52: Joe Dunlap on Learning Without Classrooms

Bonus Episode For our first episode of 2023, we are offering a bonus episode form my interview on the Distant Job Podcast. Enjoy this opportunity to hear Adam switch from interviewer to interviewee. The Distant Job Podcast features interviews with people who are experts in remote work and management. You can find the Distant Job Podcast on all podcast players, and their show archive can be found online: https://distantjob.com/blog/podcasts/ Our first year producing The Learning Evolution Podcast has come to an end. Thank you to all who listened, interacted, provided feedback, and shared the show. On this episode, we discussed: The gaps with most modern education and learning How to make remote training effective Performance and development as a new way of education Strategies to make trainings in the workplace more effective Why mentors bring a lot of value to the workplace Tips to make engaging webinar Connect with Adam: LinkedIn Twitter YouTube Website We'd love to hear form you about what you are liking, and what you want to hear more of. connect and engage on socials or send us a message through the website. Podcast introduction music used with full permission from Anthai the Protagonist and PenSwift, 7 1 Raw records from the album Quintessentials vol. 1 - The Original Intent ft. PenSwift.

Our first year producing The Learning Evolution Podcast has come to an end. Thank you to all who listened, interacted, provided feedback, and shared the show. This final episode of the year contains my top five lessons learned in 2022. Brief 2022 recap (0:42) Lesson 1 - Put yourself out there (2:34) Lesson 2 - Gamification is more about driving behaviors than adding gaming elements (5:05) - Reference episode 25 with Yu-kai Chou Lesson 3 - L&D Teams alone do not create learning (7:45) - Reference episodes 57/58 with JD Dillon Lesson 4 - Formal learning programs are often not the best way to drive change (9:32) - Reference episode 37 with Matt Bibby Lesson 5 - Diversify your skillset to create more impact (13:23) - Reference episode 54 with Dan Gallagher We will see you with more new episodes in the new year. Enjoy your holidays and end of year wrap up. Connect with Adam: LinkedIn Twitter YouTube Website We'd love to hear form you about what you are liking, and what you want to hear more of. connect and engage on socials or send us a message through the website. Podcast introduction music used with full permission from Anthai the Protagonist and PenSwift, 7 1 Raw records from the album Quintessentials vol. 1 - The Original Intent ft. PenSwift.

JD Dillon is the founder of LearnGeek, CLO at Axonify, and the author of the recently published book The Modern Learning Ecosystem. On part 2 of my interview with JD, we discussed: How to support performers when things go wrong for them (1:52) Reinforcing what people need to know (5:51) Using learner personas to create individualized learning solutions (11:21) How to help managers create a coaching culture (14:43) Why training should be the last deliverable that L&D teams should spend their time on (18:48) How L&D teams can get past the order taker mentality (22:29) Why all training should be microlearning (25:54) How Axonify helps train and support the front line (30:36) Connect with JD: LinkedIn Modern Learning Ecosystem Book LearnGeek Axonify Connect with Adam: LinkedIn Twitter YouTube Website We'd love to hear form you about what you are liking, and what you want to hear more of. connect and engage on socials or send us a message through the website. Podcast introduction music used with full permission from Anthai the Protagonist and PenSwift, 7 1 Raw records from the album Quintessentials vol. 1 - The Original Intent ft. PenSwift.

JD Dillon is the founder of LearnGeek, CLO at Axonify, and the author of the recently published book The Modern Learning Ecosystem. On this episode, JD and I discussed: His focus on developing frontline employees (1:30) How training can appeal to people's motivators (9:30) What we can all learn from Wile E. Coyote (16:08) Why modern today is antiquated tomorrow (20:21) How we can hold people accountable for learning in the workflow (23:52) How to take advantage of the ecosystem employees are already using (28:44) Being comfortable with giving up control (33:50) Why the foundation of modern learning is shared knowledge (40:21) Tune into part 2 of this interview on our next episode! Connect with JD: LinkedIn Modern Learning Ecosystem Book LearnGeek Axonify Connect with Adam: LinkedIn Twitter YouTube Website We'd love to hear form you about what you are liking, and what you want to hear more of. connect and engage on socials or send us a message through the website. Podcast introduction music used with full permission from Anthai the Protagonist and PenSwift, 7 1 Raw records from the album Quintessentials vol. 1 - The Original Intent ft. PenSwift.

Dr. Barbara Covarrubias Venegas is a remote work & learning expert. She has more than 12 years of experience in virtual training, coaching, events, and collaboration. Barbara has founded Virtual Space Hero, a collection of ****remote work and hybrid leadership experts who work with organizations from across the globe delivering keynotes, workshops, coaching and more. On this episode, we discussed: Barbara’s extensive background in virtual training and team leadership How you can make your virtual training more engaging Making virtual training more real and applicable for participants How to deliver long-term results from your training sessions The best ways to develop trainers to deliver better virtual training Her company’s award from the Wharton Global Case Study Challenge The top things company’s struggle with in the remote and hybrid space Connect with Barbara: LinkedIn Personal Website Virtual Space Hero Connect with Adam at: LinkedIn Twitter YouTube Website We'd love to hear form you about what you are liking, and what you want to hear more of. connect and engage on socials or send us a message through the website. Podcast introduction music used with full permission from Anthai the Protagonist and PenSwift, 7 1 Raw records from the album Quintessentials vol. 1 - The Original Intent ft. PenSwift.

Hannah Frankman is the founder of Rebel Educator - a resource that provides professional development for schools to build a concept and project based learning culture, and resources for entrepreneurs starting their own schools. Hannah had a non-traditional schooling experience and is an advocate for fostering critical thinking, mental models, philosophy and argument formation with children in order to set them up for success in life. On this episode, we discussed: How Hannah’s non-traditional education experience set her up for success in her career and life (1:08) Modern alternatives to college (14:15) What Revel Educator is doing to evolve the K-12 education space (25:56) Innovators to follow in the schooling space (37:13) How transitioning teachers can become involved in the K-12 evolution (49:10) Connect with Hannah: Twitter Website Find Rebel Educator Twitter Website Connect with Adam at: LinkedIn Twitter YouTube Website We'd love to hear form you about what you are liking, and what you want to hear more of. connect and engage on socials or send us a message through the website. Podcast introduction music used with full permission from Anthai the Protagonist and PenSwift, 7 1 Raw records from the album Quintessentials vol. 1 - The Original Intent ft. PenSwift.

Dan Gallagher is responsible for line management of Quality, Talent & Development within the insurance industry in the UK. Dan marries talent development and quality processes to support his people. His diverse interests and background have lead him to incorporate unconventional L&D methods based on systems thinking and behavioral economics. On this episode, we discussed: Making Compliance Training Effective (1:06) Offer more than just courses (3:33) Linking Training and Quality Programs (9:06) Purpose Measures Methods (11:51) Systems Thinking (16:40) Avoiding the checklist mentality with quality audits (28:23) Resources to learn more about Systems Thinking (31:16) Behavioral Economics (33:17) How to use Behavioral Economics to nudge employee behavior (41:04) Motivating employees with autonomy, mastery, and purpose (47:11) Get to know Dan (52:45) Curated Systems Thinking Resources “Thinking in Systems” by Donella Meadows Russ Ackoff on YouTube Systems Thinking Network on LinkedIn Connect with Dan at**:** LinkedIn Connect with Adam at: LinkedIn Twitter YouTube Website We'd love to hear form you about what you are liking, and what you want to hear more of. connect and engage on socials or send us a message through the website.

Jerome Myers is a developer of people and places. He is the founder and Chief Inspiration Officer of DreamCatchers and The Myers Development Group. Through these entities he gets to live out his childhood dreams of helping people manifest the things they imagine and create social proof that dreams should be real. Since leaving corporate America after building a 20MM division, Jerome has become one of the most sought after thought leaders in the multifamily development space. In addition, Jerome offers leadership training to businesses that want to be the top leaders in the industry. On this episode, we discussed: Escaping the Matrix (1:19) Transitioning from corporate work to doing what fuels you (7:59) The employee dissatisfaction crises (12:00) Building trust and communication skills with leaders (17:26) Maximizing long-term impact of learning programs (27:14) Steps to take to exit the Matrix (30:12) How to reduce stress and ascend into timelessness (36:22) How employees can gain fulfillment (40:04) Connect with Jerome: LinkedIn Website Connect with Adam: LinkedIn Twitter YouTube Website We'd love to hear form you about what you are liking, and what you want to hear more of. connect and engage on socials or send us a message through the website.

Joe Dunlap is a Learning leader with over 15 years of experience and a comprehensive background in continuous learning and performance improvement, skills/capability/competency modeling, social & collaborative learning, cross-disciplinary learning teams, measures, technologies and analytics. Joe is a keynote presenter, panelist, podcast guest, author and influencer for the transition of traditional Learning and Development to transformational continuous learning and performance improvement. On this episode, we discuss: Why classrooms - both virtual and in-person -  are often the worst ways to facilitate adult learning How to provide learning and performance support solutions closer to where the work is being done How Joe has driven results in large bureaucratic organizations, including NASA and the US military Connect with Joe: LinkedIn Connect with Adam at: LinkedIn Twitter YouTube Website We'd love to hear form you about what you are liking, and what you want to hear more of. connect and engage on socials or send us a message through the website.

Kate Tonda is the Senior Director of Learning and Development at Walmart. Over the last 20 years, Kate has worked for several large companies in roles of increasing responsibility in the L&D function. Kate has managed employee training for multiple verticals and has overseen all aspects of the L&D function in her various roles. Kate’s teams have delivered innovative and award-winning learning solutions, experiential events, and have trained many thousands of employees. On this episode of The Learning Evolution Podcast, we discussed: How Kate has partnered with senior company leadership and navigated both bureaucracy and silos at the companies that she has worked for to deliver training solutions that drive real performance impact What she has done to progress her career and how she develops the L&D professionals that have worked on her team The projects and impact that have made her the most proud over her almost 20 year L&D career How she has become involved within her community and with organizations like Fierce Lab to learn and grow Connect with Kate**:** LinkedIn Connect with Adam at: LinkedIn Twitter YouTube Website We'd love to hear form you about what you are liking, and what you want to hear more of. connect and engage on socials or send us a message through the website.