Zuni Cafe and Swan Oyster's Greatness & Stella's Demise Explained

The LA Times and Bill Addsion finally published an actual critical food review, and Jordan and Max have thoughts, which leads the fellas into a Chinese restaurant episode, dissecting 88 Club, Firstborn, Henry's, Ji Rong, and Jordan's favorite New York style bites, all while teasing a recent disastrous meal by a celebrity chef.  

Jordan and Max are back to answer audience questions, and it's all new L.A. restaurants on the horizon, monk milk, Bub & Grandma's pizza, wines by the glass, Montecito dinners, Disfrutar vs. Somni, how to gain 100 pounds, LA Times vs. NY Times food coverage, the bottled & filtered water thing, a new rating system, all sorts of shrimp cocktail talk, the schelp meter, Max working for Michelin full-time, bagels, Jordan's new coffee dilemma, orange wine, Post Ranch Inn pricing, Paso Robles, Bavel no longer respects the neck, and rest in peace Dan Tana.

Jordan talks with co-hosts Brad Metzger and chef Neal Fraser of LA Chef Conference, which is taking place October 6 in Los Angeles, and features a who's who of chefs and food industry notables to not only talk the major issues of the day, but to eat like royalty. And one of those bites will be an exclusive menu item designed by Jordan with all the shrimpy help from the team at Santa Monica Seafood. Then, Jordan is joined by Gather For Good, a charity taking care of community with hospitality, who together with Guittard Chocolate and a collection of the most talented pastry chefs in town, will be serving up a wild collection of desserts at the conference. And you can enter the lottery ticketing system for LA Chef Conference by following this link.

The boys talk why San Fran classics Zuni Cafe and Swan Oyster Depot have remained instutitions for decades, while their beloved Stella West Hollywood could not follow a similar path. Plus, Jordan's exclusive menu item is coming to Los Angeles, Bill Addison needs new friends, the Benihana ass clock as been conquered, Max's Cobrasnake days, and 818 pizza disrespect.

Jordan recounts a recent trip to the Wednesday Santa Monica Farmer's Market where it was all mangoes, peaches, pork, olives, and butter. But before that, an incredibly important croissant discussion goes down, sparked from a first time trip to Petitgrain Boulangerie. Then, Air Jordan's Japanese lover and Sushi Park hater Bubbles-san talks two new and different recent sushi experiences he respected in Los Angeles.

Jordan and Max are back, answering audience questions, and it's Tesla diner talk, Michelin idiots dissing Bavel, Dunsmoor dining room rules, cooking burgers, LA's lack of Indian food and our pizza era, Summertime assclocks, seasonal cocktails, 3 star desserts, tuna salad sandwiches vs. melts, Paris for normies, and do the fellas care about Cole's French Dip's impending closure?

More wagyu cheesesteaks are coming to Los Angeles from Jerry Greenberg, so the fellas sit down with the Air Jordan all-star to discuss the who, what, where, why, and how in the world does this not help Jordan when it comes to the new delivery radiuses, but the good breaking news is well receieved nonetheless. Plus, to ketchup or not to ketchup, no cheese vs. extra cheese, the perfect Matū dessert may also be coming, and Jordan's new sandwich idea for Jerry is actually in the works.

Jordan and Max review their travels and eating over the past month, answering questions from the audience while breaking it down; and it’s all Spain, Chicago, New York, the new Max reveal, Jordan’s wedding debacle, a Sadelle’s text apology, and Los Angeles Michelin talk.

It's been one year since Steven Arroyo's passing, but his mark on Los Angeles and our food scene continue to be felt with the institutions he created, Escuela and Cobra & Matadors, still feeding Angelenos in beautiful ways. From 2021, Jordan and Steven talk the greatness and origins of the food and the man behind it all.

On this blast from the past episode, Jordan and Max travelled down to Del Mar to visit and dine with Air Jordan all-star chef William Bradley, who was fresh off being awarded his first 3 Michelin stars.