
450: Anggun on Turning Down James Bond, Starting Over From Zero & Joining Reacher Season 4
13.11.2026
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Hello, Hello!
In this episode, international singer, songwriter, and actor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anggun joins us to discuss the risks and rewards of rebuilding a creative career across countries and art forms. She shares how she moved from Indonesian stardom to a new life in Europe, then prepared to take on acting through study and a willingness to begin again. The conversation explores film craft, creative resilience, kindness at work, favorite movies, and Anggun’s definition of a life well lived.
We also talk about:
- Anggun performing at the Indonesia–Thailand ASEAN final and seeing Indonesia win on penalties.
- Chris’s story about persuading his German uncle to visit the United States after his uncle worried action movies reflected everyday life.
- Anggun’s experience living in Paris for decades, returning to Indonesia, and navigating her French citizenship.
- Her appreciation for food, including Indonesian chicken dishes and durian, whose strong smell contrasts with its prized flavor.
- And, our recommendations and reactions to https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11995650/?ref_=fn_t_1, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14905854/?ref_=fn_t_1 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1517268/?ref_=fn_t_1, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15398776/?ref_=fn_t_1, and https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0027572/?ref_=fn_t_1.
People, Places, Products, and Websites Mentioned:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anggun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devi_Dja
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Ritchson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosie_O%27Donnell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halle_Berry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Yeoh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Lee
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Statham
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mads_Mikkelsen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_Bullock
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvester_Stallone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_Wilson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pattinson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Scorsese
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Nolan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Fincher
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%A9dric_Klapisch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susanne_Bier
Anggun’s Work
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_on_the_Sahara
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reacher_(TV_series) (as Amisha Hoth)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31382021/?ref_=fn_t_1 (Para Perasuk)
Films, TV & Music
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Equalizer_(film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourne_(franchise)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_(1997_film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Royal_Tenenbaums
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantastic_Mr._Fox_(film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbie_(film)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15398776/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14905854/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lobster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogma_(film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_Box_(film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Christ_Superstar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11995650/?ref_=fn_t_1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Hard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transporter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_and_the_Pirates
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart-Shaped_Box
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Reacher
Platforms, Brands & Organizations
https://www.storyblocks.com/makeit
https://www.sundance.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia%27s_Got_Talent
https://eurovision.tv/
https://www.disney.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith_Fair
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASEAN_Championship
https://www.mlssoccer.com/
https://www.nashvillesc.com/
https://www.chelseafc.com/
Places
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakarta
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thailand
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States
Other
https://olala-cafe.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian
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This episode is brought to you by MAKE IT Academy. Get access to 200+ courses today at https://themakeitpodcast.com/pages/academy and use code: ACADEMY50 for 50% off the Academy for a year!
Hello, Hello!
In this episode, international singer, songwriter, and actor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anggun joins us to discuss the risks and rewards of rebuilding a creative career across countries and art forms. She shares how she moved from Indonesian stardom to a new life in Europe, then prepared to take on acting through study and a willingness to begin again. The conversation explores film craft, creative resilience, kindness at work, favorite movies, and Anggun’s definition of a life well lived.
We also talk about:
- Anggun performing at the Indonesia–Thailand ASEAN final and seeing Indonesia win on penalties.
- Chris’s story about persuading his German uncle to visit the United States after his uncle worried action movies reflected everyday life.
- Anggun’s experience living in Paris for decades, returning to Indonesia, and navigating her French citizenship.
- Her appreciation for food, including Indonesian chicken dishes and durian, whose strong smell contrasts with its prized flavor.
- And, our recommendations and reactions to https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11995650/?ref_=fn_t_1, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14905854/?ref_=fn_t_1 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1517268/?ref_=fn_t_1, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15398776/?ref_=fn_t_1, and https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0027572/?ref_=fn_t_1.
People, Places, Products, and Websites Mentioned:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anggun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devi_Dja
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Ritchson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosie_O%27Donnell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halle_Berry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Yeoh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Lee
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Statham
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mads_Mikkelsen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_Bullock
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvester_Stallone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_Wilson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pattinson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Scorsese
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Nolan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Fincher
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%A9dric_Klapisch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susanne_Bier
Anggun’s Work
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_on_the_Sahara
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reacher_(TV_series) (as Amisha Hoth)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31382021/?ref_=fn_t_1 (Para Perasuk)
Films, TV & Music
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Equalizer_(film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourne_(franchise)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_(1997_film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Royal_Tenenbaums
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantastic_Mr._Fox_(film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbie_(film)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15398776/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14905854/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lobster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogma_(film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_Box_(film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Christ_Superstar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11995650/?ref_=fn_t_1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Hard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transporter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_and_the_Pirates
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart-Shaped_Box
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Reacher
Platforms, Brands & Organizations
https://www.storyblocks.com/makeit
https://www.sundance.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia%27s_Got_Talent
https://eurovision.tv/
https://www.disney.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith_Fair
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASEAN_Championship
https://www.mlssoccer.com/
https://www.nashvillesc.com/
https://www.chelseafc.com/
Places
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakarta
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thailand
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States
Other
https://olala-cafe.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-make-it-podcast--7516419/support.
We’re humbled to have a community of creatives who care deeply about our work, and your support makes it all possible. If you want to go deeper, join the MAKE IT Academy. Members get 200+ courses on screenwriting, acting, producing, directing, and film financing, plus members-only perks, discounts, and a bi-weekly newsletter with exclusive grants and film programs.
Memberships start at $9.99/month, and you can gift one to a fellow filmmaker.
Join here: https://themakeitpodcast.com/pages/academy
Cheers, and best of luck on your filmmaking journey. #MAKEIT
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