Why the Manosphere Just Won the Lindsey Clancy Trial

"There's actually a push by feminists now to criminalize being an incel." "So — it's over for me then." Hannah Wallen hosts Talk 416 with Lauren Brooks, Mike Stevenson and Richard the Lionhearted, on the proposal to solve male loneliness by outlawing the men nobody picked. Also: anhedonia, and what it's like to be around someone who needs everyone else to be unhappy too; the stock answers lonely men get — not all women are like that, you haven't tried, no woman would reject you over your height; why a woman who brought no wealth into a marriage used to be unmarriageable; and the UK assisted dying bill moving again. "The safeguard is that the conversation should be initiated by the patient, not the doctor. Especially in a situation where the illness is not terminal." Support the show: feedthebadger.com/support Send us a message: feedthebadger.com/justthetip Join the community: badgernation.online

"Throughout all of our history, women have worked. The 50s was an aberration that we're still paying for, because it spawned feminism." "I don't see why we can't simply start the debate by saying feminism wanted to destroy marriage and it succeeded. Now what? Now that we've tried that — can we try not dying as a species?" Brian and Alison watch Rachel Wilson's rematch with NotSoErudite, who spends it arguing that the Gulf states' falling birth rates prove feminism isn't the cause, and that the problem is really the gold standard. Also: why firing a man used to mean starving his children and his female relatives, and what happens to labour protections once it doesn't; and the fertility numbers — 2.18 for a non-liberal woman without a degree, 1.39 for a liberal woman with one. "Why are you turning feminism into a person? … She immediately opens up with relational-web stuff, right? I'm going to judge you based on your relationship to feminism, guys. Very important." Support the show: feedthebadger.com/support Send us a message: feedthebadger.com/justthetip Join the community: badgernation.online

"Empathy was never the problem. Empathy is kind of good — it's difficult to be too empathetic. This is not a result of being too empathetic. It's a result of being too hateful." Brian, Hannah Wallen, Mike Stevenson and Dr Randomercam on Patrick Clancy's 60 Minutes interview, where he answered accusations against him directly — that he was uncaring, unfaithful, or responsible himself. Also: what he called a huge distraction from perinatal mental health; why a jury is meant to vet the evidence put in front of it, not just weigh it; and Hannah on reporting a nursing home to the state ombudsman and being written up for insubordination. "You have no idea how black-pilled I am, folks. If I could express just how black-pilled I am, it would blind you. But I know you don't want to hear it, so I hold back. You might call it cowardice, but I do it for your sake, dear listeners." Support the show: feedthebadger.com/support Send us a message: feedthebadger.com/justthetip Join the community: badgernation.online

"Anything that applies any kind of expectation or effort that women have to apply is the manosphere now. Which means the manosphere is life. It's love. It's physics. It's grammar. It's justice. It's kids still being alive to live out their lives." Brian and Alison read "Why the Manosphere Just Won the Lindsay Clancy Debate" by Luke Olinga, published before the jury hung, and work through what he was claiming and what happened instead. Also: why his comparison to a black defendant undercuts his own argument; and what the holdout was told when he asked about the medication. "The manosphere equals people we don't like, because they don't have a problem being mean to women sometimes. That's all it requires. The justice system is the manosphere — only if it actually works." "Intersectionality is the greatest criminal laundering tool in human history. All victimhood flows upwards to the white liberal woman, and then they get to use it to socially climb." Support the show: feedthebadger.com/support Send us a message: feedthebadger.com/justthetip Join the community: badgernation.online

"Moral agency. What women, particularly feminists, seem to be running from like Indiana Jones ran from a fricking boulder." Brian and Alison continue through Rachel Wilson's debate on whether feminism has done more harm than good, as she lays out six pillars of propaganda and introduces a seventh, which she calls the she-conomy. Also: money denominated in debt, for more debt, using debt as collateral for more debt; how women who can't trust men can still trust the government somehow; the Thames tunnel, the Hoover Dam and the world wars as the same expectation of men; and the Redstockings Manifesto as the template for the whole feminist academic corpus. "They're not just reliant on men's labour. They're reliant on men's complicity. Because otherwise their entire identity would crumble." Support the show: feedthebadger.com/support Send us a message: feedthebadger.com/justthetip Join the community: badgernation.online

"I've seen a billboard. It's lawyer maxing." Hannah Wallen hosts with Richard the Lionhearted, on a post by Shadowclaw about what happened to a generation of young men once women got picky about who they'd even spend time with — and the reply insisting it was all about sex. Also: why being picky in the eighties and nineties had a rationale; the difference between deserving something and being more likely to get it; and the reply that accused him of saying what he'd just explained he didn't mean. "Anything with the word maxing added to it — it's going to become a thing. Biscuit maxing." Support the show: feedthebadger.com/support Send us a message: feedthebadger.com/justthetip Join the community: badgernation.online

"It's not normal that we have hours and hours of content analysing what triggers attraction in females." Brian talks to Bradley, co-host with Steven Baskerville of A Male Space, a YouTube channel on men's health, fitness, nutrition, fatherhood and loneliness. Also: his ranking of societies from socially enforced monogamy down to the rampant, unregulated polygamy of today; why he named the channel for something men no longer have; the veterinary steroids that were common in gyms in the early nineties, and the teenagers taking bodybuilding drugs now; and the exterminationist strain of feminism. "We don't have organised polygamy. What we have today is rampant, unregulated polygamy. If you had the formal kind, people would at least understand who the father of the children is. In this day and age there's no rhyme or reason to it at all." Support the show: feedthebadger.com/support Send us a message: feedthebadger.com/justthetip Join the community: badgernation.online

"This isn't even a black pill anymore, folks. It's a pill of a colour that only a mantis shrimp can see. It's ultra-red slash infra-green pilled." Brian, Hannah Wallen and Dr Randomercam on the campaign to identify the holdout juror from the Clancy mistrial, and what anyone is meant to do with his name once they have it. Also: the statue question, and where the logic stops once it starts; what the transcriber wrote down in place of Patrick Clancy's screaming on the 911 call; the professor's estimate of 212 million killed by governments in the twentieth century; and the anniversary of the Kirk shooting. "If he had just had his attitude all by himself, with nobody agreeing with him much less obeying him, he'd have been a madman ranting in the street. He'd have sounded like a feminist. And there would have been no history there." Support the show: feedthebadger.com/support Send us a message: feedthebadger.com/justthetip Join the community: badgernation.online

"Let them eat cake — and the cake is destroying the civilization that makes cake." Brian and Alison work through a video by a woman explaining that the birth rate is society's fault, and that women are not incubators for GDP. Also: why a society is meant to make a man's worth legible to women, and how our society does the reverse; and why a man's income decides whether he marries and a woman's decides nothing. Then a replay of the best of the gaming stream — Aaron Rodgers on his fiancée's request for a hall pass, and a superchat about a romance novel involving minotaurs and Starbucks. "I don't even think it's day-to-day submission anymore. I think it's just — be happy with the men you got and shut up." Support the show: feedthebadger.com/support Send us a message: feedthebadger.com/justthetip Join the community: badgernation.online

"Women are presenting us with this paradox that we won't have sex with you until a different woman has had sex with you. We won't approve of you until another woman has approved of you. So you go — what do I do then?" Hannah Wallen hosts Talk 414 on a post arguing men need to be more social, and the reaction when they are. Also: why "women don't owe you sex" is not an answer to men being shut out of social contact entirely; Alcoholics Anonymous and the concept of loving detachment; and what the Manic Pixie Dream Girl is shielded from. "Women complain that their preferred partners are narcissists. Their preferred partners are the top twenty percent of men. So obviously they are." Support the show: feedthebadger.com/support Send us a message: feedthebadger.com/justthetip Join the community: badgernation.online