AI, SaaS and the Next Private Markets Shakeout

This week on Swimming with Allocators, returning guest Chris Schelling of Aksia joins Earnest Sweat and Alexa Binns to unpack how AI, private markets, and the wealth channel are evolving. They discuss where AI may already be in bubble territory, how it’s reshaping SaaS, services, and investment processes (including AI “agents” on investment committees), and why some SaaS and low-value information services are most at risk. Chris explains Aksia research-driven approach across private equity, private credit, real assets, and hedge funds, and shares why he’s skeptical of layered SPV “sandwiches” and headline-driven fear around private credit. The conversation explores the democratization of alternatives for wealthy clients, the role of content as a strategic edge for allocators, challenges in structuring venture access products, and why early-stage technical venture and quantum computing are compelling. Chris closes with advice for newer professionals: in a world of AI tools, differentiated relationships, networks, and deep domain expertise matter more than ever. Also, Nick Cassin explains how Sidley’s secondary practice spans multiple asset classes and deal types, highlights the growing role of secondaries in venture (including GP‑leds and LP trades), and shares how Sidley’s breadth, commercial mindset, and experience help clients navigate complex liquidity and continuation vehicle structures. Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Chris Schelling Returns & Aksia Career Move (0:13) Why To Be Skeptical of AI Valuations & Bubbles (2:26) How AI Is Reshaping SaaS, Services, and Credit (6:48) Using AI for Diligence, Memos, and Investment Committees (11:29) Behavioral Coaching and Training Analysts With AI (15:06) SPVs, SPV “Sandwiches,” and 2008-Style Layering Risk (19:58) Checklist Ideas for Evaluating SPVs and Access Claims (29:24) How Mega RIAs Are Building Private Markets Platforms (36:38) Strategic vs Tactical Allocations Across Private Markets (41:38) Product Diversity Needed Across RIAs and Client Segments (44:08) Segmenting Venture: Seed, Growth, and Late Stage Dynamics (47:52) Crystal Ball on Venture, Deep Tech, and Quantum Computing (49:39) Skills for Young Investors: Networks, Relationships, and Domain Expertise (54:22) Where To Read Chris’s Research and Writing (55:13) Aksia is a global private markets investment advisory and research platform with deep expertise across private equity, private credit, real assets, and hedge funds. The firm advises institutional investors globally and also manages discretionary capital through customized funds-of-one, co-investment vehicles, fund-of-funds, and wealth-oriented private markets solutions. Aksia is known for its open architecture model, broad GP relationships, and rigorous diligence culture across alternative assets. Sidley Austin LLP is a premier global law firm with a dedicated Venture Funds practice, advising top venture capital firms, institutional investors, and private equity sponsors on fund formation, investment structuring, and regulatory compliance. With deep expertise across private markets, Sidley provides strategic legal counsel to help funds scale effectively. Learn more at sidley.com. Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies.  The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on Swimming with Allocators, Earnest and Alexa welcome Senia Rapisarda of HarbourVest, who walks through her journey from Italy and Wall Street to leading venture and growth efforts in Canada, first at BDC and now as a major LP. She explains how Canada’s venture ecosystem has evolved, the creation and impact of the Venture Capital Action Plan, and why innovation capital is critical to national sovereignty. The conversation covers what makes great Canadian fund managers (curiosity, humility, team-building, and agility), how emerging managers should approach institutional LPs and avoid basic fund management mistakes, and why valuation discipline and non-greedy founders matter in down cycles. Also, Nick Cassin explains how continuation vehicles (CVs) give LPs a choice between liquidity and extended exposure to high-conviction assets when a fund’s term and capital are running out. He describes how the market has broadened to more types of investors and fund sizes, and outlines the conflict-of-interest controls that make these GP-led secondaries work. Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Senia’s Background, Global Career, and Move to Canada (0:21) Moving to HarbourVest and Designing Canada Growth Strategy (4:00) Canada’s “Perfect Storm” and Agriculture vs Geology Metaphor for Venture (5:42) What Canada Needs to Fully Capture Innovation Opportunity (8:04) How US Allocators Should Approach Canada and Diversification Benefits (11:21) Expectations of Emerging GPs and Importance of Fund Management Basics (17:59) When Continuation Vehicles Make Sense for Venture (21:39) Trends in New Money Capital and Expansion of CV Market (23:40) Managing Conflicts of Interest in GP-Led Continuation Vehicles (26:29) LP Behavior: Who Rolls vs Sells in CV Transactions (31:14) Four Filters for Durable Companies and Role of Founder Non-Greed (34:29) Longevity as an Asset Class and Implications for Pensions (37:03) Applying Longevity and Defense-Tech Themes in Manager Diligence (41:00) Innovation Capital as Part of Canada’s Sovereignty and Late-Stage Capital Gaps (44:33) How Emerging Managers Should Approach HarbourVest and Build Track Record (47:12) Connecting with Senia and Parting Thoughts (51:01) HarbourVest Partners is a global private markets investment firm managing approximately $150B in assets, with a 45-year history and venture as a core part of its franchise. The firm operates as a multi-strategy, multi-manager platform — primary fund investments, secondaries, direct co-investments, and credit — across North America, Europe, and Asia. Senia Rapisarda leads HarbourVest's Canadian strategy from Toronto, deploying capital across funds and growth-stage companies and serving as a bridge between the Canadian ecosystem and HarbourVest's global LP and GP network. Sidley Austin LLP is a premier global law firm with a dedicated Venture Funds practice, advising top venture capital firms, institutional investors, and private equity sponsors on fund formation, investment structuring, and regulatory compliance. With deep expertise across private markets, Sidley provides strategic legal counsel to help funds scale effectively. Learn more at sidley.com. Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies.  The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. HarbourVest Partners, LLC is a registered investment adviser under the Investment Advisers Act of 1940. 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This week on Swimming with Allocators, Earnest and Alexa welcome Teddy Repko of the Yuhaaviatam of San Manuel Nation, who shares how his global upbringing, risk-aware personality, and early trading career shaped his investing approach, and how a shift at Columbia’s endowment from hedge funds to relationship-driven venture gave him a front-row seat to the asset class. He breaks down how LPs really underwrite managers—balancing base rates, power-law math, and portfolio construction with deep people and relationship assessment—and flags both opportunities and risks in today’s market, from mega funds, AI-driven valuations, and rapid funding cycles to concentrated DPI, late-stage growth, and crypto. Also in this episode, Nick Cassin explains how Sidley advises on secondary fund liquidity transactions, outlining the legal risks around transfers, why not all secondaries are created equal, and how structures like LP trades and strip sales are used across asset classes, including venture. Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Teddy’s Origin Story and Global Upbringing (1:14) Discovering the Columbia Endowment Allocator Role (3:06) Base Rates, Venture Math, and Manager Differentiation (8:20) Rise of Mega Funds and Impact on Seed Ecosystem (11:07) Valuation Concerns, AI Pace, and Compressed Diligence (13:47) Nick Explains Legal Risk and Why Not All Secondaries Match (16:10) Sidley’s Secondaries Practice Across Private Markets (20:18) Risks in Later Stage Growth and Crypto Ecosystem (23:04) Debating China Risk and Capital Return Constraints (26:23) Background on Yahavitatam Tribe and Sovereign Wealth Fund (0:27:10) How New Allocators Add Differentiated Value to Portfolios (30:15) Israeli Seed Ecosystem and Top of Funnel Differentiation (32:38) Relationship Building, AI Noise, and Handwritten Notes (36:34) Final Reflections on Venture FOMO and Consistent Allocating (37:02) Yuhaaviatam of San Manuel Sovereign Fund is a sovereign wealth fund managed from the Reservation of the Yuhaaviatam of San Manuel Nation near Highland, California. Yuhaaviatam of San Manuel Nation is a federally recognized American Indian tribe that exercises its inherent sovereign right of self-governance and provides essential services for its citizens through infrastructure development, governmental and civil services, and the advancement of social, economic, and cultural initiatives. The assets of the sovereign fund are managed by its executive leadership team in support of the Nation's long-term objectives and future generations. Sidley Austin LLP is a premier global law firm with a dedicated Venture Funds practice, advising top venture capital firms, institutional investors, and private equity sponsors on fund formation, investment structuring, and regulatory compliance. With deep expertise across private markets, Sidley provides strategic legal counsel to help funds scale effectively. Learn more at sidley.com. Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies.  The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on Swimming with Allocators, Kate Simpson joins Earnest and Alexa to share her journey from starting as a history major at the UNC endowment to leading the venture strategy at multi-asset OCIO firm GEM. She explains how she learned institutional investing, specialized in private markets, and refined her craft at Parish Capital and Truebridge, including fund-of-funds due diligence, reference work, and the power of platforms and networks. The conversation dives into how to build a venture program from scratch, why alignment, patience, and resource intensity matter, and how GEM uses a barbell approach across top-tier scaled platforms and emerging managers while avoiding the “crowded middle.” Kate breaks down how LPs evaluate managers (source, pick, win), why fund math and ownership are critical, and how today’s AI-driven cycle, secondary markets, and companies staying private longer are reshaping ventures. Also, don’t miss Nick Cassin from Sidley as he explains the rapid growth of the private-fund secondary market, what’s driving the surge in secondary and continuation vehicle (CV) transactions, and how new types of capital providers are stepping in as lead investors to provide liquidity to private-market participants. Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Starting at UNC Endowment With No Finance Background (0:31)   Transitioning from TrueBridge to Gem and Taking on a Leadership Role (6:10) Advice for Building a New Venture Program and Aligning Stakeholders (10:12) Democratization of Venture Access and Barbell Strategy for Manager Selection (12:38) Sourcing and Evaluating New Venture Managers with a High-Volume Funnel (16:26) Secondaries Market Boom and Macro Dynamics Driving Liquidity Needs (21:00) Rise of Continuation Vehicles and Structural Evolution of Secondaries (23:36) How to Approach a First LP Meeting and Importance of Fund Math (26:03) Defining Early Versus Later Stages and Gem's Seed and Micro Fund Threshold (28:13) Normalization of Secondary Liquidity for Founders and Early Investors (35:24) Future Opportunities in Smaller Funds and the Dynamic Early Ecosystem (36:12) Final Thoughts and Takeaways (40:12) GEM is an independent investment management firm that provides customized solutions for long-term investors worldwide. Since 2007, we have sought to deliver superior risk-adjusted returns to our clients by combining disciplined investment research and active portfolio management with exceptional service and enduring partnership. With a global platform, broad institutional investment capabilities, and an experienced team, we design portfolios to meet the unique needs of each investor we serve. For more information, visit www.geminvestments.com. Sidley Austin LLP is a premier global law firm with a dedicated Venture Funds practice, advising top venture capital firms, institutional investors, and private equity sponsors on fund formation, investment structuring, and regulatory compliance. With deep expertise across private markets, Sidley provides strategic legal counsel to help funds scale effectively. Learn more at sidley.com. Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies.  The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this 100th episode of Swimming with Alligators, Earnest and Alexa dive into how emerging managers and VCs can truly differentiate in a world where everyone shows the same logos and track records. They unpack why LPs increasingly care about who actually sourced and led deals, why personal differentiation matters more than over-explaining strategy, and how consumer investing is quietly coming back into favor. They explore the limits of “AI strategies” that are more theater than edge, the shifting career paths for 30–40-something VCs, and whether the popular barbell approach to venture (tiny funds + megafunds) still fits a rapidly changing market. They also discuss how diligence is evolving, why moats now look more like trust, data, and distribution than pure tech, and what a wave of large IPOs could mean for angels, new funds, and early-stage competition. Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Celebrating 100 Episodes and DDQ Format (0:33)   Differentiation in Fund Decks and Shared Logo Problem (2:12) Why Sourced vs Led Matters and Back-Channel Relationships (3:56) Overemphasis on Strategy vs True Differentiation and Team Cohesion (6:25) Pressure to Go Public, Headaches of Being Public, and Lawsuit Risk (10:14) OpenAI, Anthropic, SpaceX, and Logic of If They Do It, We Have to Do It (12:26) Enterprise VCs Moving into Consumer and Founders Rethinking Moats (14:11) Distribution, Brand, Trust, and Proprietary Data as Defensible Moats (16:25) Google, Personal Data, and Unseen Costs of Using LLMs (18:15) LPs Asking About AI Strategy and Congruent Use of AI Tools (20:44) Start ,Bench, Cut, Trade, and Suspend for 30s and 40s VCs (24:46) Allocators Following a Barbell Approach and Conventional Wisdom (27:11) LPs Diligencing Firm Strategy, Hiring, and Seed Creep at Large Funds (34:56) Audience Q&A Segment Introduction and Contact Information (37:13) Tinkering, Experimenting with Workflows, and Evaluating AI Tool Impact (39:07) Durability of Business Models, Trust, Distribution, and Manufactured Momentum (41:02) Post-IPO Talent Leaving, Mafias, and Angel-Backed New Founders (44:11) Closing Reflections on 100 Episodes and Looking Ahead to the Future (46:24) Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies.  The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on Swimming with Allocators, Earnest and Alexa welcome Mike Kakenmaster, Director of Investments at Loyola University Chicago, to discuss how a small endowment builds and scales a modern private capital and venture program. Mike shares his journey from hedge funds and a family office to Loyola, explaining how being a generalist across asset classes (hedge funds, buyout, credit, venture) helps him see risks, opportunities, and market cycles more clearly. The conversation covers the shift of LP attention between private markets and hedge funds, how Loyola doubled its private capital allocation, and why they moved deliberately into venture instead of rushing into brand-name funds. Mike also explains why early-stage track records can be misleading, how he evaluates managers (portfolio construction, reserves, access, networks, and founder/company quality), and why smaller and emerging managers can be especially compelling. Also, Chuck Daly of Sidley focuses on how first-time fund managers should thoughtfully build their operational and governance infrastructure, especially around disclosures and conflicts of interest, so they can run a real business, protect LPs, and clearly communicate how they’ll handle inevitable issues. Highlights from this week’s conversation include: From Hedge Funds And Family Office To Loyola Investment Office (0:30) What Keeps Mike Interested in Allocating and Fund Investments (3:14) Advantages of Being a Generalist Across Multiple Asset Classes (5:42) Shift of Capital Between Private Markets and Hedge Funds (10:30) Growing Loyola’s Private Capital Allocation and Building from Scratch (13:22) Early Days Entering Venture During a Hot Fundraising Environment (16:51) Operational Infrastructure, Disclosures, and Conflicts Framework for GPs (19:20) Governance Framework and Handling Unforeseen Conflicts of Interest (22:40) Avoiding Overreliance on Early Venture Track Records and Marks (27:53) Evaluating Reserves, Follow-On Decisions, and Portfolio Construction (32:14) Loyola’s Venture Strategy, Emerging Managers, and Fund Size Sweet Spot (34:34) Advantages of Partnering with Smaller Endowments for GPs (39:16) Advice to Smaller Endowments Starting a Venture Program (43:20) Final Thoughts and Takeaways (46:21) Founded in 1870, Loyola University Chicago is one of the nation’s largest Jesuit, Catholic universities, with nearly 17,000 students. The University has four campuses: three in the greater Chicago area and one in Rome, Italy, as well as course locations at our Retreat and Ecology Campus in Woodstock, Illinois. The University features 13 schools and colleges, including the Quinlan School of Business, Marcella Niehoff School of Nursing, Stritch School of Medicine, Parkinson School of Health Sciences and Public Health, Arrupe College, College of Arts and Sciences, School of Communication, School of Continuing and Professional Studies, School of Education, School of Environmental Sustainability, School of Law, School of Social Work, and Graduate School. Consistently ranked a top national university by U.S. News & World Report, Loyola is also among a select group of universities recognized for community service and engagement by prestigious national organizations like the Carnegie Foundation and the Corporation for National and Community Service. Sidley Austin LLP is a premier global law firm with a dedicated Venture Funds practice, advising top venture capital firms, institutional investors, and private equity sponsors on fund formation, investment structuring, and regulatory compliance. With deep expertise across private markets, Sidley provides strategic legal counsel to help funds scale effectively. Learn more at sidley.com. Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies.  The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on Swimming with Allocators, growth-investor-turned-LP Yuri Lee (TMRS) joins Earnest and Alexa and explains how her global upbringing and love of technology shaped her investing philosophy and belief that talent can come from anywhere. She walks through TMRS’s $3B and growing venture/growth mandate, how they split exposure between early-stage and multi-stage funds, and why they are building an aggressive 50/50 funds and co-investment program. Yuri shares what she looks for in emerging managers in clear, differentiated edge in sourcing, picking, or winning; true product–market fit between a manager’s edge and fund strategy; and non-consensus, outlier ideas. Throughout, she offers candid advice on how GPs can better pitch institutional LPs, why most decks sound the same, and what it really takes to stand out in a consensus-heavy, AI-dominated market. Also, Chuck Daly of Sidley talks about how emerging VC managers should think proactively about compliance, conflicts of interest, disclosure, and performance/marketing practices under (and aligned with) the Advisers Act and SEC’s marketing rule principles. Highlights from this week’s conversation include: How a Global Upbringing Shapes an Investor’s Worldview (0:13) Consumer Investing and Game Development Experience (2:22) Market Cycles in SaaS and Consumer Narratives (4:19) TMRS Mandate and Building a New Venture Program (6:16) Early Stage Managers and Differentiated, Non-Consensus Portfolios (9:20) What Matters Most at Early Stage vs Growth Stage (12:08) What LPs Really Want to Hear About: Companies and Decisions (14:11) How Pensions and Institutional LPs Run Diligence (17:04) Managing Portfolio Company Synergies and Conflicts (23:56) Marketing Rule Principles, Performance, and Case Studies (26:21) Why TMRS Uses Co-Invests and Target Mix With Funds (30:15) Barbell Approach: Early Stage Funds and Later Stage Co Invests (32:02) Information Gaps for LPs vs GPs and Founder Access (35:55) Consensus Rounds, Party Rounds, and Manager Profiles (38:56) Role of Non-Consensus Managers and Unique Edges (42:09) Rethinking AI Thesis and Value Capture by Model Labs (43:22) Advice For GPs Moving to LP Roles and Building Empathy (45:20) Final Thoughts and Takeaways (47:18) The Texas Municipal Retirement System is a $48+ billion public pension plan serving employees of participating Texas cities. TMRS invests across a diversified portfolio including public equities, fixed income, real assets, and private equity, with venture and growth investments forming an important component of its private markets strategy. Sidley Austin LLP is a premier global law firm with a dedicated Venture Funds practice, advising top venture capital firms, institutional investors, and private equity sponsors on fund formation, investment structuring, and regulatory compliance. With deep expertise across private markets, Sidley provides strategic legal counsel to help funds scale effectively. Learn more at sidley.com. Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies.  The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on Swimming with Allocators, Erik Balck Sørensen joins Earnest and Alexa to share his journey from serial founder in an almost non-existent Danish startup scene to CIO of Denmark’s Export and Investment Fund, a sovereign platform backing innovation at scale. Erik explains how Denmark went from having no venture funds or ecosystem infrastructure to becoming a global player in biotech, green tech, and deep tech, and why “giving back” and tight founder communities were crucial to that evolution. He breaks down what it really means to run a sovereign wealth fund with a dual mandate, balancing financial returns for taxpayers with societal impact, and how political momentum, past missteps, and investment discipline shape their strategy. Erik also details Denmark’s 2030 plan: moving faster, professionalizing as an LP and direct investor, and doubling or tripling down on stronghold verticals like life sciences, selected green technologies, quantum computing, and European growth-stage capital. Additionally, Chuck Daly explains how evolving market dynamics, LP demands, and longer-dated, more complex venture products are reshaping the regulatory landscape for VC managers, driving greater scrutiny on valuation, fund structures, and exemptions, and highlighting the value of Sidley’s deep, shared institutional expertise for GPs navigating this shift. Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Erik’s Journey From Founder to Sovereign Wealth CIO (0:13) Community Building and Giving Back Culture (5:26)   Corporates, Biotech, Green Tech, and Deep Tech (8:17)   What Denmark’s Export and Investment Fund Is (9:39)   Balancing Political Momentum, Purpose, and Profit (12:52)   Small Country Strategy and Global Fund Partnerships (15:51)   2030 Strategy to Move Faster and Smarter (19:42)   Priority Verticals: Biotech, Quantum, Green Tech, Growth (32:08)   Misconceptions About the Fund and New Operating Style (36:58)   Infrastructure Bets: AI Supercomputer and Quantum Facility (40:48)   Technological Sovereignty and Europe’s Tech Dependence (44:14)   Defense Technology Catch-Up with US Partners (48:47)   Optimism From Founders and How to Contact Erik (51:01)   Denmark´s Export and Investment Fund is a new, state-owned fund which proves a single point of contact to all Danish companies in need of state financed risk capital. We cover both the entrepreneur, small and medium-sized companies who need capital to unfold their full potential, and export companies who wish to conquer new or emerging markets. We can guide you all the way, from the company´s tentative beginnings through substantial growth to entry into the global markets with export guarantees and stock market listings, because our mission is to help to grow the Danish economy and green the globe. http://www.eifo.dk Sidley Austin LLP is a premier global law firm with a dedicated Venture Funds practice, advising top venture capital firms, institutional investors, and private equity sponsors on fund formation, investment structuring, and regulatory compliance. With deep expertise across private markets, Sidley provides strategic legal counsel to help funds scale effectively. Learn more at sidley.com. Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies.  The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on Swimming with Allocators, Wes Panek joins Earnest and Alexa to share his unconventional journey from consulting and international development to venture capital, and ultimately to his current role as an LP at the Astera Institute, a multi-billion-dollar foundation focused on deep tech and frontier science. Wes explains how his family background shaped his desire to make markets work for everyone, what he learned evaluating hundreds of emerging managers at Screen Door, and why he believes there is no single playbook for success in venture. He breaks down how and why Astera is adding fund investing alongside grants and research, the structural advantages of foundations backing deep tech funds, and the gaps he sees in LP coverage of technical managers. Wes also offers practical lessons on building a new fund-of-funds program from scratch, including the importance of deploying capital sooner, being highly selective with time, and leveraging flexibility without losing discipline. For LPs and GPs interested in deep tech, he shares advice on underwriting technical strategies without a PhD, the rare “unicorn” profile of ideal managers, and concrete qualifiers for funds that might be a fit for Astera’s capital. Additionally, Chuck Daly of Sidley explains how today’s SEC and global regulators are refocusing on core anti-fraud, valuation, conflicts of interest, and disclosure principles for venture managers, with growing state and international scrutiny—especially around process, governance, and ESG — outside the US. Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Wes’s Journey From Consulting to International Development and Venture (0:35)   Learning GP–LP Dynamics and Two Customers in Venture (3:55)   Mission of Astera Institute and Focus on Frontier Tech (5:54)   Adding Fund Investing and Deep Tech Focus at Astera (7:19)   Designing Astera’s Deep Tech Fund Strategy as an Experiment (11:05)   Regulatory Priorities for VC Managers: Communication and Anti Fraud (15:45)   SEC Expectations on Valuation Process and Consistency (20:21)   Global Regulatory Trends and ESG Focus for Venture (23:20)   Foundation vs Fund of Funds: Flexibility, Risk, and Time Horizon (28:36)   How Astera Underwrites Deep Tech Funds and Direct Investments (29:09)   Do LPs Need To Be Technical and How To Skill Up (34:43)   Ideal Traits of Deep Tech GPs and Wes’s Bias Toward Technical Founders (39:52)   Fund Parameters Wes Backs: Size, Stage, and Themes (43:20)   Astera Institute is a philanthropic organization dedicated to advancing frontier science and technology for the benefit of humanity. The Institute supports in-house scientific research, grantmaking, direct investments, and fund investing to accelerate progress in areas such as artificial intelligence, neuroscience, energy, and other deep-tech domains. Learn more at asterainstitute.org.   Sidley Austin LLP is a premier global law firm with a dedicated Venture Funds practice, advising top venture capital firms, institutional investors, and private equity sponsors on fund formation, investment structuring, and regulatory compliance. With deep expertise across private markets, Sidley provides strategic legal counsel to help funds scale effectively. Learn more at sidley.com. Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies.  The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on Swimming with Allocators, Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat talk with Avivar Capital Co-Founders Lisa Richter and Tina Castro about how they built an impact investing firm focused on aligning capital with social and environmental outcomes. They trace their paths from ShoreBank, Goldman Sachs, and the California Endowment to launching Avivar, and explain why all investing has impact, positive or negative. The conversation covers place-based investing, creative deal structuring for disaster recovery (like post-wildfire efforts in California), using venture capital as the right tool for scalable solutions such as edtech, and their distinctive approach to diligencing emerging managers without conventional track records. Key takeaways include starting with the end impact in mind, matching capital type to the problem, the power of proximity to communities being served, and why persistence and thoughtful risk-taking are essential to building more equitable capital markets. Also, don’t miss Michael Podolny from Sidley as he explains that his startup clients are increasingly dealing with early founder breakups and complex AI/data licensing issues, and that he now relies on AI tools daily to dramatically speed up legal work while preserving his core advisory value. Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Lisa’s Path From ShoreBank to Impact Investing Advisory Work (0:34) Transition from Wall Street to Impact Investing (2:46) Launching Independent Practices and Merging Into Avivar (4:09) Moving From Impact Theory to Practical Execution (8:37) Comprehensive Mission‑Aligned Investment Approach (11:23) Starting With Outcomes and Choosing the Right Type of Capital (14:31) Creative Structuring Example for Wildfire Recovery Capital (17:35) AI, Data Licensing, and Deal Structures (20:31) Handcrafted Deals, AI’s Role, and Scaling Impact (24:30) All Investing as Impact and Reframing Positive Impact Investing (27:39) Diligencing Emerging Managers With Nontraditional Track Records (32:11) Venture Capital for Scaling Digital Education Solutions (35:43) Standout GP Characteristics and Key Signals (38:37) Reflections on a Decade of Building Avivar (41:52) Pride in Team, Talent, and Firm Culture (43:09) Final Thoughts and Takeaways (44:06) Avivar Capital is a women-led registered investment advisor founded to advance impact investing and system-level change. Emerging from The California Endowment and built on decades of mission-driven experience, Avivar specializes in rigorous evaluation of first-time managers and partners only with investors who share a vision for equity, inclusion, and catalytic capital. Learn more at www.avivarcapital.com. Sidley Austin LLP is a premier global law firm with a dedicated Venture Funds practice, advising top venture capital firms, institutional investors, and private equity sponsors on fund formation, investment structuring, and regulatory compliance. With deep expertise across private markets, Sidley provides strategic legal counsel to help funds scale effectively. Learn more at sidley.com. Swimming with Allocators is a podcast that dives into the intriguing world of Venture Capital from an LP (Limited Partner) perspective. Hosts Alexa Binns and Earnest Sweat are seasoned professionals who have donned various hats in the VC ecosystem. Each episode, we explore where the future opportunities lie in the VC landscape with insights from top LPs on their investment strategies and industry experts shedding light on emerging trends and technologies.  The information provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute legal advice; instead, all information, content, and materials available on this podcast are for general informational purposes only. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices