Episode 123: Sound Chaser 291

The Sound Chaser Progressive Rock Podcast is on the air. The show this time is the first of two special birthday gift to myself shows. Part two gets released in two weeks. This time around, I have decided to highlight some of my favorite finds from Bandcamp. The podcast has been using Bandcamp for many years to find independent artists, and to give them some of the support they need to keep providing the music we love. So, this time and next time, we will hear just a bit of the great music I have found. I also have an In Memoriam feature for the late Jamie Muir. All that, plus news of tours and releases on Sound Chaser. Playlist1. Druckfarben - Dead Play Awake, from DruckfarbenIN MEMORIAM JAMIE MUIR2. King Crimson - Easy Money, from Larks' Tongues in Aspic3. King Crimson - The Talking Drum, from Larks' Tongues in Aspic4. King Crimson - Larks' Tongues in Aspic Part Two, from Larks' Tongues in AspicEND IN MEMORIAM5. Drifting Sun - Diogenes, from Planet Junkie6. Emily Bezar - Falling Up, from The Rococo B-Sides7. Carlo Celuque - Pulsating Particles, from Berlin Walk8. Chromatic Aberration - Lord of the City, from The Trial of the King9. WIZRD - Lessons, from Seasons10. Zombi - Thoughtforms, from 2020THE SYMPHONIC ZONE11. Andrew Rubin & Jon Anderson - Movement 1 - Part One, from Guitar Concerto12. Steve Cochrane - Swans, from With or Without [2023 remix]13. Aisles - Melancholia, from 4:45 AM14. Kant Freud Kafka - Vida y Muerte, from Orinoco15. Chris - Towards the Stars, from Snow Stories16. Kotebel - Lento Cantabile, from Concerto for Piano and Electric Ensemble17. Lodger Wright - In the Winter Heat, from This One's for the Fans18. Karfagen - Solitary Sandpiper Journey, from Solitary Sandpiper Journey19. Emperor Norton - Arrow, from Emperor NortonLEAVING THE SYMPHONIC ZONE20. Elephant Gym - Strong Ladder, from Angle21. Eyes of Etherea - Electosaurus, from Mood Adjuster22. SAWCE - Mouth Noises, from Bedtime Stories23. Hiata - Shallow Chemistry (oxygen), from Vessel Receptor24. Hiata - Cleansing Gandharvas (praña), from Vessel Receptor25. Myriad - Outside Smile, from Sea of the Sinking Sun26. All India Radio - Vega, from Space27. Tohpati Ethnomission - Let the Birds Sing, from Save the Planet28. Elle PF - Perennial Bygones, from She Wrote It29. Lost Crowns - Sound as Colour, from Every Night Something Happens30. Gleb Kolyadin - Kaleidoscope, from Gleb Kolyadin

The Sound Chaser Progressive Rock Podcast is on the air. On the show this time I have new music from Massimo Pieretti, a couple of In Memoriam segments for Mike Ratledge and Mike Visaggio, a wide variety of prog, the Symphonic Zone, and more. All that, plus news of tours and releases on Sound Chaser. Playlist1. This Winter Machine - Kites, from KitesIN MEMORIAM MIKE RATLEDGE2. Soft Machine - Slightly All the Time, from ThirdEND IN MEMORIAM3. Marillion - He Knows You Know, from The Thieving Magpie2. Novalis - Heute oder Nie, from Nach uns die Flut3. Kate Bush - Violin, from Never for Ever4. Ozric Tentacles - Dance of the Loomi, from Arborescence5. Abissi Infiniti - Nebbia Incantata, from Tunnel6. Isotope - Black Sand [2001 remix], from Deep End [See for Miles label]7. Massimo Pieretti - Growing Old, from Things to Live8. Il Balletto di Bronzo - La Tua Casa Comoda [cd bonus track], from Ys9. Anekdoten - Stardust and Sand, from A Time of DayTHE SYMPHONIC ZONEIN MEMORIAM MIKE VISAGGIO10. Kinetic Element - Vision of a New Dawn, from TravelogEND IN MEMORIAM11. Mitch Michelle - Foxtrot on the Glade, from Rift12. Renaissance - Dear Landseer, from Tuscany13. Transatlantic - Nights in White Satin, from Kaleidoscope [bonus disc]14. North Star - Colossus, from Tempest15. David Axelrod - The Smile, from Songs of Innocence16. Happy the Man - The Falcon, from "Better Late..."17. Logos - Sentiero nel Prato, Porta Nell’universo, from Logos18. Pär Lindh Project - Night on Bare Mountain (inc. The Black Stone), from Gothic Impressions19. Nexus - En las Manos de Dios, from MetanoiaLEAVING THE SYMPHONIC ZONE20. Caravan - The Fear and Loathing in Tollington Park Rag, from Cunning Stunts21. Trio of Doom - Dark Prince [live], from Trio of Doom22. Priam - Congruatic Blvd., from Diffraction23. Michael Garrison - Synthation Flow, from Images24. Earthstar - Splendored Skies and Angels, from French Skyline25. Anna Själv Tredje - Ankomster Utanför Tiden, from Tussilago Fanfara26. Thinking Plague - Warheads, from On Both Your Houses27. Nucleus - Arena (Part 2), from Labyrinth28. DFA - Pantera, from Work in Progress Live29. IQ - One Fatal Mistake [extended version], from Frequency Tour

The Sound Chaser Progressive Rock Podcast is on the air. On the show this time I have new music from Ologram and Mesmerizing. Appearing on the show for the first time are Ossicles, Procession, and Lars Fredrik Frøislie. I have the Sound Chaser tour of styles and eras of prog, and The Symphonic Zone. All that, plus news of tours and releases on Sound Chaser. Playlist1. Ossicles - Luna's Light, from Mantlepiece2. Ologram - Kasbah, from La Mia Scia3. Global Village Trucking Company - Skytrain, from Smiling Revolution4. Global Village Trucking Company - Watch Out There's a Mind About, from Smiling Revolution5. Procession - Città Grande, from Frontera6. Steeleye Span - Calling on Song, from The Journey7. Steeleye Span - Blacksmith, from The Journey8. Magna Carta - Sunday on the River, from Songs from Wasties Orchard9. Aphrodite's Child - I Want to Live, from The Complete Collection10. Eric Tingstad, Nancy Rumbel, David Lanz - Deodora, from Woodlands11. Rafael Pacha - Taili Tambur, from Instrumentalita12. Manoel Macia - En el Jardin de una Esfinge, from Animales Invisibiles13. Yes - Time and A Word, from Yesshows14. Yes - Going for the One, from Yesshows15. Premiata Forneria Marconi - Dolcissima Maria, from www.pfmpfm.it (il Best)16. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Still...You Turn Me On, from Live at the Royal Albert HallTHE SYMPHONIC ZONE17. Fireballet - Carollon, from Two, Too...18. Brady Arnold - Adventures at Sea, from Virtually Live - Summer 201019. TNO - Before the Ordeal, from Surrender at Discretion20. String Driven Thing - River of Sleep, from The Machine That Cried21. Gryphon - Second Spasm, from Red Queen to Gryphon Three22. Lars Fredrik Frøislie - Rytter av Dommedag, from Fire FortellingerLEAVING THE SYMPHONIC ZONE23. Mesmerising - Lighting the Candle, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSRgqVF9pj824. Guru Guru - Das Zwinckmaschinen, from Don't Call Us (We Call You)25. Jade Warrior - Asa no Kiri, from Breathing the Storm26. Jade Warrior - Circle of Wisdom, from Breathing the Storm27. Klaus Schulze - Bellistique, from ...Live...28. Ralph Lundsten - Skrattsymfoni, from Skräck Och Skratt, Resor I Okända Världar29. Boris SG - Engineer Part 5, from Engineer30. 3RDegree - Misfortune on Main Street, from Human Interest Story31. Emtidi - Yvonne's Dream, from Emtidi32. Rick Wakeman - Policeman's Ball, from Crimes of Passion33. Cheeto's Magazine - Cosmic Radio Edit, from Tasty Old Snacks 

The Sound Chaser Progressive Rock Podcast is on the air. On the show this time, I have new music from The John Irvine Band, a number of songs from the wayback machine, some more recent pieces, The Symphonic Zone, and more. All that, plus news of tours and releases on Sound Chaser. Playlist1. Caravela Escarlate - Filtro dos Sonhos, from III2. King Crimson - The Great Deceiver, from Starless and Bible Black3. King Crimson - Lament, from Starless and Bible Black4. Kistenmacher / Grosskopf - Timpany Impressions, from Characters5. Deep Purple - Pictures of Home, from Machine Head6. Hawkwind - It's So Easy, from Masters of the Universe [EMI]7. Buffalo Springfield - On the Way Home, from Last Time Around8. Gentle Giant - Give It Back, from Interview9. The John Irvine Band - The City Lights at Twilight, from Here Come the Robots!10. Afforested - Honey Buzzard, from Before the Beech Mast Begins to Fall11. Mannheim Steamroller - Saras Band, from Fresh Aire ITHE SYMPHONIC ZONE12. Premiata Forneria Marconi - The Mountain, from The World Became the World13. Il Trono dei Ricordi - On the Rising Sun, from Il Trono dei Ricordi14. Eloy - Ro Setau, from Ocean 2: The Answer15. Knight Area - A Different Man, from Under a New Sign16. North Sea Radio Orchestra - Dinosaurus Rex Parts 1 & 2, from Dronne17. Circa: - All Intertwined, from HQ18. Circa: - Remember Along the Way, from HQLEAVING THE SYMPHONIC ZONE19. Santana - I'll Be Waiting, from Moonflower20. Steve Hackett - Funny Feeling, from Cured21. Tusmørke - Underboerne, from Bydyra22. Hatfield and the North - Finesse Is for Fairies / Nan True’s Hole / Lything and Gracing, from B.B.C. Sessions23. Mawwal - Helalisa, from Live at ArtSpace24. David Casper - Tantra-La, from Tantra-La25. Loreena McKennitt - The Mummer's Dance, from The Book of Secrets26. Marillion - Hooks in You, from Seasons End27. SBB - Singer, from W Filharmonii Akt 228. Silent Island - Capricorn, from Re-Quator

The Sound Chaser Progressive Rock Podcast is on the air. This show is the Eleventh Anniversary show. I started in early January of 2014, and kept it going since then. To celebrate this eleventh anniversary, I have selected music that comes from an artist’s eleventh studio album. Not all that many prog acts make it to eleven albums, so we will be in rare company. All that, plus news of tours and releases on Sound Chaser. Playlist1. Marillion - A Legacy, from marrillion.com2. Omega - Don't Keep Me Waitin', from Time Robber3. Gentle Giant - Convenience (Clean and Easy), from Civilian4. Strawbs - Time and Life, from Deadlines5. Goblin - Punto di Rottura, from Volo6. Vangelis - The Little Fete, from China7. Yes - Changes, from 901258. Jethro Tull - Rover, from Heavy Horses9. Jean-Luc Ponty - Once Upon a Dream, from Imaginary Voyage10. Pierre Moerlen's Gong - An American in England, from Time Is the Key11. Anthony Phillips - Suite: Sea-Dogs Motoring ii. Basking Shark, from Private Parts & Pieces VI: Ivory Moon12. Mostly Autumn - Box of Tears, from Dressed in Voices13. Kansas - Once in a Lifetime, from In the Spirit of ThingsTHE SYMPHONIC ZONE14. The Flower Kings - Fireghosts, from The Banks of Eden15. Pendragon - Afraid of Everything, from Love Over Fear16. The Pineapple Thief - Bond, from Magnolia17. Kaipa - First Distraction, from Vittjar18. Big Big Train - Grimspound, from Grimspound19. IQ - Ocean, from The Road of Bones20. Mike Oldfield - The Wind Chimes Part One, from Islands21. Glass Hammer - Grace the Skies, from If22. Karfagen - Birds of Passage (Part 2), from Birds of PassageLEAVING THE SYMPHONIC ZONE23. French TV - Nimrod Dancer, from Operation: Mockingbird24. King Crimson - VROOOM VROOOM: Coda, from THRAK25. Peter Gabriel - Darkness, from Up26. Rush - Mystic Rhythms, from Power Windows27. Ozric Tentacles - Plurnstyle, from Become the Other28. Manfred Mann's Earth Band - Africa Suite, from Somewhere in Afrika29. Popol Vuh - Die Nacht der Himmell, from On the Way to a Little Way (Nosferatu Soundtrack)30. Oregon - Arianna, from Oregon31. Pekka Pohjola - Innocent Questions, from Changing Waters32. Saga - All Will Change (It's Happening to Me!), from Generation 1333. Le Orme - Raccogli le Nuvole, from Piccola Rapsodia Dell'ape34. Steve Hackett - Big Dallas Sky, from Blues With a Feeling35. Focus - Brother, from Golden Oldies 

The Sound Chaser Progressive Rock Podcast is on the air. On the show this time we unearth a mostly forgotten song from Genesis, say goodbye to Jon Camp, a significant musician in prog history, and generally take a tour through the periods and styles of progressive music. All that, plus news of tours and releases on Sound Chaser. Playlist1. Zombi - Interstellar Package, from Shape ShiftIN MEMORIAM JON CAMP2. Renaissance - Ashes Are Burning, from Live at Carnegie HallEND IN MEMORIAM3. Paul Greaver - Celebration, from Joy4. Rafael Pacha y Amigos - Mate Kudasai (versione en Castellano), from Diversiones 25. Led Zeppelin - Friends, from Led Zeppelin III6. Led Zeppelin - Celebration Day, from Led Zeppelin III7. The Alan Parsons Project - Sooner or Later, from Vulture Culture8. Jan Hammer - Too Far, from Beyond the Mind's Eye9. Timelock - Napoleon Bonaparte, from The DawnTHE SYMPHONIC ZONE10. Genesis - Inside and Out, from Spot the Pigeon11. Yes - Final Eyes, from Big Generator12. SBB - Memento Z Banalnym Tryptykiem, from Memento Z Banalnym Tryptykiem13. La Maschera di Cera - La Notte Transparente, from Petali di Fuoco14. Yesterdays - F​é​l​ú​ton, from From the Vault15. Pat Metheny - America Undefined, from From This PlaceLEAVING THE SYMPHONIC ZONE16. Harmonium - L'exil, from En Tournée17. Manoel Macia - Flor, from Rozando Burbujas18. jhimm - Decay (The Mind), from A.D.S.R.119. Andy Summers & Robert Fripp - I Advance Masked, from I Advance Masked20.  Brady Arnold - Ebm, from Icy Scales21. Patrick Gleeson - Arrival Music, from Rainbow Delta22. Patrick Gleeson - Ravel Goes to Germany, from Rainbow Delta23. Patrick Gleeson - Hobbits Are Dancing, from Rainbow Delta24. Van der Graaf Generator - Necromancer, from The Aerosol Grey Machine25. Matthew Parmenter - All for Nothing, from All Our Yesterdays26. Jefferson Airplane - Hey Frederick, from Volunteers27. 3RDegree - Scenery, from Narrow-Caster

The Sound Chaser Progressive Rock Podcast is on the air. On the show this time we take a tour through styles of progressive music. Most of the samples come from a while ago, so we can see how and where certain aspects of progressive music took shape. We get some old school progressive rock, some jazz fusion, some electronic prog, some symphonic prog, and perhaps a few surprises along the way. All that, plus news of tours and releases on Sound Chaser. 1. Trettioåriga Kriget  - Mitt Mirakel, from Krigssång2. Kate Bush - Cloudbusting, from Before the Dawn3. Klaus Schulze - A-Numerique, from En=Trance4. Dream Theater - Sacrificed Sons, from Score5. Brand X - The Ghost of Mayfield Lodge, from Masques6. John Serrie - Stratos, from ...And the Stars Go with You7. Steve Khan - Soft Summer Breeze, from TightropeTHE SYMPHONIC ZONE8. Mark Ayres - The Boats, from The Curse of Fenric9. David Axelrod - A Poison Tree, from Songs of Experience10. The December People - Carol of the Bells, from Sounds Like Christmas11. Eloy - Fatal Illusions, from The Tides Return Forever12. IQ - Until the End, from The Road of Bones13. The Dear Hunter - Gloria, from Act V: Hymns with the Devil in Confessional14. The Dear Hunter - The Flame (Is Gone), from Act V: Hymns with the Devil in Confessional15. The Dear Hunter - The Fire (Remains), from Act V: Hymns with the Devil in Confessional16. The Dear Hunter - The March, from Act V: Hymns with the Devil in Confessional17. The Dear Hunter - Blood, from Act V: Hymns with the Devil in Confessional18. The Dear Hunter - A Beginning, from Act V: Hymns with the Devil in ConfessionalLEAVING THE SYMPHONIC ZONE19. California Guitar Trio - Caravan (with drum solo), from Rocks the West20. The Eleventh House - That's the Joint, from Level One21. Bruford - Joe Frazer, from Gradually Going Tornado22. Michael Hoenig - Scatter Part I, from Xcept One23. Terry Riley - Blue Anthem, from No Man's Land24. Bob James - Zebra Man, from Foxie25. Jean-Michel Jarre - Chronologie Parte 3, from Chronologie26. Steve Roach - In the Eye of Noche, from New Life Dreaming27. Dark - Happy Days slash Hate slash Tatum, from Dark28. Rush - In the End, from All the World's a Stage29. Led Zeppelin - The Lemon Song, from Led Zeppelin II30. Rainbow - Starstruck, from Rainbow Rising31. The John Irvine Band - The Electrics Were Down, from The Starships Are Gathering

The Sound Chaser Progressive Rock Podcast is on the air. On the show this time, we say goodbye to the great lyricist of the early prog days, Peter Sinfield, we listen to some epic-length live music, and we say hello to Triade and Paikappu, who appear on the show for the first time. All that, plus news of tours and releases on Sound Chaser. Playlist1. Magenta - Broken, from The Singles: CompleteIN MEMORIAM PETER SINFIELD2. King Crimson - 21st Century Schizoid Man, from In the Court of the Crimson King3. Peter Sinfield - The Piper, from Still4. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Tiger in a Spotlight, from Works, Volume 2END IN MEMORIAM5. Adrian Belew - The Lone Rhinoceros, from Desire of the Rhino King [retrospective]6. Barclay James Harvest - Spirit on the Water, from Gone to Earth7. Marillion - The Great Escape, from Made Again8. Marillion - The Last of You, from Made Again9. Marillion - Falling from the Moon, from Made Again10. French TV - You Got to Run It Out, Dawson!, from I Forgive You for All My Unhappiness11. Deuter - Empty Shore, from Sea & Silence12. Simon and Bard Group - Nuns Canyon Waltz, from The Enormous RadioTHE SYMPHONIC ZONE13. Triade - 1998 (millenovecentonovantotto), from 1998: La Storia di Sabazio14. Paikappu - A Glimpse of Time, from Paikappu15. Pär Lindh Project - The Cathedral, from Progday '98 [compilation]16. Dan Fogelberg & Tim Weisberg - Since You've Asked, from Twin Sons of Different Mothers17. Julverne - Original Rag, from Emballade...18. Renaissance - Song of Scheherazade, from Live at Carnegie HallLEAVING THE SYMPHONIC ZONE19. Soft Machine - Plain Tiffs, from Live in France20. Soft Machine - All White, from Live in France21. Soft Machine - Slightly All the Time, from Live in France22. Soft Machine - Drop, from Live in France23. Soft Machine - M.C., from Live in France24. Soft Machine - Out-Bloody-Rageous, from Live in France25. Porcupine Tree - Oceans Have No Memory, from Recordings26. Zappa Plays Zappa - Peaches en Regalia, from Zappa Plays Zappa27. Zappa Plays Zappa - Zomby Woof, from Zappa Plays Zappa28. Spock's Beard - Bulletproof, from Noise Floor

The Sound Chaser Progressive Rock Podcast is on the air. The show this time has a Genesis theme running through it, with Genesis-related music scattered throughout. In addition, the show returns to the better-known prog rock territory, having strayed quite far in the previous few shows. There is still quite a bit of variety on offer. So, sit back, relax, and enjoy more than three hours of prog goodness. I will even throw in some news about upcoming tours and releases. All that on Sound Chaser. Playlist1. Frank Zappa - It Ain't Necessarily the Saint James Infirmary, from Guitar2. Genesis - Ripples, from A Trick of the Tail3. Glass Hammer - The Watchman on the Walls, from Dreaming City4. Saga - You're Not Alone, from Sagacity [bonus disc]5. Curved Air - Cheetah, from Phantasmagoria6. Van der Graaf - Urban / Killer / Urban, from Vital7. Christian Vander - Malawëlëkaahm, from Ẁurdah Ïtah 8. Christian Vander - Bradïa Da Zïmehn Iëgah, from Ẁurdah Ïtah9. Christian Vander - Manëh Fur Da Zëss, from Ẁurdah Ïtah10. Christian Vander - Fur Dihhël Kobaïa, from Ẁurdah Ïtah11. Christian Vander - Blüm Tendiwa, from Ẁurdah Ïtah12. Christian Vander - Wohldünt Mëm Dëwëlëss, from Ẁurdah Ïtah13. Pendragon - 2AM, from Acoustically Challenged14. Rick Wakeman - Gone But Not Forgotten, from Greatest Hits15. Jethro Tull - Ring out Solstice Bells, from Songs from the WoodTHE SYMPHONIC ZONE16. The Lens - Sequential, from Regeneration17. The Lens - Full of Stars, from Regeneration18. Agents of Mercy - Mercy & Mercury, from The Fading Ghosts of Twilight19. Big Big Train - The Transit of Venus across the Sun, from Merchants of Light20. Mostly Autumn - At Last to Rivendell, from Music Inspired by Lord of the Rings21. Camel - Lawrence, from Rajaz22. Mike Rutherford - Smallcreep's Day, from Smallcreep's DayLEAVING THE SYMPHONIC ZONE23. Roxy Music - Street Life, from Stranded24. Pallas - Holiday, from Sketches25. Peter Gabriel - The Nest That Sailed the Sky, from OVO26. Peter Gabriel - Make Tomorrow, from OVO27. Klaus Schulze - Klaustrophony, from Dreams28. Pete Bardens - Speed of Light, from Speed of Light29. Pete Bardens - Whisper in the Wind, from Speed of Light30. Pete Bardens - Heartland, from Speed of Light31. Tony Banks - For a While, from A Curious Feeling23. GTR - Imagining, from GTR

The Sound Chaser Progressive Rock Podcast is on the air. On the show this time, I have some music from acts that have not been on the show before: Acid Mothers Temple and The Cosmic Jokers. There’s music old and new from all over the place. It’s variety, variety, variety, the same thing every time – variety. All that, plus news of tours and releases on Sound Chaser. Playlist1. Ali Suhail - Red, from White Flag2. Mats / Morgan - Mamma, from Trends and Other Diseases3. Univers Zero - Carabosse, from Univers Zero (1313)4. Stop Motion Orchestra - Spaghettification, from Hydnora5. Santana - La Puesta del Sol, from Jin-Go-Lo-Ba6. Colosseum II - All Skin and Bone, from Electric Savage7. John Patitucci - Four Hands, from Heart of the Bass8. The Cosmic Jokers - Electronic News, from Planeten Sit-In9. The Cosmic Jokers - Intergalactic Radio Guri Broadcasting, from Planeten Sit-In10. The Cosmic Jokers - Raumschiff Rock gleitet im Sonnenwind, from Planeten Sit-In11. The Cosmic Jokers - Interstellar Rock: Kosmische Musik, from Planeten Sit-In12. The Cosmic Jokers - Raumschiff Galaxy saust in die Lichtbahnen, from Planeten Sit-In13. The Cosmic Jokers - Der Planet des Sternenmädchens, from Planeten Sit-In14. Steve Tibbetts - Jungle Rhythm, from Jungle Rhythm15. Acid Mothers Temple & The Melting Pariso U.F.O. - Pleasure Mantra of Sorrows, from Astrogasm from the Inner SpaceTHE SYMPHONIC ZONE16. Ulysses - Vagabond Child, from Neronia17. Discipline - Systems, from Push & Profit18. TNO - Ondanuma Part II, from Ondanuma19. Manfred Mann's Earth Band - Waiting for the Rain, from Angel Station20. Mannheim Steamroller - Mere Image, from Fresh Aire III21. Kentish Spires - The Last Harvest, from The Last HarvestLEAVING THE SYMPHONIC ZONE22. John Abercrombie - Ralph's Piano Waltz, from Current Events23. Laraaji - Universe, from Essence / Universe24. Bel Canto - Time Without End, from Birds of Passage25. Mastermind - Tragic Symphony II. Nothing Left to Say, from Tragic Symphony26. Black Sabbath - The Sabbath Stones, from Tyr27. Bi Kyo Ran - A Violent Nightmare, from A Violent Music28. The Alan Parsons Project - To One in Paradise, from Tales of Mystery and Imagination