How to Build a Business That Grows Without You – with Olivier Roland

Most people build a business because they want to experience more freedom. But something strange can happen along the way…   The more the business grows, the more freedom disappears… leaving them feeling trapped.   And if you feel like you can't step away from your business… or feel like it's slowly taken over your life, this might have happened to you.   This episode will help get you out.   Olivier Roland is one of the most original thinkers I know. And he has a different way of thinking about the freedom business… and why so many entrepreneurs end up trapped.   In this conversation, he shares some simple shifts you can make so your business runs without you needing to be constantly working it, including:   A simple question that instantly tells you if you're getting closer to freedom… or further away  Why being more productive can make you feel MORE trapped… not less  Why the first step to finding more free time might be found in the woods or a ski lift – not a productivity book How your cellphone can help you experience more freedom – and longer vacations (and no, it's not taking social calls on the beach)   … and more.   Olivier's advice is simple AND super actionable…   The kind of advice that could take you from feeling like you have to do everything… to having a business that grows – even when you're not there.   If more freedom was the reason you got into business, check out this conversation…   - - -  Dare To Launch Bonuses: https://getyoulaunched.com/  Want to launch or grow your business – faster? Grab my FREE Launch Quickstart – my high-impact, actionable training for building a business you love 👉 https://productlaunchformula.com/    - - -  Hear more from Jeff Walker on…  YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@productlaunch  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffwalkerco  Threads: https://www.threads.net/@jeffwalkerco     Resources Referenced in the episode:  Got a question for us?  Go to DaretoLaunchShow.com to submit a voicemail with your question, and you might hear the answer on one of our next episodes! THANKS FOR TUNING IN! If you enjoyed this week's show, don't forget to hit the "follow" button. Not only is it totally free, it guarantees you never miss out on future episodes. Think you know someone who would enjoy this episode? Do them a favor and share it with them. Also, please consider leaving us a quick review. It only takes a few seconds, but your review makes all the difference in helping us get the show out to more business owners. And who knows… we might even read your review on the show!  

In my community, we have this thing called "launchlife."   Launchlife means building a business that supports and fits around your life and your goals… rather than the other way around.   Everyone's launchlife is different.    And it doesn't matter what yours looks like… just that you actually have one.   Because to me, this is what building a business is really about.   So… what does your launchlife look like?   Maybe you have an idea of how much you want to make… or a place you'd like to live… or some "bucket list" experiences you'd tick off the list…   To give you some inspiration, I sat down with Jeff Noble.   Jeff runs Noble Initiatives – a groundbreaking organization that supports families affected by fetal alcohol spectrum disorder (FASD).    And he embodies the idea of living a launchlife more than most.    In this conversation, he talks about freedom and money, sure.    But he also touches on some things most people wouldn't expect – like grief, responsibility, and being present when life happens.   Launchlife is more than just becoming a billionaire.    It's about building a truly rich life.   If you want to do that, this episode is for you. - - -  new CTAs   Dare to Launch Free Bonuses found at: LINK  Want to launch or grow your business – faster? Grab my FREE Launch Quickstart – my high-impact, actionable training for building a business you love 👉 https://productlaunchformula.com/    - - -  Hear more from Jeff Walker on…  YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@productlaunch  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffwalkerco  Threads: https://www.threads.net/@jeffwalkerco     Resources Referenced in the episode:    Got a question for us?  Go to DaretoLaunchShow.com to submit a voicemail with your question, and you might hear the answer on one of our next episodes!   THANKS FOR TUNING IN! If you enjoyed this week's show, don't forget to hit the "follow" button. Not only is it totally free, it guarantees you never miss out on future episodes.   Think you know someone who would enjoy this episode? Do them a favor and share it with them. Also, please consider leaving us a quick review. It only takes a few seconds, but your review makes all the difference in helping us get the show out to more business owners. And who knows… we might even read your review on the show!  

Want to launch or grow your business – faster? Grab my FREE Launch Quickstart – my high-impact, actionable training for building a business you love 👉 https://getyoulaunched.com/  - - -  There are no "easy" sales anymore…   The days when you could fire off a quick post and make some sales are gone.   Attention is expensive and customers have gotten skeptical.   So, yes… it's more competitive. But that doesn't have to mean we're now playing on "hard" mode…   It just means we have to raise our game.   The best way to do that is by getting good at marketing.    I'm not talking about overblown tricks, hype, or social media faking…   I'm talking about real marketing – being able to attract the right people, make a compelling offer, and get paid for the transformation you create.   When you get good at marketing, you can create your own economy.    And in shaky times, being able to rise above what's going on in the world so you can maximize the impact you create might be one of the most important things you can do.   And if you think marketing is sleazy or icky… you've only seen bad marketing.   This is what REAL marketing looks like…   Hear more from Jeff Walker on…  YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@productlaunch  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffwalkerco  Threads: https://www.threads.net/@jeffwalkerco     Resources Referenced in the episode:    Got a question for us?  Go to DaretoLaunchShow.com to submit a voicemail with your question, and you might hear the answer on one of our next episodes!   THANKS FOR TUNING IN! If you enjoyed this week's show, don't forget to hit the "follow" button. Not only is it totally free, it guarantees you never miss out on future episodes.   Think you know someone who would enjoy this episode? Do them a favor and share it with them. Also, please consider leaving us a quick review. It only takes a few seconds, but your review makes all the difference in helping us get the show out to more business owners. And who knows… we might even read your review on the show!  

Launching is one of the best ways of building an email list. But… what if you don't have an audience?   How do you get those first few hundred subscribers?   If you've ever built an audience from scratch, you'll know this can be a slow grind. It can feel like a rocket launch – it takes a ton of energy just to get off the ground.    But what if there was a path that got you over that initial hump – so you go from zero to 100, 200… or even 300 subscribers – without it feeling like a battle?   Because once you hit those numbers… that's when momentum kicks in… and things start to accelerate.   In this week's episode of Dare to Launch, we sit down with Stenya St Clair and Nicola López Rabkin of Matriarchy Biz who share the simple strategy they used – and teach their clients – to build an audience from scratch.   This could be the difference between getting 2 or 3 new leads a month… to getting 2 or 3 hundred.   They also get into:   How to go from 0-300 perfect fit subscribers in weeks, rather than months. The failure penalty that women face more than men – and how to avoid it How Stenya turned $650 into $7500 with just one Prelaunch lead generation campaign The "backward" mistake entrepreneurs make with lead magnets… and how to fix it Why posting on social media isn't enough anymore (and why Nicola often advises clients to STOP posting on Instagram) Why most entrepreneurs start with a low ticket offer – and why this is often a huge mistake The reason 1-to-1 offers are perfect for first time launches (and why selling just 1 or 2 spots in your launch is actually a good thing)   … and much more.   Plus – Nicola and Stenya walk us through the metrics they focus on for their clients – what to track, what they look for, and the benchmarks you should be aiming for in your campaigns.   (Grab a pen and paper, so you can go through your data)   Whether you want to build an audience of aligned, perfect fit customers… or you want to skip the overwhelm and get straight down to the lead gen tactics that work…   … this episode is filled with super practical and actionable strategies you can use. - - -  Dare to Launch Free Bonuses found at: https://getyoulaunched.com  Want to launch or grow your business – faster? Grab my FREE Launch Quickstart – my high-impact, actionable training for building a business you love 👉 https://productlaunchformula.com/    - - - 

Dare to Launch Free Bonuses found at: https://getyoulaunched.com/  - - -  It's easy to think "I only teach knitting…" or "I'm only helping people choose better outfits…"   But in case nobody's told you lately…   What you do matters. More than you think.   And in this clip from Dare to Launch, I talk about the moment I finally understood that – and why you should NEVER underestimate the value you create.   Because it took me far too long to learn this lesson…   In 12 years, I went from dreaming about making $10k in a year… to earning $1MM in 53 minutes.   I hit all my financial goals… and it sent me into a tailspin, questioning what my life was really about.   I went to Tony Robbins events, yoga retreats, and meditation workshops…   (It seems I was a slow study.)   Eventually, I realized it was never about the money – it was about impact… helping entrepreneurs like you share their wisdom.   Because here's what you might be missing…   Our work creates ripples. Ripples that go further than we can see.   That's why I think entrepreneurs are the future of humanity – even if you're "only" teaching someone how to play the guitar, write a story, or cook a meal…   Don't sell yourself short.    Here's why you're making a bigger difference than you realize… - - -    Want to launch or grow your business – faster? Grab my FREE Launch Quickstart – my high-impact, actionable training for building a business you love 👉 https://productlaunchformula.com/    - - -  Hear more from Jeff Walker on…  YouTube:  http://www.youtube.com/@productlaunch  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffwalkerco  Threads: https://www.threads.net/@jeffwalkerco     Resources Referenced in the episode:    Got a question for us?  Go to DaretoLaunchShow.com to submit a voicemail with your question, and you might hear the answer on one of our next episodes!   THANKS FOR TUNING IN! If you enjoyed this week's show, don't forget to hit the "follow" button. Not only is it totally free, it guarantees you never miss out on future episodes.   Think you know someone who would enjoy this episode? Do them a favor and share it with them. Also, please consider leaving us a quick review. It only takes a few seconds, but your review makes all the difference in helping us get the show out to more business owners. And who knows… we might even read your review on the show!  

Want to launch or grow your business – faster? Grab my FREE Launch Quickstart – my high-impact, actionable training for building a business you love 👉 https://getyoulaunched.com/    - - -  You can have the best product, the perfect strategy, and your messaging dialed in… and still blow it all in five seconds.   We've all had "why did I do that?" moments – when we react to something in a panic… only to later regret it.   This is why mindset is everything for entrepreneurs…   Every time you go into fight or flight, your brain doesn't see a problem to be solved… it sees a threat to be dodged.   And that's when panic and overwhelm kick in… and your best thinking disappears. But what if you could step into that moment and stop your brain from getting hijacked?   You'd be able to access all the good stuff – you'd make better decisions… solve problems quickly and effectively… and unlock new levels of creativity…   It'd be like taking a "Limitless" pill.    Truth is, you can't serve your people when you're stuck in survival mode. That's why you need a battle plan for handling tough moments.   And you're in luck…   Because in this week's clip from Dare to Launch, Annie Hyman Pratt gives us four simple steps for taking back control when it matters.   This quick listen could save you from making a costly mistake…   - - -    Hear more from Jeff Walker on…  YouTube:  http://www.youtube.com/@productlaunch  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffwalkerco  Threads: https://www.threads.net/@jeffwalkerco     Resources Referenced in the episode:    Got a question for us?  Go to DaretoLaunchShow.com to submit a voicemail with your question, and you might hear the answer on one of our next episodes!   THANKS FOR TUNING IN! If you enjoyed this week's show, don't forget to hit the "follow" button. Not only is it totally free, it guarantees you never miss out on future episodes.   Think you know someone who would enjoy this episode? Do them a favor and share it with them. Also, please consider leaving us a quick review. It only takes a few seconds, but your review makes all the difference in helping us get the show out to more business owners. And who knows… we might even read your review on the show!  

Join our next event at: https://getyoulaunched.com/  When a book publisher turned her down, Sandra Angelo didn't argue… Instead, she printed her book at Kinko's, put it in a Ziploc bag… and sold it for $10. That "rejected" book went on to make her over $1.2MM. (And yes, that publisher came crawling back years later!) Today, Sandra makes 7-figures a year teaching folks how to go from drawing stick figures to gallery-level art in months… rather than years. She gets results – fast.  But she's not making 7 figures because she's built a gigantic audience… Sandra's super picky about who she works with. So she's gotten really, really good at generating huge launches from tiny lists.  And in this episode of Dare to Launch, she talks about how she does that. We also get into: How she sold over $1.2MM worth of books – despite being went rejected by every publisher Why "I don't have a big list" and "who am I to teach?" shouldn't hold you back Her approach to compressing time that gets her students results – fast How she made six-figures in one year – while recovering from a near fatal medical mistake Why not going "by the book" landed her 14 prestigious commissions (worth thousands of dollars) How she rebuilt everything from scratch when her life burned to the ground (literally!) The one article that triggered "eleventy billion calls" and $60k in sales in just four days (including the magic photo that made all the difference) … and more. This is a fun conversation… and Sandra's story is truly amazing… and inspiring. She busts a lot of myths about what it takes to succeed. (And if you've been sitting on an idea you haven't launched yet… you'll definitely want to hear the story about how inaction cost Sandra $600,000…) - - -  Want to launch or grow your business – faster? Grab my FREE Launch Quickstart – my high-impact, actionable training for building a business you love 👉 https://productlaunchformula.com/    - - -  Hear more from Jeff Walker on…  YouTube:  http://www.youtube.com/@productlaunch  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffwalkerco  Threads: https://www.threads.net/@jeffwalkerco     Resources Referenced in the episode:    Got a question for us?  Go to DaretoLaunchShow.com to submit a voicemail with your question, and you might hear the answer on one of our next episodes!   THANKS FOR TUNING IN! If you enjoyed this week's show, don't forget to hit the "follow" button. Not only is it totally free, it guarantees you never miss out on future episodes.   Think you know someone who would enjoy this episode? Do them a favor and share it with them. Also, please consider leaving us a quick review. It only takes a few seconds, but your review makes all the difference in helping us get the show out to more business owners. And who knows… we might even read your review on the show!  

Build Your Next Launch Fast at https://getyoulaunched.com  Want to launch or grow your business – faster? Grab my FREE Launch Quickstart – my high-impact, actionable training for building a business you love 👉 https://productlaunchformula.com/  - - -  Hear more from Jeff Walker on…  YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@productlaunch  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffwalkerco  Threads: https://www.threads.net/@jeffwalkerco   ABOUT TODAY'S EPISODE  I've got more in common with Star-Lord (the character from the "Guardians of the Galaxy" movies) than I should probably admit… OK, so I don't have a laser blaster… or a spaceship (yet!). But like him, I definitely didn't look like the guy to bet on at the start… I was a stay-at-home dad with a failed corporate career who hadn't made a dime in six years. So if you were looking for someone who would go on to save the galaxy make over $100MM in sales… you probably wouldn't have picked me. Same goes for my good friend Elliott Connie… Elliott started out with a front row seat to a rough life. He was about as far away from a happy, contented, confident life as you can imagine… But now he's a world-renowned author, speaker, podcaster who's helped thousands of people… and he's just landed his own network TV show. Like Star-Lord and his crew of misfits, we might not be the smartest, flashiest, or the obvious picks to win… But we won anyway! And that's the thing – you don't need to be perfect to succeed in this game. Like Elliott and me, you can create something awesome… even when no one else gives you a chance. Let's get into how to do that during a quick "taco break"… Got a question for us?  Go to DaretoLaunchShow.com to submit a voicemail with your question, and you might hear the answer on one of our next episodes! THANKS FOR TUNING IN! If you enjoyed this week's show, don't forget to hit the "follow" button. Not only is it totally free, it guarantees you never miss out on future episodes. Think you know someone who would enjoy this episode? Do them a favor and share it with them. Also, please consider leaving us a quick review. It only takes a few seconds, but your review makes all the difference in helping us get the show out to more business owners. And who knows… we might even read your review on the show!  

If last year felt kinda weird – that's because it was weird.    Conversions dropped. Engagement tanked – 2025 was a tough year to be a business owner.    So let's dig into some of the practical, tactical changes we're making this year.   And not just me…   In this week's episode of Dare to Launch, we're joined by Emma and Eleanor from The Reconnected.   They've done numerous seven-figure launches – and generated over A$10MM in a little over five years…    … but they also experienced a ton of challenges last year – challenges that affected pretty much every business owner (and a few crazy ones that didn't!).   Together, we break down the big shifts we saw in 2025… and what we're doubling down on over the next 12 months…   (Things you should be doubling down on too.)   We get into:   How to pull off a six- or seven-figure launch – from your bed (Emma actually did this last year – it's a crazy story) The "Middle G" problem that was quietly costing them sales from their best customers Why charging for your free content could increase your show-up rates… and your sales The "real time vibe checks" their team track more than clicks and opens Why their best email strategy was also their big blindspot Why "I can't afford it" is rarely the true objection… and how to find the real reason your customers aren't buying The Slack channel that every member of their team watches during a launch How they get their customers to improve their messaging and write better copy… without them even knowing about it   … and more.   There's been some big shifts over the past year. But this isn't doom and gloom…   Customers are still buying.    People are still looking for real human beings to help them.   It's still an awesome time to be an entrepreneur.   This episode will help you show up and serve your people in a BIG way (and make it easier for them to say yes)... - - -  new CTAs     Here's whats going on in our community right now! https://getyoulaunched.com  Want to launch or grow your business – faster? Grab my FREE Launch Quickstart – my high-impact, actionable training for building a business you love 👉 https://productlaunchformula.com/    - - -  Hear more from Jeff Walker on…  YouTube:  http://www.youtube.com/@productlaunch  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffwalkerco  Threads: https://www.threads.net/@jeffwalkerco     Resources Referenced in the episode:    Got a question for us?  Go to DaretoLaunchShow.com to submit a voicemail with your question, and you might hear the answer on one of our next episodes!   THANKS FOR TUNING IN! If you enjoyed this week's show, don't forget to hit the "follow" button. Not only is it totally free, it guarantees you never miss out on future episodes.   Think you know someone who would enjoy this episode? Do them a favor and share it with them. Also, please consider leaving us a quick review. It only takes a few seconds, but your review makes all the difference in helping us get the show out to more business owners. And who knows… we might even read your review on the show!  

My friend Pat Flynn just shared a great solution for the "succeed without burning yourself out" problem.    And this might be one of the best skills you can learn…   It's no secret I'm not hustle culture's biggest fan.    Sure, there are times when you need to push the pedal to the floor. But there's only so much pushing you can do before you burn out.   Trouble is, by the time you're smelling smoke… it's too late.   That's where Pat's technique comes in…   It's called a "Power 10." And it's something he learned in college to get ahead without hitting the wall.   (Pat also used it recently to finish writing his book in just 10 days… without sacrificing family time.)   Here's what's cool – once he explains it, you'll see how you can apply it to any area of your life – not just your business.   Here's Pat to walk you through it… - - -  Level up your conversions at Conversion Intensive https://getyoulaunched.com    Dare to Launch Free Bonuses found at: LINK  Want to launch or grow your business – faster? Grab my FREE Launch Quickstart – my high-impact, actionable training for building a business you love 👉 https://productlaunchformula.com/    - - -  Hear more from Jeff Walker on…  YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@productlaunch  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffwalkerco  Threads: https://www.threads.net/@jeffwalkerco     Resources Referenced in the episode:    Got a question for us?  Go to DaretoLaunchShow.com to submit a voicemail with your question, and you might hear the answer on one of our next episodes!   THANKS FOR TUNING IN! If you enjoyed this week's show, don't forget to hit the "follow" button. Not only is it totally free, it guarantees you never miss out on future episodes.   Think you know someone who would enjoy this episode? Do them a favor and share it with them. Also, please consider leaving us a quick review. It only takes a few seconds, but your review makes all the difference in helping us get the show out to more business owners. And who knows… we might even read your review on the show!