
Listen to part 1:
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Best selling author Margie Warrell chats with Jac & Ral in part 2 of the Courage Gap episode to unpack the psychology of everyday bravery, leadership, and resilience. Margie opens up about holding back when she spotted Oprah’s best friend, to her bold leap of faith after working out next to Jill Biden.
This episode dives deep into why courage is not a fixed trait you’re born with, but a practical muscle you can train every day and discusses the difference between being a tough leader vs a courageous leader.
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