786. IFS, Spirituality, and Psychological Healing - With Dr. Dick Schwartz

In this episode, I speak with executive coach Lise Bruynooghe about what coaching really is, why the profession is often misunderstood, and how coaches can thrive in a world increasingly shaped by artificial intelligence. Drawing on her work across leadership, organisational development, and cross-cultural coaching, Lise argues that coaching is far more than a collection of techniques—it's a uniquely human way of helping people think, learn, and grow. Together, we explore what distinguishes skilful coaching from simply asking good questions, discussing the importance of presence, curiosity, and genuine partnership in creating meaningful change. Lise challenges the tendency for coaches to become attached to particular methods or identities, suggesting that the most effective practitioners adapt to the person in front of them rather than relying on a fixed model. Mark also raises the question of whether coaching itself needs a new language, reflecting on why the profession is still so difficult for many people to understand. The conversation also explores the opportunities and challenges of AI, asking what technology can already do well, what remains uniquely human, and how coaches can continue to offer value as intelligent systems become more capable. Rather than seeing AI as a threat, Lise invites coaches to focus on the qualities that cannot easily be automated: deep listening, authentic connection, and the ability to navigate the complexity of being human. ---------------------------------------------- Become a certified embodiment coach. Coach beyond mere words and support clients to transform their lives: https://embodimentunlimited.com/cec/ ----------------------------------------------- Check out our YouTube channel for more coaching tips and our Podcast channel for full episode videos

In this episode, I speak with Dr Dick Schwartz, founder of Internal Family Systems (IFS), about the remarkable rise of one of the world's fastest-growing therapeutic approaches and the questions that come with its growing influence. Drawing on decades of clinical work and recent developments in the model, Dick reflects on how IFS has evolved beyond psychotherapy to embrace spirituality, leadership, and personal transformation. Together, we explore the foundations of IFS, the nature of the Self, and why relating compassionately to our inner parts can create profound psychological change. Dick discusses the spiritual dimensions of the work that he kept largely private for many years, explaining why he now feels it's important to speak openly about them. Mark brings his trademark curiosity and scepticism to the conversation, asking whether the growing popularity of IFS risks creating dogma, where healthy leadership ends and cult dynamics begin, and how practitioners can stay grounded as the model continues to expand. The conversation also explores trauma, parenting, psychedelics, embodiment, and the future of mental health, examining how IFS is being applied far beyond the therapy room. Whether you're a coach, therapist, or simply interested in understanding yourself more deeply, this episode offers a thoughtful look at one of the most influential psychological models of our time, and the opportunities and challenges that come with its rapid growth. ----------------------------------------------- Become a certified embodiment coach. Coach beyond mere words and support clients to transform their lives: https://embodimentunlimited.com/cec/ ----------------------------------------------- Check out our YouTube channel for more coaching tips and our Podcast channel for full episode videos

In this episode, I speak with Dr Helen Machen-Pearce about the art of embodied group facilitation and why working with a group requires a very different set of skills from one-to-one coaching. Drawing on years of experience facilitating groups, we explore what happens when the focus shifts from an individual client to the complex dynamics of an entire group, including the importance of reading the room, tracking the group nervous system, and adapting in real time. Together, we examine the practical skills that distinguish effective group facilitation, from giving clear instructions and managing time to creating flow, setting boundaries, and ensuring that one participant doesn't dominate the experience of everyone else. We discuss the challenge of balancing individual needs with the needs of the group, as well as the cultural differences that influence who speaks, who takes space, and how people participate. Mark shares lessons from facilitating groups of anything from a handful of people to hundreds, while Helen reflects on the subtle skills involved in sensing and responding to group dynamics. The conversation also explores why group work can be such powerful training for coaches, developing skills in embodied leadership, intuition, regulation, and the ability to quickly sense what's happening in a room. We discuss the value of coaches experiencing group facilitation themselves, why working with diverse groups accelerates learning, and the particular challenges of bringing embodied group work online. Whether you're an experienced facilitator or a coach considering making the move into group work, this episode offers practical insights into how to create groups that are engaging, well-held, and genuinely transformative. ---------------------------------------------- Become a certified embodiment coach. Coach beyond mere words and support clients to transform their lives: https://embodimentunlimited.com/cec/ ----------------------------------------------- Check out our YouTube channel for more coaching tips and our Podcast channel for full episode videos

In this episode, I speak with parenting coach and documentary maker Patrick Ney about why modern parenting has become so challenging, and what it reveals about human psychology far beyond family life. Drawing on his experience of working with more than 165,000 parents around the world, Patrick explores how our own childhood experiences quietly shape the way we parent, relate to others, and show up as coaches and helping professionals. Together, we examine the powerful influence of attachment, emotional development, and inherited family patterns, discussing why many of the struggles we experience as adults begin long before we're aware of them. Patrick argues that parenting is less about finding the perfect techniques and more about understanding ourselves, questioning the assumptions we inherited, and developing the emotional awareness to respond rather than react. The conversation also explores why modern parents are under unprecedented pressure, the myths of the "perfect childhood," and how unresolved experiences continue to influence our relationships, leadership, and coaching. Whether you're raising children or not, this episode offers valuable insights into the formative experiences that shape every client, helping coaches better understand the roots of behaviour, build deeper compassion, and support lasting change. ----------------------------------------------- Become a certified embodiment coach. Coach beyond mere words and support clients to transform their lives: https://embodimentunlimited.com/cec/ ----------------------------------------------- Check out our YouTube channel for more coaching tips and our Podcast channel for full episode videos

In this episode, I speak with breathwork researcher and educator Richard Blake about what the evidence actually says regarding breathwork, nervous system regulation, and how coaches can use breathing practices safely and effectively. Drawing on both scientific research and practical experience, Richard separates hype from evidence and explores which techniques are supported by the strongest research. We discuss the different categories of breathwork, from calming, slower-paced breathing techniques to more activating practices, examining when each is appropriate and the physiological mechanisms behind their effects. Richard explains what current research tells us about stress, anxiety, emotional regulation, focus, and performance, while also highlighting the limitations of the evidence and the claims that often go beyond what the science can support. The conversation explores how coaches can integrate simple breathing practices into their sessions without becoming breathwork specialists, the importance of understanding contraindications and individual differences, and why matching the right technique to the client's needs matters more than following trends. We also discuss the physiological sigh, coherent breathing, carbon dioxide tolerance, and the relationship between breathing patterns, the nervous system, and emotional states. Along the way, we examine common misconceptions about breathwork, the growing research base in the field, critical thinking in wellbeing practices, and why an evidence-informed approach allows coaches to use breathwork with greater confidence, clarity, and care. ---------------------------------------------- Become a certified embodiment coach. Coach beyond mere words and support clients to transform their lives: https://embodimentunlimited.com/cec/ ----------------------------------------------- Check out our YouTube channel for more coaching tips and our Podcast channel for full episode videos

In this episode, I speak with writer, researcher, and philosopher Brendan Graham Dempsey about the modern meaning crisis, why so many people feel disconnected from purpose and belonging, and what this means for coaches, leaders, and anyone supporting human development. Drawing on philosophy, psychology, history, and his work on metamodernism, Brendan explores how we arrived at this cultural moment—and how we might move beyond it. We discuss why questions of meaning increasingly show up in coaching conversations, even when clients initially present with goals around performance, relationships, or career. Brendan explains how the decline of shared cultural narratives has left many people searching for direction, and why coaches need to understand the wider social and philosophical context shaping their clients' lives. The conversation explores metamodernism as an emerging response to the limitations of both modern certainty and postmodern cynicism, offering a way of holding complexity without collapsing into either naïve optimism or nihilism. We discuss how coaches can help clients navigate uncertainty, cultivate purpose without imposing answers, and support meaningful growth in an increasingly fragmented world. Along the way, we explore identity, embodiment, belonging, political polarisation, social media, spirituality, and the balance between scepticism and hope. Ultimately, this episode is an invitation to think more deeply about what transformation really means—and why coaching may be as much about helping people orient themselves in a changing world as it is about achieving goals. ---------------------------------------------- Become a certified embodiment coach. Coach beyond mere words and support clients to transform their lives: https://embodimentunlimited.com/cec/ ----------------------------------------------- Check out our YouTube channel for more coaching tips and our Podcast channel for full episode videos

In this episode, I speak with Dr Helen Machen-Pearce about the role of creativity in coaching, and why it may be one of the most overlooked skills in helping people change. Drawing on our experience of training somatic coaches, we explore what creativity really means, why it isn't limited to artistic talent, and how coaches can cultivate it without losing structure or rigour. Together, we examine the tension between following established methods and developing your own style, discussing whether creativity is something we're born with or something that emerges through disciplined practice. We explore how movement, play, curiosity, and experimentation can unlock fresh perspectives for both coach and client, while also considering the risks of becoming either too formulaic or creative for creativity's sake. Rather than seeing technique and spontaneity as opposites, we argue that the most effective coaching combines both. The conversation also explores practical ways to develop creative confidence, the influence of culture and training on how we approach coaching, and why the best coaches adapt their methods to the individual rather than relying on a fixed formula. Whether you're looking to bring more originality into your coaching or simply avoid becoming stuck in familiar patterns, this episode offers practical insights into coaching that is both skilful and genuinely alive.   ---------------------------------------------- Become a certified embodiment coach. Coach beyond mere words and support clients to transform their lives: https://embodimentunlimited.com/cec/ ----------------------------------------------- Check out our YouTube channel for more coaching tips and our Podcast channel for full episode videos

In this episode, I speak with Helen Machen-Pearce about one of the most important questions in coaching: what are the biggest mistakes coaches make, and how can they avoid them? Drawing on more than 15 years of training and assessing embodiment coaches, we explore the common patterns that hold coaches back, from relying too heavily on techniques to confusing confidence with competence. Together, we examine the balance between structure and flexibility, discussing why great coaching isn't about following rigid formulas or believing that "anything goes." Instead, we explore the principles that underpin skilful practice, including the importance of presence, ethical awareness, trauma sensitivity, and learning to adapt to the person in front of you rather than forcing a preferred method. The conversation also explores how coaches develop through practice, feedback, and supervision, why mistakes are an inevitable part of becoming more effective, and how humility and curiosity create better outcomes than perfectionism. Whether you're a new coach or an experienced practitioner, this episode offers practical insights into building sound judgement, avoiding common pitfalls, and developing coaching that is both embodied and genuinely impactful. ----------------------------------------------- Become a certified embodiment coach. Coach beyond mere words and support clients to transform their lives: https://embodimentunlimited.com/cec/ ----------------------------------------------- Check out our YouTube channel for more coaching tips and our Podcast channel for full episode videos

In this episode, I speak with relationship educator Harry Pitcher, creator of the She's Not Crazy series, about the biology of relationships and why understanding women's hormonal cycles can transform the way we connect with one another. Drawing on years of research into neuroscience, endocrinology, and attachment, Harry explains why many relationship struggles are less about personality or communication skills than they are about biology that is rarely understood or talked about. We explore what this means for coaches, therapists, and anyone working with relationships, examining how hormones influence behaviour, emotional regulation, stress responses, and connection. Harry challenges the tendency to dismiss women's experiences as irrational, arguing instead that many patterns make perfect sense when viewed through the lens of physiology. Together, we discuss why a more embodied understanding of biology can replace blame with compassion and curiosity. The conversation also explores the differences between male and female nervous systems, the impact of menstrual cycles, pregnancy, and menopause on relationships, and why men often struggle to interpret changes that are deeply rooted in hormonal shifts rather than conscious choice. Mark brings both humour and scepticism to the discussion, questioning where biology ends and culture begins, and how coaches can work with these ideas without reducing people to hormones alone. Along the way, we discuss emotional regulation, attachment, communication, the importance of educating both men and women about hormonal health, and why understanding the body's rhythms may be one of the most practical—and overlooked—ways to create healthier relationships, more effective coaching, and deeper empathy. ----------------------------------------------- Become a certified embodiment coach. Coach beyond mere words and support clients to transform their lives: https://embodimentunlimited.com/cec/ ----------------------------------------------- Check out our YouTube channel for more coaching tips and our Podcast channel for full episode videos

In this episode, I speak with Zen teacher, poet, and mindfulness app co-founder Henry Shukman about awakening, trauma, and the relationship between meditation and embodiment. Drawing on his own journey—from a childhood marked by chronic illness and emotional pain to a profound spontaneous awakening that led him to decades of Zen practice—Henry shares why genuine spiritual development is about becoming more fully human, not escaping our experience. We explore what this means for coaches and therapists, examining the relationship between awakening and psychological healing. Henry reflects on why insight alone is rarely enough, how trauma shapes the body long after the mind has moved on, and why contemplative practice and therapeutic work are most powerful when they support rather than replace one another. Together, we discuss the tension between transcendence and embodiment, the limits of spiritual bypassing, and the importance of integrating profound states into everyday life. The conversation also explores the role of poetry as a language for experiences that cannot easily be explained, the wisdom that lives beneath conceptual thinking, and what it means to trust a deeper intelligence than the analytical mind. Mark brings both curiosity and healthy scepticism to the discussion, questioning how non-dual insight relates to ordinary human struggles and how coaches can distinguish genuine presence from spiritual abstraction. Along the way, we discuss Zen practice, nervous system healing, the body's innate wisdom, the challenges of integrating transformative experiences, and why the deepest forms of awakening may not take us away from our humanity, but return us to it with greater compassion, intimacy, and freedom. ----------------------------------------------- Become a certified embodiment coach. Coach beyond mere words and support clients to transform their lives: https://embodimentunlimited.com/cec/ ----------------------------------------------- Check out our YouTube channel for more coaching tips and our Podcast channel for full episode videos