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When Kate Baer came on the show, she told me something she’d never shared publicly: she was in the middle of the most successful book tour of her life when a phone call about shin guards sent her into a full-blown panic attack.

It was the fall of 2025, and Kate, the #1 New York Times bestselling author, was standing in her San Francisco hotel room getting ready for her third event of the day. Her new book How About Now was straight KILLING it. It had sold more copies than any of her other books, and every stop on her monthlong, cross-country tour was sold out. She loved being on stage, talking about her work with the people who got her best: her readers.

Her hair was wrapped in a towel after a shower, and she was blasting her “warm-up music,” getting totally amped when her phone rang. It was her teenager, who couldn’t find their shin guards anywhere and wanted to know if Mom knew where they were. A very, very simple request.

As a mom of four, Kate has taken some version of that call a THOUSAND times. But this time…seemingly out of nowhere…her whole body seized with panic and dread. Unable to breathe, terror coursing through her body, she got off the phone with her child and texted her agent that she didn’t know if she could go on stage. She was having an inexplicable, body-gripping panic attack.

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“You just have to do the next right thing”

Desperate to get out of her doom spiral, she reached out to her bff in the whole world, Liza, explaining that she was incapable of putting her pants back on, so a reading seemed out of the question. “This is just a moment,” Liza said. “This feeling is not forever. You just have to do the next right thing.”

Kate didn’t have to go to the event, or speak on stage; at that point all she had to do was the next right thing: blow-dry her hair.

So! She blow-dried her hair. Then Liza told her that now she just needed to put on her pants, so she put on her pants. One step, one moment at a time, Kate got herself into the car and to the event, and just like every other stop on the tour, she walked on stage and carried on doing something she loved: being in community with her readers.

But San Francisco wasn’t the last of it. The panic attacks kept showing up between tour stops, right in the middle of the best month of her career.

Kate is not entirely sure what caused the panic attacks, but she shared two big (little) things that got her through that tour that she still leans on a year later.

1. Get through the next 30 seconds

From that night on, whenever anything felt too overwhelming, she leaned on Liza’s “do the next right thing” mantra, which is essentially just taking life in 30-second chunks, rather than staring down the whole big picture.

Try it! The next time something feels overwhelming, shrink it down into one, very doable step. This doesn’t have to apply to a panic attack, either. Take this show, A Little Thing That Helps, where I ask people who look like they’ve made it to tell me about a time when it looked like they had it all together, but they secretly didn’t. And! To share how they got themselves through it. I started the show because it helps me keep life-ing when I know other people struggle too, and I get to borrow their tools. But the idea of putting out a WHOLE PODCAST or YouTube show?! Way too daunting. So. I just asked one person if she would do a Substack Live with me. After that went well, and I’d proved to myself this was a semi-good idea, I did another. And another. I still don’t know if I’ll turn this whole thing into a full-blown podcast, BUT I’ve had so much fun and I’m in motion. Neither of those would be true if I’d gotten spooked by the BIG PICTURE.

Know someone who’s totally overwhelmed right now? Send this to them so they can get through the next 30 seconds. I KNOW it will help them!

2. Watch yourself like a character

One of my favorite moments in our conversation was when Kate told me that “we’re not humans having a spiritual experience. We’re spiritual beings having a human experience.” Friends, this line GAVE ME GOOD CHILLS. In that hotel room, Kate kept telling herself that what she was feeling wasn’t normal. “But it is,” she told me. “It’s a very human emotion to feel overwhelmed in that particular set of circumstances.” Remembering that she’s a spiritual being having a human experience helps her stop fighting the panic and start watching it instead.

So now, when the panic hits, she tries to step outside of it. “I kind of float above my body and take on a sense of curiosity and think, what is this character going to do?” she told me. “What is this spiritual being having a human experience going to do in this human world that she can’t control? I can’t control the fact that I’m having panic attacks between the tour stops. So what is she going to do to cope with this? Is she going to walk around the hotel and count by tens? Is she going to do what I did in San Francisco and take everything in 30-second increments?”

Try it! Next time you’re spiraling, narrate yourself in the third person, going in with curiosity rather than judgment. Say something like, “Okay, she’s overwhelmed. What’s she going to try next that might help a little?”

So when it all feels like too much, think of Kate in that San Francisco hotel room. She didn’t have to beat the panic, or the tour, or even the night. She just had to blow-dry her hair. Then put on her pants. And then she walked on stage.

Testify

What could you accomplish if all you needed to do was “the next right thing”?

What goal would you finally start? What slump would you climb out of? If you knew you only had to take one tiny step in the right direction, what step would you take? I’d love to hear in the comments! I read every single one. That’s the T$ guarantee.

P.S.

If you haven’t read Kate’s How About Now yet, consider this your sign. It’s the book that packed every room on that tour, and now you know what it took to get her on those stages. I think it will have special meaning for you :)



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