215 Why EBV Keeps Reactivating in Hashimoto’s with Dr. Kasia Kines

If you have Hashimoto's and have been told your blood sugar is "borderline" or "fine for now," this conversation will change how you think about it. Inna sits down with Dr. Jason Shumard, a functional medicine practitioner with more than two decades of experience in diabetes and insulin resistance, to unpack why blood sugar troubles and thyroid autoimmunity so often travel together. The surprising takeaway is that elevated blood sugar usually isn't a sugar problem at all. It's a signal that something has gone wrong at the level of the cell, and chasing the number alone tends to leave the real issue untouched.Dr. Jason walks through what's actually happening when insulin can no longer do its job, and why the receptors on your cells stop responding in the first place. He explains the role that hidden drivers like infections, mold, heavy metals, chronic inflammation and everyday stress play in keeping the cycle going, and why these overlap so heavily with the same triggers behind Hashimoto's. He and Inna also dig into the lab markers worth paying attention to beyond a basic glucose reading, the optimal ranges he looks for, and the simple ratio already sitting on most standard bloodwork that can flag insulin resistance early.The discussion gets especially practical around carbohydrates, GLP-1 medications, and the idea of cycling rather than relying on any single tool forever. Dr. Jason offers a refreshingly balanced view, neither demonizing carbs nor treating medications as a permanent fix, and shares why restoring true cellular function is what allows so many people to move toward remission. It's an honest, hopeful look at a topic that affects far more people with thyroid issues than most realize, and a reminder that the body is often far more capable of healing than we've been led to believe.For full show notes, please see: https://innatopiler.com/podcasts/lowering-blood-sugar-insulin-resistance-hashimotos-dr-jason-shumard/Get ThyroLove - the first all in one bottle multi-nutrient comprehensive formula designed specifically for those with Thyroid Autoimmunity at ThyroLove.com - use code “Podcast” to get 10% off and free shipping If you are struggling to lose weight with Hashimoto’s, Inna has a 10 day plan just for you at InnaTopiler.com/jumpstartIf you need help with fatigue or brain fog with Hashimoto’s, please check out Inna’s 9 Day Exhaustion Solution at innatopiler.com/energyIf you don’t yet know your thyroid type, please be sure you sign up for Inna’s next free training at InnaTopiler.com/zoomcallFor more information about everything Hashimoto’s please visit InnaTopiler.com Get ThyroLove - use code “Podcast” to get 10% off and free shipping 

If you have Hashimoto’s and still feel exhausted, inflamed, foggy, or “not yourself” even after trying many things, this episode is a must-listen.I’m joined again by Dr. Kasia Kines, one of the leading voices in Epstein-Barr Virus research and education, to talk about the inte- connection between EBV and Hashimoto’sEven if you have heard about this connection, this episode goes much deeper into what you need to know.• Why EBV can reactivate years later• The symptoms most people miss• The labs that actually important• Why your doctor may not be testing correctly• The connection between EBV and Hashimoto’s• Mold, stress, WiFi, nutrient deficiencies, and other hidden triggers• What helps the body calm chronic reactivationThere is a lot in this conversation that people with Hashimoto’s are rarely told, especially when it comes to why symptoms can continue even when thyroid labs start to look better.For full show notes, please see:https://innatopiler.com/podcasts/why-ebv-keeps-reactivating-in-hashimotos-with-dr-kasia-kines/Get ThyroLove - the first all in one bottle multi-nutrient comprehensive formula designed specifically for those with Thyroid Autoimmunity at ThyroLove.com - use code “Podcast” to get 10% off and free shipping If you are struggling to lose weight with Hashimoto’s, Inna has a 10 day plan just for you at InnaTopiler.com/jumpstartIf you need help with fatigue or brain fog with Hashimoto’s, please check out Inna’s 9 Day Exhaustion Solution at innatopiler.com/energyIf you don’t yet know your thyroid type, please be sure you sign up for Inna’s next free training at InnaTopiler.com/zoomcallFor more information about everything Hashimoto’s please visit InnaTopiler.com Get ThyroLove - use code “Podcast” to get 10% off and free shipping 

So many people with Hashimoto’s are shopping at health food stores, choosing organic, avoiding processed foods, and making what they believe are healthier choices.But what if some of those “healthy” foods are not as clean as they seem?In this episode, Inna is joined by Jen Smiley, founder of the Read the Labels movement, to uncover what is really hiding in everyday foods. They break down how marketing can be misleading, why ingredient quality matters just as much as the type of food you are eating, and how hidden additives can drive inflammation.This conversation expands beyond food alone and looks at how everyday choices, from cookware to food sourcing, can either support or hinder your thyroid and immune health.For full show notes, please see:https://innatopiler.com/podcasts/whats-really-in-your-healthy-food-with-jen-smiley/Get ThyroLove - the first all in one bottle multi-nutrient comprehensive formula designed specifically for those with Thyroid Autoimmunity at ThyroLove.com - use code “Podcast” to get 10% off and free shipping If you are struggling to lose weight with Hashimoto’s, Inna has a 10 day plan just for you at InnaTopiler.com/jumpstartIf you need help with fatigue or brain fog with Hashimoto’s, please check out Inna’s 9 Day Exhaustion Solution at innatopiler.com/energyIf you don’t yet know your thyroid type, please be sure you sign up for Inna’s next free training at InnaTopiler.com/zoomcallFor more information about everything Hashimoto’s please visit InnaTopiler.com Get ThyroLove - use code “Podcast” to get 10% off and free shipping 

There’s something I started noticing over this past year that I didn’t expect.Not just how people with thyroid issues felt physically… but how they felt about what they were doing.Because with Hashimoto’s, it’s usually not about not knowing what to do. It’s what happens a few days or a few weeks in, when everything starts to feel like a lot and things slowly fall off.In this episode, I’m breaking down why that happens, what actually makes something easier to stay consistent with, and what I’ve seen change when that piece is finally in place.Because there’s a difference between something being “good for you”… and something that actually fits into your life in a way that you keep doing it.If you’ve been feeling a little stop-and-start with your routine, or like things just don’t stay consistent the way you want them to, this will shift how you think about it.For full show notes, please see:https://innatopiler.com/podcasts/thyroid-healing-hashimotos/Get ThyroLove - the first all in one bottle multi-nutrient comprehensive formula designed specifically for those with Thyroid Autoimmunity at ThyroLove.com - use code “Podcast” to get 10% off and free shipping If you are struggling to lose weight with Hashimoto’s, Inna has a 10 day plan just for you at InnaTopiler.com/jumpstartIf you need help with fatigue or brain fog with Hashimoto’s, please check out Inna’s 9 Day Exhaustion Solution at innatopiler.com/energyIf you don’t yet know your thyroid type, please be sure you sign up for Inna’s next free training atInnaTopiler.com/zoomcallFor more information about everything Hashimoto’s please visit InnaTopiler.com Get ThyroLove - use code “Podcast” to get 10% off and free shipping 

In this episode, Inna sits down with integrative cardiologist Dr. Sanjay Bhojraj to unpack everything that you need to know about cholesterol when you have a thyroid issue.These are things your doctor is likely not telling you but you NEED to know:Why cholesterol can go up quickly with thyroid changes, even without diet changesWhat a sudden increase in LDL may actually be signalingWhy a standard lipid panel often misses the full pictureWhat ApoB is and why it matters more than you thinkWhy calcium scoring can be deceivingHow inflammation changes cardiovascular risk, even with “normal” numbersWhen medication may actually be needed - it’s not what you thinkThis conversation connects a lot of dots that are usually looked at separately, helping you understand what your labs are actually telling youFor full show notes, please see:https://innatopiler.com/podcasts/cholesterol-thyroid-hashimotos-dr-sanjay-bhojraj/Get ThyroLove - the first all in one bottle multi-nutrient comprehensive formula designed specifically for those with Thyroid Autoimmunity at ThyroLove.com - use code “Podcast” to get 10% off and free shipping If you are struggling to lose weight with Hashimoto’s, Inna has a 10 day plan just for you at InnaTopiler.com/jumpstartIf you need help with fatigue or brain fog with Hashimoto’s, please check out Inna’s 9 Day Exhaustion Solution at innatopiler.com/energyIf you don’t yet know your thyroid type, please be sure you sign up for Inna’s next free training atInnaTopiler.com/zoomcallFor more information about everything Hashimoto’s please visit InnaTopiler.com Get ThyroLove - use code “Podcast” to get 10% off and free shipping 

Hashimoto’s is often treated as a thyroid problem. But in reality, it is a problem of immune confusion. When the immune system loses tolerance and begins reacting to the body’s own tissues, inflammation and symptoms follow.In this conversation, Inna Topiler sits down with Michael Antonelli to explore a fascinating area of emerging research that may change how we think about immune regulation in Hashimoto’s. Instead of trying to stimulate or suppress the immune system, the focus shifts to something much more intelligent, helping the immune system regain balance and recognize what truly belongs in the body.Michael shares research on human-equivalent lactoferrin, a bioactive compound inspired by breast milk that appears to play a role in gut signaling, iron balance, and immune communication. The science behind it opens an interesting window into how the gut and immune system interact, and why restoring the right signals may be just as important as removing triggers.This conversation brings together gut health, immune regulation, and the deeper idea of helping the body restore its own internal intelligence. When the immune system learns to communicate clearly again, many of the patterns behind autoimmune symptoms begin to make more sense.You can see much more about Human Mimicking Lactoferrin here and use code “RESTORE” to get 10% off.For full show notes, please see:https://innatopiler.com/podcasts/balancing-immune-system-hashimotos-michael-antonelli/Get ThyroLove - the first all in one bottle multi-nutrient comprehensive formula designed specifically for those with Thyroid Autoimmunity at ThyroLove.com - use code “Podcast” to get 10% off and free shipping If you are struggling to lose weight with Hashimoto’s, Inna has a 10 day plan just for you at InnaTopiler.com/jumpstartIf you need help with fatigue or brain fog with Hashimoto’s, please check out Inna’s 9 Day Exhaustion Solution at innatopiler.com/energyIf you don’t yet know your thyroid type, please be sure you sign up for Inna’s next free training at InnaTopiler.com/zoomcallFor more information about everything Hashimoto’s please visit InnaTopiler.com Get ThyroLove - use code “Podcast” to get 10% off and free shipping 

In this episode, I am joined by Dr. Shivani Gupta to talk about Ayurveda, inflammation, and what this 5,000 year old system of medicine reveals about Hashimoto’s and thyroid health.There are moments in clinical practice where you realize the conversation around inflammation has been too narrow. We measure antibodies. We look at gut markers. We talk about nutrients. But there is another layer that often gets overlooked, the way daily rhythm and nervous system patterns shape immune behavior.Ayurveda does not separate digestion from stress or stress from immune signaling. It looks at the entire terrain. It asks how your constitution influences the way you burn through energy, hold onto it, or stagnate it. It challenges the idea that everyone should follow the same rules for healing.What I appreciate about this discussion is that it does not add complexity. It adds perspective. It reframes inflammation as something influenced by pace, timing, and consistency, not just inputs.If you have ever felt like you were doing everything on paper and still missing something deeper, this episode will help you see your thyroid in a more integrated way.For full show notes, please see:https://innatopiler.com/podcasts/ayurveda-inflammation-hashimotos-thyroid-dr-shivani-gupta/Get ThyroLove - the first all in one bottle multi-nutrient comprehensive formula designed specifically for those with Thyroid Autoimmunity at ThyroLove.com - use code “Podcast” to get 10% off and free shipping If you are struggling to lose weight with Hashimoto’s, Inna has a 10 day plan just for you at InnaTopiler.com/jumpstartIf you need help with fatigue or brain fog with Hashimoto’s, please check out Inna’s 9 Day Exhaustion Solution at innatopiler.com/energyIf you don’t yet know your thyroid type, please be sure you sign up for Inna’s next free training at InnaTopiler.com/zoomcallFor more information about everything Hashimoto’s please visit InnaTopiler.com Get ThyroLove - use code “Podcast” to get 10% off and free shipping 

You can follow a solid protocol for Hashimoto’s and still feel like something is not fully clicking.Your labs may look better. Your inflammation markers may improve. But your body still feels braced, wired, or unable to truly settle.In this episode, Inna sits down with Dr. Karyn Shanks to talk about a layer of healing that rarely gets addressed, hypervigilance.We explore how overfunctioning, overworking, and constantly being on can become a stress pattern that keeps cortisol elevated and the immune system reactive. Not because you are failing, but because your nervous system has learned to stay alert.You will see how sensations like throat tightness, chest constriction, or a constant sense of urgency are not random. We talk about the difference between a sensation and the story your brain builds around it, and why giving a feeling space for even ninety seconds can shift your physiology.We also discuss trauma informed care, why safety has to come before deeper healing, and how overdoing can be tied to worthiness and performance rather than true resilience.Healing is not only biochemical. It is also nervous system regulation, emotional awareness, and learning when to say yes and when to say no.This episode will help you look at your thyroid healing through a wider lens and understand what might still be keeping your body on guard.For full show notes, please see:https://innatopiler.com/podcasts/hashimotos-protocol-karyn-shanks/Get ThyroLove - the first all in one bottle multi-nutrient comprehensive formula designed specifically for those with Thyroid Autoimmunity at ThyroLove.com - use code “Podcast” to get 10% off and free shipping If you are struggling to lose weight with Hashimoto’s, Inna has a 10 day plan just for you at InnaTopiler.com/jumpstartIf you need help with fatigue or brain fog with Hashimoto’s, please check out Inna’s 9 Day Exhaustion Solution at innatopiler.com/energyIf you don’t yet know your thyroid type, please be sure you sign up for Inna’s next free training at InnaTopiler.com/zoomcallFor more information about everything Hashimoto’s please visit InnaTopiler.com Get ThyroLove - use code “Podcast” to get 10% off and free shipping 

There is a point many people with Hashimoto’s reach where exercise becomes a constant question mark. You are moving your body, trying to be consistent, and still wondering if you are doing too much, not enough, or the wrong kind altogether.This conversation with Inna Topiler and Angela Brown sits right inside that uncertainty. The space between being told to push harder and starting to wonder if pushing harder is exactly why your body feels the way it does. They talk about why exercise can feel so confusing with Hashimoto’s and why so many people end up second-guessing themselves instead of trusting what they are noticing.As the conversation unfolds, you will start to see how different types of exercise affect the Hashimoto’s body in very different ways. You will hear how to think about recovery, fatigue, inflammation, and weight changes together, instead of as separate problems, and why what happens after your workout often matters more than how you feel during it.You will also see exactly how to tell whether the exercise you are doing is actually working for you, when it may be time to change your approach, and how to start making those decisions without swinging between doing nothing and doing too much. For full show notes, please see:https://innatopiler.com/podcasts/exercise-hashimotos-fatigue-weight-gain-angela-brown/Get ThyroLove - the first all in one bottle multi-nutrient comprehensive formula designed specifically for those with Thyroid Autoimmunity at ThyroLove.com - use code “Podcast” to get 10% off and free shipping For more information about everything Hashimoto’s please visit InnaTopiler.comIf you are struggling to lose weight with Hashimoto’s, Inna has a 10 day plan just for you at InnaTopiler.com/jumpstartIf you need help with fatigue or brain fog with Hashimoto’s, please check out Inna’s 9 Day Exhaustion Solution at innatopiler.com/energyIf you don’t yet know your thyroid type, please be sure you sign up for Inna’s next free training atInnaTopiler.com/zoomcall Get ThyroLove - use code “Podcast” to get 10% off and free shipping 

Cooking with Hashimoto’s often becomes the hardest place to stay consistent, not because you do not know what foods are supportive, but because figuring out how to cook in real life takes energy, planning, and the right setup.In this conversation Inna and Hypothyroid Chef Ginny Mahar talk about how to actually cook in a way that supports your body without turning food into another source of stress. You will see how anti inflammatory eating looks in real life, why personalization matters, and how to think about meal prep, leftovers, freezing, and cooking methods in a way that preserves energy instead of draining it.The episode also goes beyond food and into the kitchen itself, from pots and pans to utensils, cutting boards, and food storage. If cooking with Hashimoto’s has felt overwhelming or unrealistic, this conversation will help it feel simpler, calmer, and more doable.For full show notes, please see:https://innatopiler.com/podcasts/cook-hashimotos-hypothyroid-chef-ginny-mahar/Get ThyroLove - the first all in one bottle multi-nutrient comprehensive formula designed specifically for those with Thyroid Autoimmunity at ThyroLove.com - use code “Podcast” to get 10% off and free shipping For more information about everything Hashimoto’s please visit InnaTopiler.comIf you are struggling to lose weight with Hashimoto’s, Inna has a 10 day plan just for you at InnaTopiler.com/jumpstartIf you need help with fatigue or brain fog with Hashimoto’s, please check out Inna’s 9 Day Exhaustion Solution at innatopiler.com/energyIf you don’t yet know your thyroid type, please be sure you sign up for Inna’s next free training at InnaTopiler.com/zoomcall Get ThyroLove - use code “Podcast” to get 10% off and free shipping