Ep.128 Real Conversations → The Reckoning: Debt, Rates & the Future of U.S. Finance w/ Christopher Whalen, Chairman, Whalen Global Advisors

***This webcast originally aired live on Hedgeye.com on July 8, 2025 ***Join Hedgeye CEO Keith McCullough for a timely and insightful conversation with renowned financial professional and author Christopher Whalen.As America faces surging debt, shifting interest rate policy, and mounting political uncertainty, Whalen unpacks the deeper forces reshaping the U.S. markets and economy.From the sweeping implications of the “Big Beautiful Bill” to the long-term effects of fiscal dominance and Federal Reserve policy, this discussion explores how a debt-driven growth model is redefining the future of credit markets, banking, housing and investor behavior. With elevated long-term yields and the U.S. dollar under increasing pressure, this is a must-watch Real Conversation for serious investors seeking clarity on the structural forces shaping tomorrow’s financial landscape.Visit Hedgeye.com for more great investing content.Subscribe to other Hedgeye Products Here:The Call @ HedgeyeThe Macro ShowSignal Strength StocksHedgeye Founder & CEO Keith McCullough's long-awaited new book, “Master The Market” is available now! In this 52-page e-book, Keith McCullough distills decades of Wall Street experience into actionable insights. Discover how to navigate market cycles, avoid major losses, and invest with the confidence of a seasoned pro. Download your free copy right now. Go to Hedgeye.com/book. That’s Hedgeye.com/book. Start generating alpha with our suite of “Sector Pro” investing research products. Dive deep into Retail, Industrials, Technology (and everything in between) with exclusive access to the sharpest analysts and actionable ideas on Wall Street. CLICK HERE to check out out product page. The Call @ Hedgeye is a live webcast that pulls back the curtain on the decision-making process of a world-class hedge fund. Our team of 40+ equity analysts join Hedgeye CEO Keith McCullough weekdays at 7:45am ET to discuss key market developments, trends and our high-conviction long and short investing ideas. You will not get this granular level of insight anywhere else. CLICK HERE to check out our product page.

***This webcast originally aired live on Hedgeye.com on July 2, 2025 ***Join renowned economist Daniel Lacalle and Hedgeye CEO Keith McCullough for a timely and powerful “Real Conversation” on the future of money.As governments around the world spiral deeper into debt and inflation becomes an entrenched policy tool, trust in fiat currencies is eroding fast. Central banks have abandoned restraint, enabling runaway spending and weakening their own credibility.But alternatives are rising. Gold and Bitcoin are stepping in where central banks have failed—offering decentralization, independence, and real value in an increasingly unstable world.Lacalle and McCullough unpack the global implications of this monetary shift—and why the era of unchecked fiat power may be coming to an end.Visit Hedgeye.com for more great investing content.Subscribe to other Hedgeye Products Here:The Call @ HedgeyeThe Macro ShowSignal Strength StocksHedgeye Founder & CEO Keith McCullough's long-awaited new book, “Master The Market” is available now! In this 52-page e-book, Keith McCullough distills decades of Wall Street experience into actionable insights. Discover how to navigate market cycles, avoid major losses, and invest with the confidence of a seasoned pro. Download your free copy right now. Go to Hedgeye.com/book. That’s Hedgeye.com/book. Start generating alpha with our suite of “Sector Pro” investing research products. Dive deep into Retail, Industrials, Technology (and everything in between) with exclusive access to the sharpest analysts and actionable ideas on Wall Street. CLICK HERE to check out out product page. The Call @ Hedgeye is a live webcast that pulls back the curtain on the decision-making process of a world-class hedge fund. Our team of 40+ equity analysts join Hedgeye CEO Keith McCullough weekdays at 7:45am ET to discuss key market developments, trends and our high-conviction long and short investing ideas. You will not get this granular level of insight anywhere else. CLICK HERE to check out our product page. Turn off that tired “Old Wall” TV and tune into The Macro Show, Hedgeye’s live daily broadcast featuring key market and economic insights, investing implications and interactive viewer Q&A. See for yourself why more and more investors in the U.S. and abroad have made this “must-see” market TV. We are live online every weekday morning at 9:00am ET. CLICK HERE to check out our product page.

Hedgeye Macro analyst Ryan Ricci breaks down finance to its simplest form to help you build wealth over the long term. In this episode, Ryan and Ish discuss the various forms of retirement accounts, along with their pros and cons.Hedgeye Founder & CEO Keith McCullough's long-awaited new book, “Master The Market” is available now! In this 52-page e-book, Keith McCullough distills decades of Wall Street experience into actionable insights. Discover how to navigate market cycles, avoid major losses, and invest with the confidence of a seasoned pro. Download your free copy right now. Go to Hedgeye.com/book. That’s Hedgeye.com/book. Start generating alpha with our suite of “Sector Pro” investing research products. Dive deep into Retail, Industrials, Technology (and everything in between) with exclusive access to the sharpest analysts and actionable ideas on Wall Street. CLICK HERE to check out out product page. The Call @ Hedgeye is a live webcast that pulls back the curtain on the decision-making process of a world-class hedge fund. Our team of 40+ equity analysts join Hedgeye CEO Keith McCullough weekdays at 7:45am ET to discuss key market developments, trends and our high-conviction long and short investing ideas. You will not get this granular level of insight anywhere else. CLICK HERE to check out our product page.

**This webcast originally aired live on Hedgeye.com on April 1, 2020**Join Hedgeye CEO Keith McCullough for a very special conversation with Strategic Intelligence editor James Rickards. Keith and Jim dive deep into the current market chaos, key economic ramifications, the failure of central banks to arrest the recent decline and how investors can protect their wealth amidst the market tumult.Visit Hedgeye.com for more great investing content.Subscribe to other Hedgeye Products Here:The Call @ HedgeyeThe Macro ShowSignal Strength StocksTop Stock PicksHedgeye Founder & CEO Keith McCullough's long-awaited new book, “Master The Market” is available now! In this 52-page e-book, Keith McCullough distills decades of Wall Street experience into actionable insights. Discover how to navigate market cycles, avoid major losses, and invest with the confidence of a seasoned pro. Download your free copy right now. Go to Hedgeye.com/book. That’s Hedgeye.com/book. Start generating alpha with our suite of “Sector Pro” investing research products. Dive deep into Retail, Industrials, Technology (and everything in between) with exclusive access to the sharpest analysts and actionable ideas on Wall Street. CLICK HERE to check out out product page. The Call @ Hedgeye is a live webcast that pulls back the curtain on the decision-making process of a world-class hedge fund. Our team of 40+ equity analysts join Hedgeye CEO Keith McCullough weekdays at 7:45am ET to discuss key market developments, trends and our high-conviction long and short investing ideas. You will not get this granular level of insight anywhere else. CLICK HERE to check out our product page. Turn off that tired “Old Wall” TV and tune into The Macro Show, Hedgeye’s live daily broadcast featuring key market and economic insights, investing implications and interactive viewer Q&A. See for yourself why more and more investors in the U.S. and abroad have made this “must-see” market TV. We are live online every weekday morning at 9:00am ET. CLICK HERE to check out our product page.

Hedgeye Macro analyst Ryan Ricci breaks down finance to its simplest form to help you build wealth over the long term. In this episode, Hedgeye Global Technology analyst Jose Valcourt joins Ryan for a discussion on the explosion in popularity in owning $NVDA, why they are in just about everyone's portfolios these days, and how they're driving the AI conversation.Hedgeye Founder & CEO Keith McCullough's long-awaited new book, “Master The Market” is available now! In this 52-page e-book, Keith McCullough distills decades of Wall Street experience into actionable insights. Discover how to navigate market cycles, avoid major losses, and invest with the confidence of a seasoned pro. Download your free copy right now. Go to Hedgeye.com/book. That’s Hedgeye.com/book. Start generating alpha with our suite of “Sector Pro” investing research products. Dive deep into Retail, Industrials, Technology (and everything in between) with exclusive access to the sharpest analysts and actionable ideas on Wall Street. CLICK HERE to check out out product page. The Call @ Hedgeye is a live webcast that pulls back the curtain on the decision-making process of a world-class hedge fund. Our team of 40+ equity analysts join Hedgeye CEO Keith McCullough weekdays at 7:45am ET to discuss key market developments, trends and our high-conviction long and short investing ideas. You will not get this granular level of insight anywhere else. CLICK HERE to check out our product page. Turn off that tired “Old Wall” TV and tune into The Macro Show, Hedgeye’s live daily broadcast featuring key market and economic insights, investing implications and interactive viewer Q&A. See for yourself why more and more investors in the U.S. and abroad have made this “must-see” market TV. We are live online every weekday morning at 9:00am ET. CLICK HERE to check out our product page.

**This webcast originally aired live on Hedgeye.com on April 8th, 2019**Renowned hedge fund manager Kyle Bass (founder of Hayman Capital) bet against the subprime mortgage market ahead of the 2008 financial crisis. Watch the replay from this interview between Bass and Hedgeye CEO Keith McCullough's pro-to-pro discussion on China, global recession, and why interest rates may head to near zero by 2020.Visit Hedgeye.com for more great investing content.Subscribe to other Hedgeye Products Here:The Call @ HedgeyeThe Macro ShowSignal Strength StocksTop Stock PicksHedgeye Founder & CEO Keith McCullough's long-awaited new book, “Master The Market” is available now! In this 52-page e-book, Keith McCullough distills decades of Wall Street experience into actionable insights. Discover how to navigate market cycles, avoid major losses, and invest with the confidence of a seasoned pro. Download your free copy right now. Go to Hedgeye.com/book. That’s Hedgeye.com/book. Start generating alpha with our suite of “Sector Pro” investing research products. Dive deep into Retail, Industrials, Technology (and everything in between) with exclusive access to the sharpest analysts and actionable ideas on Wall Street. CLICK HERE to check out out product page. The Call @ Hedgeye is a live webcast that pulls back the curtain on the decision-making process of a world-class hedge fund. Our team of 40+ equity analysts join Hedgeye CEO Keith McCullough weekdays at 7:45am ET to discuss key market developments, trends and our high-conviction long and short investing ideas. You will not get this granular level of insight anywhere else. CLICK HERE to check out our product page. Turn off that tired “Old Wall” TV and tune into The Macro Show, Hedgeye’s live daily broadcast featuring key market and economic insights, investing implications and interactive viewer Q&A. See for yourself why more and more investors in the U.S. and abroad have made this “must-see” market TV. We are live online every weekday morning at 9:00am ET. CLICK HERE to check out our product page.

Hedgeye Macro analyst Ryan Ricci breaks down finance to its simplest form to help you build wealth over the long term. In this episode, co-host Ish Asad follows up on the conversation from Episode 9, digging into the basics of Bitcoin.Hedgeye Founder & CEO Keith McCullough's long-awaited new book, “Master The Market” is available now! In this 52-page e-book, Keith McCullough distills decades of Wall Street experience into actionable insights. Discover how to navigate market cycles, avoid major losses, and invest with the confidence of a seasoned pro. Download your free copy right now. Go to Hedgeye.com/book. That’s Hedgeye.com/book. Start generating alpha with our suite of “Sector Pro” investing research products. Dive deep into Retail, Industrials, Technology (and everything in between) with exclusive access to the sharpest analysts and actionable ideas on Wall Street. CLICK HERE to check out out product page. The Call @ Hedgeye is a live webcast that pulls back the curtain on the decision-making process of a world-class hedge fund. Our team of 40+ equity analysts join Hedgeye CEO Keith McCullough weekdays at 7:45am ET to discuss key market developments, trends and our high-conviction long and short investing ideas. You will not get this granular level of insight anywhere else. CLICK HERE to check out our product page. Turn off that tired “Old Wall” TV and tune into The Macro Show, Hedgeye’s live daily broadcast featuring key market and economic insights, investing implications and interactive viewer Q&A. See for yourself why more and more investors in the U.S. and abroad have made this “must-see” market TV. We are live online every weekday morning at 9:00am ET. CLICK HERE to check out our product page.

**This webcast originally aired live on Hedgeye.com on May 21, 2020**Join Hedgeye CEO Keith McCullough and Danielle DiMartino Booth, former Fed advisor and Chief Strategist at Quill Intelligence, in this pro-to-pro investing discussion about the current market environment.Visit Hedgeye.com for more great investing content.Subscribe to other Hedgeye Products Here:The Call @ HedgeyeThe Macro ShowSignal Strength StocksTop Stock PicksHedgeye Founder & CEO Keith McCullough's long-awaited new book, “Master The Market” is available now! In this 52-page e-book, Keith McCullough distills decades of Wall Street experience into actionable insights. Discover how to navigate market cycles, avoid major losses, and invest with the confidence of a seasoned pro. Download your free copy right now. Go to Hedgeye.com/book. That’s Hedgeye.com/book. Start generating alpha with our suite of “Sector Pro” investing research products. Dive deep into Retail, Industrials, Technology (and everything in between) with exclusive access to the sharpest analysts and actionable ideas on Wall Street. CLICK HERE to check out out product page. The Call @ Hedgeye is a live webcast that pulls back the curtain on the decision-making process of a world-class hedge fund. Our team of 40+ equity analysts join Hedgeye CEO Keith McCullough weekdays at 7:45am ET to discuss key market developments, trends and our high-conviction long and short investing ideas. You will not get this granular level of insight anywhere else. CLICK HERE to check out our product page. Turn off that tired “Old Wall” TV and tune into The Macro Show, Hedgeye’s live daily broadcast featuring key market and economic insights, investing implications and interactive viewer Q&A. See for yourself why more and more investors in the U.S. and abroad have made this “must-see” market TV. We are live online every weekday morning at 9:00am ET. CLICK HERE to check out our product page.

***This webcast originally aired live on Hedgeye.com on May 21st, 2025***In this special edition of Real Conversations, Hedgeye CEO Keith McCullough hosts Danielle Gilbert, Managing Director at Eldridge Capital Management, for a high-level look into the evolving CLO (Collateralized Loan Obligation) market.Gilbert brings deep domain expertise to break down the risk-reward calculus in today’s CLO landscape. Together, she and Keith tackle key questions around:The health of the leveraged loan marketShifts in credit quality and default riskWhere institutional capital is flowing—and whyHow macro volatility is reshaping the search for yieldThis is a must-watch for fixed-income investors and portfolio managers looking to understand how CLOs are positioned within the broader credit cycle.Danielle Gilbert is a Managing Director at Eldridge Capital Management. Previously, she was a Managing Director for Business Development at Panagram Structured Asset Management. Prior to Panagram, Ms. Gilbert was Director in securitized product sales at RBC Capital Markets. Earlier in her career, Ms. Gilbert worked as a Managing Director and Partner at RW Pressprich, focused on the distribution of fixed income securities. Prior to RW Pressprich, Ms. Gilbert was Director in structured product sales at UBS and began her career at IBM. She received her B.S. in Industrial Engineering from the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign.Visit Hedgeye.com for more great investing content.Subscribe to other Hedgeye Products Here:The Call @ HedgeyeThe Macro ShowSignal Strength StocksTop StHedgeye Founder & CEO Keith McCullough's long-awaited new book, “Master The Market” is available now! In this 52-page e-book, Keith McCullough distills decades of Wall Street experience into actionable insights. Discover how to navigate market cycles, avoid major losses, and invest with the confidence of a seasoned pro. Download your free copy right now. Go to Hedgeye.com/book. That’s Hedgeye.com/book. Start generating alpha with our suite of “Sector Pro” investing research products. Dive deep into Retail, Industrials, Technology (and everything in between) with exclusive access to the sharpest analysts and actionable ideas on Wall Street. CLICK HERE to check out out product page. The Call @ Hedgeye is a live webcast that pulls back the curtain on the decision-making process of a world-class hedge fund. Our team of 40+ equity analysts join Hedgeye CEO Keith McCullough weekdays at 7:45am ET to discuss key market developments, trends and our high-conviction long and short investing ideas. You will not get this granular level of insight anywhere else. CLICK HERE to check out our product page. Turn off that tired “Old Wall” TV and tune into The Macro Show, Hedgeye’s live daily broadcast featuring key market and economic insights, investing implications and interactive viewer Q&A. See for yourself why more and more investors in the U.S. and abroad have made this “must-see” market TV. We are live online every weekday morning at 9:00am ET. CLICK HERE to check out our product page.

Hedgeye Macro analyst Ryan Ricci breaks down finance to its simplest form to help you build wealth over the long term. In this episode, Ryan and Ish discuss the pros and cons of owning vs. renting.Watch the video version on HedgeyeTV.com Go to Hedgeye.com for more investing insights. Hedgeye Founder & CEO Keith McCullough's long-awaited new book, “Master The Market” is available now! In this 52-page e-book, Keith McCullough distills decades of Wall Street experience into actionable insights. Discover how to navigate market cycles, avoid major losses, and invest with the confidence of a seasoned pro. Download your free copy right now. Go to Hedgeye.com/book. That’s Hedgeye.com/book. Start generating alpha with our suite of “Sector Pro” investing research products. Dive deep into Retail, Industrials, Technology (and everything in between) with exclusive access to the sharpest analysts and actionable ideas on Wall Street. CLICK HERE to check out out product page. The Call @ Hedgeye is a live webcast that pulls back the curtain on the decision-making process of a world-class hedge fund. Our team of 40+ equity analysts join Hedgeye CEO Keith McCullough weekdays at 7:45am ET to discuss key market developments, trends and our high-conviction long and short investing ideas. You will not get this granular level of insight anywhere else. CLICK HERE to check out our product page. Turn off that tired “Old Wall” TV and tune into The Macro Show, Hedgeye’s live daily broadcast featuring key market and economic insights, investing implications and interactive viewer Q&A. See for yourself why more and more investors in the U.S. and abroad have made this “must-see” market TV. We are live online every weekday morning at 9:00am ET. CLICK HERE to check out our product page.