by using WhatsApp for spear-phishing campaigns targeting government officials, NGOs, and academics. The team discusses how this change in approach may be a response to previous exposure of their tactics. They also explore the resilience of Star Blizzard, highlighting Microsoft's disruption of their operations, including the seizure of domains, and the ongoing threat posed by this actor despite legal actions.  In this episode you’ll learn:      Why threat actors like Star Blizzard are highly resilient and quickly adapting What steps users take to avoid falling victim to mobile malware Challenges of monitoring WhatsApp activity and why this platform has become a target Some questions we ask:       What role do QR codes play in Star Blizzard’s phishing campaigns? Why do you think phishing continues to be the number one access vector? How resilient is Star Blizzard when facing disruptions like domain seizures or legal actions? Resources:  View Sarah Pfabe on LinkedIn  View Anna Seitz on LinkedIn  View Sherrod DeGrippo on LinkedIn  Related Microsoft Podcasts:                   Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson The BlueHat Podcast Uncovering Hidden Risks     Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts  Get the latest threat intelligence insights and guidance at Microsoft Security Insider The Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast is produced by Microsoft and distributed as part of N2K media network.

In this special episode marking 50 years of Microsoft, host Sherrod DeGrippo is joined by Charlie Bell, Stephanie Calabrese, John Lambert, and Scott Woodgate to take a deeper look at Microsoft’s incredible journey in cybersecurity.  They share their experiences and reflections on how the company has grown over the last five decades, from the early days of proprietary systems to the transformative rise of cloud computing and AI. As they celebrate this milestone, the conversation dives into the evolution of security practices, the development of key initiatives like the Microsoft Threat Intelligence Center and the Secure Future Initiative, and the culture of collaboration that has always been at the heart of Microsoft’s approach to tackling cybersecurity challenges.  In this episode you’ll learn:      How Microsoft evolved to lead the charge in cloud computing and AI Why Microsoft's security efforts have influenced the broader tech industry The evolution of Microsoft’s security, from XP Service Pack 2 to the Secure Future Initiative Some questions we ask:     How did the company’s culture and products impact you early on?  How have you seen Microsoft’s prioritization toward cybersecurity create change?  Resources:  View Charlie Bell on LinkedIn  View Stephanie Calabrese on LinkedIn  View John Lambert on LinkedIn  View Scott Woodgate on LinkedIn  View Sherrod DeGrippo on LinkedIn  Related Microsoft Podcasts:                   Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson The BlueHat Podcast Uncovering Hidden Risks     Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts  Get the latest threat intelligence insights and guidance at Microsoft Security Insider The Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast is produced by Microsoft and distributed as part of N2K media network.

In this episode of the Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast, host Sherrod DeGrippo is joined by ransomware experts Allan Liska from Recorded Future and Jonathan Braley, Director of Threat Intelligence for IT-ISAC, to get a pulse check on the current state of ransomware.   They discuss how ransomware has shifted from simple attacks, like Locky, to more sophisticated, high-stakes campaigns targeting entire networks and demanding millions of dollars. Allan and Jonathan also highlight the rise of ransomware-as-a-service, the emergence of big game hunting attacks, and the increasingly professionalized criminal ecosystem surrounding ransomware. The conversation further explores the psychological aspects of cybercrime, focusing on the mindset of ransomware operators—particularly in Eastern Europe and Russia—where the line between crime and business can often be blurred.  In this episode you’ll learn:       Why attackers now target entire networks instead of just single machines  How cybercriminal groups turned ransomware into a profitable business model  The unique challenges healthcare employees face during ransomware attacks  Findings from IT-ISAC's recent ransomware reports    Some questions we ask:        How did the Colonial Pipeline attack lead to real-world actions?  Will paying the ransom restore the organization's data and operations?  What are the differences between ransomware from 10-12 years ago and ransomware today?    Resources:   View Allan Liska on LinkedIn   View Jonathan Braley on LinkedIn   View Sherrod DeGrippo on LinkedIn     IT-ISAC Ransomware report  Food and AG-ISAC Ransomware report  Related Microsoft Podcasts:                    Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson  The BlueHat Podcast  Uncovering Hidden Risks        Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts     Get the latest threat intelligence insights and guidance at Microsoft Security Insider      The Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast is produced by Microsoft and distributed as part of N2K media network.

In this episode of the Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast, host Sherrod DeGrippo is joined by Senior Microsoft Security Researcher Kajhon Soyini to explore the Luma Stealer cryptocurrency mining campaign targeting individual computers as part of a large-scale malvertising campaign. They discuss the sophisticated attack chain, which includes DLLs, clipboard malware, process injection via Explorer.exe, and how this impacted nearly one million devices around the globe.   Kajhon explains how attackers use registry modifications, WMI event consumers, and obfuscation techniques like non-standard ports and reverse shells to maintain persistence and evade detection. The duo also covers Microsoft's defense efforts and the challenges of tracking down the origins of these attacks.  In this episode you’ll learn:       Why the attack chain incorporates legacy malware like NetSupport RAT  The overlap between the Luma Stealer and Donarium malware families  How Luma Stealer uses GitHub repositories and redirector networks to deliver malicious payloads    Some questions we ask:         Can you explain how the malware uses the “image file execution objects” registry path?  What role does Netcat play in this campaign’s command and control?  Why do people still mine cryptocurrency today, with all the complexities and attack methods?    Resources:   View Kajhon Soyini on LinkedIn   View Sherrod DeGrippo on LinkedIn   Connect with Sherrod and the team at RSAC    Related Microsoft Podcasts:                    Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson  The BlueHat Podcast  Uncovering Hidden Risks        Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at microsoft.com/podcasts     Get the latest threat intelligence insights and guidance at Microsoft Security Insider      The Microsoft Threat Intelligence Podcast is produced by Microsoft and distributed as part of N2K media network.