[446] How to pitch yourself as a podcast guest
Being a guest on other peoples’ podcasts is a great way to build your audience - and your authority. But most podcast hosts get far more pitches than they can handle - which means they can afford to be choosy about who guests on their show. So what’s the best way to pitch yourself as a podcast guest? And how can you make sure your pitch stands out from the rest? In this podcast episode, you’ll learn how to craft the perfect email pitch for a podcast and how to increase your chances of getting a ‘yes’ from the host. You’ll also find out what podcast hosts are looking for in a guest and the common mistakes to avoid in your pitch. {Click on the player above to listen to the podcast episode and/or read on for a detailed overview. Scroll down to the bottom to read the show notes including all the links mentioned in this episode.} Why it's worth being a podcast guest Why Being a podcast guest is a great way to get in front of your ideal customers/clients - and build your audience - fast. It’s much quicker than writing a guest blog post. Most podcast interviews last between 30-60 mins. This means you can potentially do several a week. It’s also a great way to build trust quickly. There’s something about being in someone’s earbuds that’s much more intimate than the written word. Which means that by the end of a 30 minute interview, people often feel they know, like and trust you enough to visit your website, download your free resources and/or even buy your products/services. And the best thing is, every time you appear on someone else’s podcast, you’re getting in front of a brand new audience - an audience you haven’t had to build yourself. So if you set yourself a target to do three interviews a week, you could potentially build your audience by thousands - in a relatively short space of time. But before you get too excited…let’s back up a bit. Most podcast hosts - particularly on popular shows - get dozens of pitches each week. So competition for guest spots can be pretty tough. So how do you write a pitch for a podcast host that really stands out? Read on and find out. And why not check out my YouTube video about pitching yourself as a podcast guest as well:- 1. Focus on how you can help the podcast host (not yourself) As a podcast host, this is what I’m looking for in a guest: Someone who can provide great content for my audience. In my case, this is practical ‘how to’ advice on listeners can apply in their business on social media marketing, content marketing and email marketing. On another podcast, great content might simply be entertainment or providing information about a specific topic. Someone who has an established online presence in the form of a blog, vlog, podcast and/or has written a book. Not only does this mean they have an audience they can share our podcast interview with, but it also means I can serve my listeners by directing them towards more useful content. Sadly, most of the pitches I get are focused on what the person doing the pitching hopes to get out of the interview rather than how they can help my audience. In many cases, it’s clear they haven’t even listened to the show (or even scrolled through previous episode titles) to get a feel for the kind of content I offer. I think my experience is pretty typical - which is why I say 'no' to most pitches I receive. If you can focus on how you can help the podcast host - rather than yourself - you'll have a much better chance of getting a 'yes'. 2. Label the subject header of your email Most podcast hosts are actively looking for great content, so label the subject line of your email and they’re far more likely to pay attention. 3.Use the subject header to summarise your idea A concise subject header that summarises your story (ideally in ten words or less) is far more likely to get a podcast host’s attention. Resist the temptation to use puns or clever wordplay though; an obscure headline that doesn’t mean anything may get ignored.If you’re pitching an interview about how to get more conversions from a Facebook Ad, how to recover from postnatal depression or how to wear beige in winter...that’s exactly what you should say. 4. Keep your introduction brief If you’re pitching cold, it’s a good idea to 'introduce' yourself (a slightly different approach to pitching to journalists). But do keep it brief - or you could lose the podcast host’s attention before you’ve even got started. 5. Show you've actually listened to the podcast Most of the pitches I get are from people who either haven’t listened to my podcast and/or haven’t given any thought to the kind of content I generally run. Say something that shows you’ve taken the time and trouble to actually listen to the podcast, and you’ll stand out a mile. 6. Show you can add value for their audience Many of the pitches I receive offer a series of vague topics the interviewee might cover. When what I’m really looking for is a killer episode idea. And I’m literally looking for a title that will fit right in with previous titles on my podcast app. 7. Show the podcast host how you can help them grow their audience If you want to increase your chances of getting a ‘yes’, you need to show how you can help them grow their audience - by promoting the podcast interview to yours. So do include any relevant stats, like the size of your email list and numbers of social media followers. But don’t let not having a big email list or social media following put you off; personally, I’d rather get in front of 500 people who are exactly the kind of people I love to work than 50,000 people who ‘sort of’ fit. So if you target the right kind of content at the right kind of people, you can usually make a strong case – as long as you’re focused on how you can help the podcast host rather than yourself. Although I have a decent-sized email list (around 15k at the time of writing) it's tiny compared to some of the big podcast hosts I've pitched to. But that's still a significant number of people - and I have specialist knowledge and experience - which makes me a valuable podcast guest. 'Selling' this in my pitches has helped me get on some pretty Big Deal podcasts. If you’re just starting out and your email list is small (or non-existent), focus on the value of the content you can offer. 8. Show that other people value your content If you’ve contributed guest content elsewhere, do mention it in your pitch. Seeing that others value your content - particularly well-established podcasters - should provide reassurance that you know what you’re talking about. 9. Make it as easy as possible for the podcast host to say 'yes' For most podcast hosts, the interview is the enjoyable bit. Chasing people up for photos, biogs and social media handles can be a pain. So make it as easy for them as possible by providing all of that info in your pitch. 10. Don't forget to follow up Getting half an hour or longer on a call with someone you admire - or would love to work with in the future - is a great opportunity to start building a business relationship. I’ve kept in contact with many of the people I’ve interviewed for my podcast - and many who’ve interviewed me for theirs, including Chris Ducker, Natalie Sisson and Amanda Cook. So when your interview goes live, don’t forget to email the host to thank them for the interview...and get out there and promote it. Email your list, share it on all your social media networks and keep on doing it (I’m still sharing podcast interviews I did years ago on social media now). Remember you haven’t just given a podcast interview - you’ve co-created a piece of evergreen content - which is hugely valuable. You might also enjoy: how to use guest content to grow your audience. Find this post useful? Download my FREE podcast pitch template here. Podcast Shownotes Why understanding the audience is key to pitching for a podcast (03:30) Where you might be going wrong with your podcast guest pitch (06:39) How much it costs to make a podcast and why it matters (07:10) What you need to remember when you pitch to a podcast host (07:50) A common mistake people make when pitching to guest on a podcast (10:02) My top tip for pitching yourself as a podcast guest (12:05) Why authority is just as important as expertise (13:50) How to approach your pitch if you haven’t got a huge online audience (17:43) Why you must do your research before you pitch to be a guest on a podcast (19:41) What to write in your email pitch and how to stand out (20:21) Why you shouldn’t pretend you’ve listened to a podcast when you pitch (22:09) How to demonstrate the value that you can add as a podcast guest (and what you need to avoid) (23:15) Why podcasts hosts aren’t always looking for Big Name Guests (26:40) What podcasts guests are looking for in a podcast guest (27:25) How to make it easy for a podcast host to say ‘yes’ to you (30:21) Why creating a one-sheet that includes photos and bio and social media handles can make it easier to get booked as a podcast guest (31:30) Why it’s worth keeping in touch with podcast hosts after the interview (32:13) Other resources Join my Courageous Content mini-courseJoin my Instagram Success Academy Other useful podcasts [Bonus] Should you join Janet Murray’s Build Your Online Audience Programme? 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