The Principles Behind Unlearning Your Pain

In this episode, Dr. David Hanscom continues his discussion with Holt Haga, Vice President at Ahlquist and former champion skier. He discusses the equation Performance = Skill - Interference, created by David Elaimy, emphasizing the importance of acknowledging that interferences always exist in performance situations. He explains how people typically react to adversity with frustration, with David advocating for embracing adversity by asking "what can I learn right now?" He talks about the concepts of awareness and connection as key healing tools, explaining that one should avoid making major moves when experiencing interferences and instead focus on being present and connected to the moment. He also discusses not trying to force oneself into a "zone" and the importance of processing interferences to achieve better performance. Download transcript: https://backincontrol.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/11/Transcript-Interview-2-w-Holt-Haga.pdf Holt Haga is Vice President of Leasing and a partner at Ahlquist, where he oversees leasing across the company’s commercial real estate portfolio after joining as a founding member in 2018. Before building his career in commercial banking and real estate, he spent eight years on the United States Ski Team, consistently achieving top-10 world rankings and winning a U.S. national title in 2007. He graduated summa cum laude from Westminster College in Salt Lake City with a bachelor’s degree in finance and earned an MBA from Boise State University. His lifelong passion for skiing continues through his enjoyment of Idaho’s beautiful outdoors with his family. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Dr. David Hanscom talks with Holt Haga, Vice President at Ahlquist and former champion skier. His related his experience as a competitive skier from 1996, describing how he focused primarily on physical skills without addressing the mental aspects of competition for the first 10 years. He explained that while the skiing itself was enjoyable, the competitive process was extremely stressful and he struggled with inconsistent performance, missing the US ski team by fractions of points over six years. He shared how David Hanscom introduced him to David Elaimy, a former professional golfer and coach who taught him important performance principles that changed his approach to skiing and helped him overcome adversity and chronic pain at the high point of his skiing career. Download transcript: https://backincontrol.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/11/Transcript-Interview-1-w-Holt-Haga.pdf Holt Haga is Vice President of Leasing and a partner at Ahlquist, where he oversees leasing across the company’s commercial real estate portfolio after joining as a founding member in 2018. Before building his career in commercial banking and real estate, he spent eight years on the United States Ski Team, consistently achieving top-10 world rankings and winning a U.S. national title in 2007. He graduated summa cum laude from Westminster College in Salt Lake City with a bachelor’s degree in finance and earned an MBA from Boise State University. His lifelong passion for skiing continues through his enjoyment of Idaho’s beautiful outdoors with his family. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Dr. David Hanscom continues his discussion with Dr. Howard Schubiner, internist and a Clinical Professor at the Michigan State University College of Human Medicine. He discusses two approaches to treating chronic pain: pain reprocessing therapy (PRT) and emotional awareness and expression therapy (EAET). He explains that PRT helps patients shift their relationship to pain by recognizing it as brain-generated rather than physically harmful, while EAT addresses deep-seated emotions from childhood or past adverse events. He emphasizes the importance of processing emotions, particularly anger, in a safe way to facilitate healing. Howard Schubiner, MD, is an internist and a Clinical Professor at the Michigan State University College of Human Medicine. He has authored more than 150 publications in scientific journals and books. He lectures regionally, nationally, and internationally and is the author of Unlearn Your Pain: The Science of Recovering from Chronic Pain, Fatigue, Anxiety and Depression, published by The Open Field/Viking Press. Learn more at www.unlearnyourpain.com. Download transcript: https://backincontrol.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/10/Transcript-Interview-4-w-Howard-Schubiner.pdf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Dr. David Hanscom talks with Dr. Howard Schubiner, internist and a Clinical Professor at the Michigan State University College of Human Medicine. He talks about his approach to treating chronic pain. This includes explaining complex symptoms to patients, emphasizing the importance of connecting with them through empathy and understanding how the brain generates sensations. He also examines a patient's life context, and any childhood trauma, looking for specific criteria such as functional, inconsistent, and triggered symptoms. He highlights the importance of conducting a thorough workup before pursuing neuroplastic treatments, as structural issues can sometimes be missed. Howard Schubiner, MD, is an internist and a Clinical Professor at the Michigan State University College of Human Medicine. He has authored more than 150 publications in scientific journals and books. He lectures regionally, nationally, and internationally and is the author of Unlearn Your Pain: The Science of Recovering from Chronic Pain, Fatigue, Anxiety and Depression, published by The Open Field/Viking Press. Learn more at www.unlearnyourpain.com. Download transcript: https://backincontrol.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/10/Transcript-Interview-3-w-Howard-Schubiner.pdf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Dr. David Hanscom continues his discussion with Ryan Cedermark, a Certified Functional Medicine Practitioner. He explains his treatment approach and emphasizes the importance of addressing underlying physiology rather than just treating symptoms, noting that true healing comes from the body's natural capacity when given the right conditions. He discusses how his team implemented a new approach focused on safety physiology and outlines the concept of "walking into pain" as a therapeutic approach and shares how it helps patients build nervous system resilience through small wins and marginal gains. Download transcript:  https://backincontrol.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/Transcript-Interview-2-w-Ryan-Cedermark.pdf Dr. Ryan Cedermark graduated Magna Cum Laude from Life University in 2011. While in school, Dr. Cedermark enrolled in post-graduate neurology courses, earning his Diplomate in Neurology from the American Chiropractic Neurology Board in 2013. Passionate about a multidisciplinary approach to healthcare, Dr. Cedermark graduated Magna Cum Laude with his Bachelor of Science in Nursing from Duke University and completed a Family Nurse Practitioner program at Georgia State University in 2018. Dr. Cedermark currently serves as adjunct faculty at National University teaching in the Master's Program. Dr. Cedermark is also a Certified Functional Medicine Practitioner and serves on the board of the International Association of Functional Neurology and Rehabilitation (IAFNR) as well as the Medical Advisory Board for SNA Biotech. Dr. Cedermark’s multidisciplinary educational background creates a unique approach in today’s healthcare environment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Dr. David Hanscom talks with Ryan Cedermark, a Certified Functional Medicine Practitioner. He discusses his journey into functional neurology and functional medicine, explaining how he became certified through continuing education courses at Life University and the CARIC Institute. He describes how his interest in neurology developed after a professor's recommendation and led him to pursue both functional medicine and nurse practitioner certification for medication management. He explains his holistic perspective on treating chronic illness by addressing the body as a unit rather than focusing solely on symptoms. Download transcript:  https://backincontrol.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/Transcript-Interview-1-w-Ryan-Cedermark.pdf Dr. Ryan Cedermark graduated Magna Cum Laude from Life University in 2011. While in school, Dr. Cedermark enrolled in post-graduate neurology courses, earning his Diplomate in Neurology from the American Chiropractic Neurology Board in 2013. Passionate about a multidisciplinary approach to healthcare, Dr. Cedermark graduated Magna Cum Laude with his Bachelor of Science in Nursing from Duke University and completed a Family Nurse Practitioner program at Georgia State University in 2018. Dr. Cedermark currently serves as adjunct faculty at National University teaching in the Master's Program. Dr. Cedermark is also a Certified Functional Medicine Practitioner and serves on the board of the International Association of Functional Neurology and Rehabilitation (IAFNR) as well as the Medical Advisory Board for SNA Biotech. Dr. Cedermark’s multidisciplinary educational background creates a unique approach in today’s healthcare environment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Dr. David Hanscom continues his discussion about consciousness and health with Bruce Lipton. He talks about the evolutionary importance of cooperation over competition, using examples like horse colts learning community behavior to survive. He explores how human cells function as a community of 30 trillion cells coordinated by the brain, with disharmony leading to autoimmune conditions. He explains how 95% of human behavior is controlled by subconscious programs downloaded from parents and environment during early childhood, particularly through theta brain state hypnosis. He described three ways to change these programs: using self-hypnosis with earbuds during theta state while falling asleep, practicing new behaviors through repetition after age 7, and leveraging necessity as a driver for change. He discusses energy psychology and super learning techniques, explaining how people can reprogram beliefs by identifying what they struggle with and using hemisphere integration methods to download new beliefs quickly. Download transcript:  https://backincontrol.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/Transcript-Interview-6-w-Bruce-Lipton.pdf Bruce Lipton is an internationally recognized bestselling author and cellular biologist who has spent decades challenging scientific orthodoxy with a revolutionary message: genes don’t control our destiny—our beliefs and environment do. As a senior research scientist at Stanford University’s School of Medicine, his groundbreaking cloning experiments revealed the biochemical pathways by which the mind controls behavior and genetic activity, presaging today’s revolutionary field of epigenetics. Dr. Lipton’s research has been published in prestigious scientific journals including Science, Nature, Journal of Cell Biology, Developmental Biology, Biochemistry, and Experimental Cell Research. Learn more at: https://www.brucelipton.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Dr. David Hanscom talks with Dr, Bruce Lipton, a stem cell biologist and author of the best-selling book, The Biology of Belief. He discusses his perspective on the relationship between environment and genetics, emphasizing the distinction between the external environment and the internal environment controlled by the brain. He explains how the brain releases chemistry that affects cellular behavior and genetics, rather than the external environment directly influencing cells. He criticizes mainstream medicine for focusing on symptoms rather than causes. He emphasizes that connection and community empower us. Download transcript:  https://backincontrol.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/Transcript-Interview-5-w-Bruce-Lipton.pdf Bruce Lipton is an internationally recognized bestselling author and cellular biologist who has spent decades challenging scientific orthodoxy with a revolutionary message: genes don’t control our destiny—our beliefs and environment do. As a senior research scientist at Stanford University’s School of Medicine, his groundbreaking cloning experiments revealed the biochemical pathways by which the mind controls behavior and genetic activity, presaging today’s revolutionary field of epigenetics. Dr. Lipton’s research has been published in prestigious scientific journals including Science, Nature, Journal of Cell Biology, Developmental Biology, Biochemistry, and Experimental Cell Research. Learn more at: https://www.brucelipton.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Dr. David Hanscom continues his discussion with best-selling author Ken Leebow. He explains the importance of detailed AI prompting. He described how proper prompting involves providing specific information to AI, similar to giving detailed instructions to a knowledgeable person, rather than vague questions. He also discusses his approach to creating effective prompts by starting with a specific goal or subject. He talks about how AI tools like NotebookLM can transform documents into interactive mind maps, cinematic videos, and illustrations, making dense material more accessible. He used the example of how AI can help illustrate complex healing concepts. Ken Leebow is the author of the bestselling Incredible Internet book series, which helped millions of readers understand, explore, and enjoy the early online world. Today, he sees artificial intelligence as the next major technology shift, with the same life-changing potential he recognized in the Internet decades ago. In his new book, 100 Incredible Things You Can Do With AI, Ken uses a simple, practical, and fun approach to show readers how AI can help with everyday tasks, creativity, learning, travel, health, finance, business, writing, and problem-solving. At the heart of his message is the power of creating the perfect prompt — and building what he calls an “AI Dream Team,” or AI on steroids.  For more information, visit: https://www.leebow.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Dr. David Hanscom talks with best-selling author Ken Leebow.He discusses his new book 100 Incredible Things You Can Do With AI. He was formerly a CPA who transitioned into technology and internet publishing, and explains how he discovered Google's NotebookLM product, which he considers more advanced than popular AI tools like ChatGPT or Claude. He talks about how NotebookLM can process complex documents and create cinematic videos in minutes, as well as how the tool can serve as a personal "AI brain trust" by integrating expert information from various domains. He explores how AI can simplify complex information through visuals to make scientific content more accessible to readers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices