Grossinger's has everything, Part II

Guests Christopher Janney Rachel Hazes Matthew Gottesman Clara Shim David Mack Refrences Christopher Janning website: https://www.janneysound.com/ Atlas Obscura - https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/reach-new-york Bird sounds sampled from - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjwxE_kI5wA Vintage video - https://viewing.nyc/reach-a-playable-urban-musical-instrument-at-herald-square-subway-station/ Sound stair - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzon5zB1sAI CBS sunday morning - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqHmtFY4-Fc Boston children's hospital https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5tubX5iXCw Janney's house - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBhTDfo6wxI What is a heart? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw3AtnMg1xo Sound from YouTube channel bridge and tunnel club https://alum.mit.edu/slice/video-urban-musical-instrument-goes-school Sounds from https://www.janneysound.com/project/passing-light-san-antonio-tx/ Synesthesia explained - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkRbebvoYqI Famous artist's with synestosia http://mentalfloss.com/article/88417/12-famous-artists-synesthesia

The Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire, in 1911, was one of the deadliest industrial disasters in US history. But what you may not realize is that this was one of the events that pushed states to start to require more safety measures in the workplace.GUESTS IN ORDERLULU LOLOArtist and activistSee more of Lulu’s work on her websiteRUTH SERGELArtist and agitatorGET INVOLVEDRemember the Triangle CoalitionThe Chalk ProjectCheck your brands factory conditions at Good on You and Ethical Fashion GuideREFERENCEShttps://www.osha.gov/oas/trianglefactoryfire.html photoshttp://troytaylorbooks.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-triangle-fire.html Graphic photoshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_Building_(Manhattan) Wikihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN8cjH5qfRk Overview of the firehttps://macaulay.cuny.edu/seminars/wills08/articles/j/a/c/Jacob_Kline_66b7.html Jacob Klinehttps://www.history.com/topics/early-20th-century-us/triangle-shirtwaist-fire Mentions refusal of owners to install sprinklershttps://www.firehouse.com/home/news/10517122/triangle-the-fire-that-changed-america - talks about corruptionhttps://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-the-triangle-shirtwai_b_5029158 - reform after the fireWhy its hard to pay a living wage: https://www.vox.com/2018/2/27/17016704/living-wage-clothing-factorieshttps://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/shirtwaist-kings/Audio retelling of fire: https://www.wnyc.org/story/119940-listen-wnyc-archives-triangle-shirtwaist-fire/Industrial disaster list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_industrial_disastershttps://americanhistory.si.edu/blog/triangleWhat is a shirtwaist: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/triangle-fire-what-shirtwaist/Fire escape taking 3 hours: https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjditC4mYfjAhVmiOAKHbj6DUAQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgvshp.org%2Fblog%2F2011%2F03%2F02%2Fremembering-the-triangle-fire%2F&psig=AOvVaw1O3B2IpKVDT16VzO_HoEZ1&ust=1561640221999361https://historycollection.co/arson-accident-triangle-shirtwaist-factory-fire/The strike and conditions that improved with union involvement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_shirtwaist_strike_of_1909Song http://open-archive.rememberthetrianglefire.org/triangle-song/http://open-archive.rememberthetrianglefire.org/angels-in-the-sky/Diagram of the building: http://trianglefire.ilr.cornell.edu/supplemental/3Dmodel.htmlPapers talking about stair deficiencies: https://gvshp.org/blog/2011/03/02/remembering-the-triangle-fire/Map of names: http://rememberthetrianglefire.org/the-names/Rana plaza: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/style/survivors-of-rana-plaza-disaster.htmlhttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-20522593 - Dhaka padlocking exitshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Dhaka_garment_factory_fire#cite_note-21 2012 Its major clients include Walmart, Carrefour and IKEA.[10]Rana plaza collapse: https://www.racked.com/2018/4/13/17230770/rana-plaza-collapse-anniversary-garment-workers-safetyBangladesh factory accidents: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-bangladesh-fire-factbox/factbox-major-industrial-accidents-in-bangladesh-in-recent-years-idUSKCN12C2PRhttps://cleanclothes.org/ua/2013/rana-plaza - other brands, childrens placehttps://directory.goodonyou.eco/ - brand ratingshttps://baptistworldaid.org.au/resources/2019-ethical-fashion-guide/ - brand ratings labour onlyhttps://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2014/04/26/these-retailers-involved-in-bangladesh-factory-disaster-have-yet-to-compensate-victims/#3d383f99211b - joe freshhttps://www.greenamerica.org/green-purchasing-choose-fair-labor/tell-samsung/what-you-can-do-about-sweatshops - what you can do about sweatshops

Part 2 of “Grossinger’s has everything” goes into the demise of not just the hotel but the Catskill area. This episode is part of a 2 part series; please listen to episode 1 to get the back story and see the post for images of what Grossinger’s looked like. On the find it website you can find my photos, followed by some from guest Marisa Scheinfeld (with permission) and then some from Harold. Below that you will find the image from a fellow urbex-er that was the image he sent me that made me so emotional. finditpodcast.com Facebook group Guests in order of appearance: Harold Lieberman Jennie G enthusiast and otherwise Grossinger loverFB group where we met: https://www.facebook.com/groups/grossingers/ Elaine Grossinger Etess Daughter of Harry and Jennie Grossinger. President and Chair Person of the Hotel and Lodging AssociationInterview: http://www.classiccatskills.com/stories/interview3.htmlAt 97 Street Y: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4MY3kgc7Ac Marisa Scheinfeld Author, photographer, explorer. Her book: http://www.marisascheinfeld.com/bookHer site: http://www.marisascheinfeld.comExhibits: http://www.marisascheinfeld.com/upcomingFull interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7riL4cpdW0 References Talks of restoring hotel - made it sound like they were going to be rebuilt: http://catskills.brown.edu/news/concord4.shtml - New York Times article: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/09/nyregion/dirty-dancing-resort-remake-patrick-swaze-jennifer-grey-catskills.html Record Online article: https://www.recordonline.com/news/20170801/grossingers-owner-seeks-state-aid Concord timeline: https://www.recordonline.com/article/20120212/News/202120330 Article that mentions the clean up: https://www.aarp.org/home-family/friends-family/info-2017/dirty-dancing-catskill-resort-fd.html Jennie G building getting torn down: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1956252047773966 Huf Post about urbex: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-5-rules-you-need-to-k_b_14656484 Casinos projects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLD8bGyyZXc Catskills mag project: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU5n3IfGSjg

Grossinger's was an enormous resort that provided fun year round activities for decades. Dancing, skiing, tennis, they had it all. In fact it was the resort that inspired the film Dirty Dancing. This podcast will dive into the story of Grossinger's and the people shaped by it. A couple years back I posted a video about Grossinger’s resort in the Catskills, a once enormous 1200 acre vacation resort. I never visited the resort while it was open but I was struck by its beauty in its decay. I expected the video to get some views and comments but what I didnt expect is that It would get comments that inspired me to make a podcast. What I was struck by is the emotion and detail of these comments and I wanted to share them, but YouTube wasnt the right place for this, I needed a longer format. Podcast…thats it! So here we are, this is my first ever completed episode of the Find It podcast featuring those stories and more. I welcome your comments and questions. You can comment below or email me at [email protected]. finditpodcast.com Facebook group Guests in order of appearance: Marisa Scheinfeld Author, photographer, explorer. Her book: http://www.marisascheinfeld.com/bookHer site: http://www.marisascheinfeld.comExhibits: http://www.marisascheinfeld.com/upcomingFull interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7riL4cpdW0 Elaine Grossinger Etess Daughter of Harry and Jennie Grossinger. President and Chair Person of the Hotel and Lodging AssociationInterview: http://www.classiccatskills.com/stories/interview3.htmlAt 97 Street Y: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4MY3kgc7Ac Harold Lieberman Jennie G enthusiast and otherwise Grossinger loverFB group where we met: https://www.facebook.com/groups/grossingers/ REFERENCES Historic news reel clip from 1959: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svcTYhhxaCA Barrel jumping clip 1: 1:19:48: http://www.historicfilms.com/tapes/2139_3689.00_3694.00 Barrel jumping clip 2: 1:21:13 http://www.historicfilms.com/tapes/9027_491.17_507.17 WABC - TV NY 1992 News clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUgHkLoPz48 Eddie Cantor - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANRPmTZRqkg Dick Van Dyke: 16:20 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e9EMbelLfbw&feature=youtu.be Jackie Horner Dancing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuY7b8luGwI Dirty Dancing movie trailer: https://kgmi.com/news/030030-dirty-dancing-turns-30-film-being-feted-in-nys-catskills/ The Real-Life Baby’s Name is Jackie, Not Frances: http://entertainment.time.com/2012/08/17/dirty-dancing-at-25-top-10-things-you-didnt-know-about-the-catskills-classic/slide/the-real-life-babys-name-is-jackie-not-frances/ Jackie Horner interview: https://www.recordonline.com/entertainmentlife/20170720/celebrating-most-memorable-catskills-milestone---dirty-dancing-is-30 Dirty Dancing Character Penny Was Based On A Real Person Jackie Horner: http://likedirtydancing.blogspot.com/2011/10/dirty-dancing-character-penny-was-based.html Elaine Grossinger Etess videos: https://www.google.com/search?q=elaine+grossinger+etess&oq=ealine+grossinger+e&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l2.7111j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Jennie Grossinger (1892-1972), Garment Worker to Resort Owner: https://americacomesalive.com/2012/03/28/jennie-grossinger-1892-1972-garment-worker-to-resort-owner/ Elizabeth Taylor bio: https://www.biography.com/video/elizabeth-taylor-marriage-to-eddie-fisher-9428035925 Patrick Swayze interview about Penny and Johnny: https://ew.com/article/2009/10/05/dirty-dancing-swayze-johnny-baby-or-penny/ Freddy Roman clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwvIhluYXIs https://americacomesalive.com/2012/03/28/jennie-grossinger-1892-1972-garment-worker-to-resort-owner/ Gilbert Gottfried’s Podcast: https://www.earwolf.com/show/gilbert-gottfried/ Scott’s Family Resort where Marvelous Mrs Maisel S2 was filmed: https://www.scottsfamilyresort.com/ Marvelous Mrs Maisel on Amazon Prime: https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B06X9579J1 Dirty Dancing, in case you dont know what it is: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092890/ MORE THANK YOUS My amazing and supportive partner Jay Otto. All 3 of my guests, with out you these stories cant be shared. My family and friends that support all my crazy ideas, seriously thank you!