Season Premiere! Little Bird Doctor + The Darker Side of “Wellness” with Kerrilyn Pamer (founder of CAP Beauty)

About this week’s guest: Marisa is a journalist and New York Times best selling author. She’s covered beauty, fashion, wellness, and celebrity for top national publications such as The New York Times, The New Yorker, The Guardian, The Wall Street Journal, Vogue, and Vanity Fair. She is the author of It Girl, Glossy, This Is Big, How Sassy Changed My Life, and Girl Power. Show notes! Sign up for the Virtual Group Session on October 26th Sign up for How To Make Your Podcast A Reality workshop This week’s sponsor: Semaine Use code INSIDEOUTSIDE20 for 20% off Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter The French Gardening Craze, 1908-1914 Horticulture, politics and the media in Edwardian Britain  Where you can find Marisa: Website Marisa’s IGIt Girl: The Life and Legacy of Jane BirkinGlossy: Ambition, Beauty, and the Inside Story of Emily Weiss's Glossier Irish Blood on Acorn TV Find your hardiness / growing zone here Learn To Grow Cool Season Flowers To advertise on the podcast: [email protected]

About this week’s guest: Kerrilyn is an author and founder of CAP Beauty. Show notes! Sign up for the Basker Virtual Group Session on October 26th This week’s sponsor: Semaine Use code INSIDEOUTSIDE20 for 20% off Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Where you can find Kerrilyn: CAP Beauty CAP Beauty IG Kerrilyn IG Serotoner Purina x Purple Leash Project Republicans Want to Ban Pets From Domestic Violence Shelters via Mother Jones Psychophysiological Responses of Cut Flower Fragrances as an Olfactory Stimulation by Measurement of Electroencephalogram in Adults Carnations! Seeds from Johnny’sPlants from Bluestone Perennials Stolen Focus: Why You Can't Pay Attention--and How to Think Deeply Again Find your hardiness / growing zone here Learn To Grow Cool Season Flowers To advertise on the podcast: [email protected]

About this week’s guest: Ally is a stylist and personal shopper. Her superpower is helping you find your style and the clothes to go with it. Show notes! This week’s sponsor: It’s Love Y’all   Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Where you can find Ally: Personal styling siteSubstack The Joy of birds: the effect of rating for joy or counting garden bird species on wellbeing, anxiety, and nature connection Birding With Benefits by Sarah T Dubbs DOC trailer Cut Flower Class at Redux Contemporary Art Center The Paper Canopy  Learn To Grow Cool Season Flowers To advertise on the podcast: [email protected]

Jules is a natural farmer, soil researcher, and garden educator based in New Orleans. His background includes school gardening, cannabis cultivation, worm-based composting & large-scale organic food production. He currently works at Rosy Soil where he formulates peat-free, biochar-based potting soils that are organic, high quality and sustainably produced.  Show notes! This week’s sponsor: It’s Love Y’all   Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Where you can find Jules: TikTok InstagramRosy Soil The Surprising Ways Soil Can Aid Our Mental Health Come by Here: A Memoir in Essays from Georgia's Geechee Coast by Neesha Powell-Ingabire Red Foliated White Cotton from Southern Exposure Seed Exchange No Dig Gardening Mole Cricket Find your hardiness / growing zone here Learn To Grow Cool Season Flowers

About this week’s guest: Ochuko is the writer and marketer behind as seen on, a newsletter about business, culture, and gen z trends. She lives between Lagos and Europe. Show notes! This week’s sponsor: Week Of The Website   Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Ochuko’s Newsletter: As Seen On Neighborhood attachment and its correlates: Exploring neighborhood conditions, collective efficacy, and gardening Find your hardiness / growing zone here Cool Season Cut Flower Sessions 

About this week’s guest: Michelle and her recipes have become a staple in home cooking around the globe since the publication of her first book in 2014 which was an instant #1 New York Times best-seller. She has 5 bestselling cookbooks, published in over 8 different languages.  She headed an award-winning brand, Bad Manners for 12 years and now heading up her own weekly newsletter, Stir the Pot. Show notes! This week’s sponsor: Week Of The Website   Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Michelle’s Book: Hungry As Hell (the book with the mac n’ cheese recipe!) Website Newsletter: Stir The PotIG Understanding Food Literacy in Urban Gardeners: A Case Study of the Twin Cities, Minnesota The Moth Snowstorm by Michael McCarthy One Of Them Days Find your hardiness / growing zone here Learn To Grow Cut Flowers

About this week’s guest: Karen Azoulay is a Canadian born, Brooklyn-based artist and author. Inspired by "feminine" motifs, she explores cultural phenomena that have historically been overlooked with the purpose of recontextualizing and championing them. Karen's projects have been featured in publications such as the New York Times, New Yorker, Hyperallergic, and Vogue. Her book Flowers and Their Meanings, The Secret Language and History of Over 600 Blooms was selected by Barnes & Noble as one of the best books of 2023.    Show notes! This week’s sponsor: Week Of The Website   Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Karen’s Book: Flowers and Their Meanings Website Newsletter: Flowers and Their MeaningsIG Observing versus creating flowers: a review of relevance for art therapy Gomprehna seeds Learn To Grow Cut Flowers

About this week’s guest: Barri Leiner Grant is a grief specialist and the founder of The Memory Circle for grief support – a place and space she created for those learning to live with loss. Her work has been featured in The Washington Post, Psychology Today, Maria Shriver’s Sunday Paper, on award winning podcasts, television appearances and radio shows. She frequently hosts retreats at The Omega Institute and Kripalu Center. Show notes! This week’s sponsor: Jena Burton Wellness Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Barri’s: Website: The Memory Circle Newsletter: (permission GRANTed) Upcoming Events: Conscious Grieving Retreat Living With Loss: Support GroupIG Growing Grief: Cultivating Life After Death in the Garden by Avril Tynan My Mom Jayne The Gentle Art of Swedish Death Cleaning The Beauty of What Remains and For You When I’m Gone by Steve Leder

About this week’s guest: Emily Fiffer is a restaurant owner (Botanica, in Silverlake) and writer (read, eat, repeat) living in LA. Show notes! This week’s sponsor: Jena Burton Wellness Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Emily’s: Restaurant: Botanica Botanica’s Online ShopNewsletter (read, eat, repeat) Prospect + Refuge Theory The Cazalet Chronicles by Elizabeth Jane Howard Doppelganger by Naomi Klein Slipsteam by Elizabeth Jane Howard 

About this week’s guest: Laura Wright is the founder of The First Mess, a blog for plant-based recipe inspiration as well as a of cookbook of the same name. Hailing from the Niagara region of southern Ontario, Laura enjoys taking on way too many projects in the garden, hiking with her dogs, working on a weekly feel-good newsletter, dilly dallying, and doing pretty much any offline activity. Show notes! This week’s sponsor: Personal Business Podcast Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Laura’s: Website: The First Mess Newsletter Book: The First MessIG Study: Prescribing Nature for Human Health: An Examination of Public Interest, Barriers, and Enablers Related to Nature Prescription Programming in Canada Crispy & Chewy Air Fryer Edamame The Menopause Brain by Dr. Lisa Mosconi Learn To Grow Cut Flowers