Ep. #1032: Caged Animals

Ed Kuepper and Jim White return to discuss their remarkable debut album, After the Flood, their recent Australian tour, when Ed played a show with Dirty Three in 1994 and became enamoured with Jim’s playing, the massive role Ed’s bands played in Jim’s development as a young drummer, revisiting and recording some of Ed’s songs in the Saints, Laughing Clowns, and from his solo albums, the lively, live-off-the-floor sound of their first album, plans to make another one, North American shows in November 2025, other future plans, and much more.EVERY OTHER COMPLETE KREATIVE KONTROL EPISODE IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO PATREON SUPPORTERS STARTING AT $6/MONTH. This one is fine, but if you haven’t already, please subscribe now on Patreon so you never miss full episodes. Thanks!Thanks to the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad’s Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S., Pride Centre of Edmonton, and Letters Charity. Follow vish online.Related episodes/links:Ep. #998: Nina NastasiaEp. #987: Tropical Fuck StormEp. #922: The Saints ’73-’78Ep. #910: The Hard QuartetEp. #866: Jim White and Marisa AndersonEp. #849: Jim White and Guy PicciottoEp. #768: Guy Picciotto & Xylouris WhiteSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/kreative-kontrol. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sean Wilentz is here to discuss co-producing Bob Dylan’s Bootleg Series Volume 18: Through The Open Window, 1956-1963, New Jersey and New York City, his family’s roots in the 1960s Greenwich Village folk community, his Bob Dylan fandom origins, why he was asked to helm this volume, write its liner notes, and what he learned about Dylan, the variety of Dylan’s voices and gifts as a music interpreter, the evolution of recording technology and live bootlegs, our experiences at the Bob Dylan Center in Tulsa, OK, the subtlety of Dylan’s political songs, this era of Dylan’s music and the recent film, A Complete Unknown, Dylan using social media, Sean’s next book, the Court of History podcast, and much more.EVERY OTHER COMPLETE KREATIVE KONTROL EPISODE IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO PATREON SUPPORTERS STARTING AT $6/MONTH. Enjoy this excerpt and please subscribe now via this link to hear this full episode. Thanks!Thanks to the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad’s Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S., Pride Centre of Edmonton, and Letters Charity. Follow vish online.Related episodes/links:Bob Dylan's 'Through the Open Window: The Bootleg Series, Vol. 18' Is Ground ZeroEp. #1005: Brian FauteuxEp. #935: Elijah Wald on ‘A Complete Unknown’Ep. #828: ‘Bob Dylan: Mixing Up the Medicine’ with Mark Davidson & Parker FishelIn Review: ‘Fragments: Time Out of Mind Sessions (1996-1997) – The Bootleg Series Vol. 17’ by Bob DylanEp. #793: Ray PadgettEp. #749: Daniel LanoisEp. #27: Greil MarcusSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/kreative-kontrol. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Shad returns to discuss his new album Start Anew, the connections between its title and his 2005 debut, When This is Over, and a Hayden song, persona, the person, and ego death, yearning for challenges in life and creative work, conquering the fear of stories ending, anti-capitalism, technocracy, and the fact that the inventor of A.I. believes there’s a small chance it might kill all of us and people are ignoring him, the devaluation of music, addiction and smartphones, ending another musical chapter, touring, other future plans, and much more!EVERY OTHER COMPLETE KREATIVE KONTROL EPISODE IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO PATREON SUPPORTERS STARTING AT $6/MONTH. This one is fine, but if you haven’t already, please subscribe now on Patreon so you never miss full episodes. Thanks!Thanks to Blackbyrd Myoozik, the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad’s Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S., Pride Centre of Edmonton, and Letters Charity. Follow vish online.Related episodes/links:All Things Konsidered: ‘Let God Sort ‘Em Out’ by ClipseEp. #765: HaydenEp. #640: ShadEp. #566: Tim HeideckerEp. #527: Shad and Darby Wheeler from Hip-Hop EvolutionEp. #461: ShadEp. #325: Is rock music dead? Long Night with Carl Wilson, Shad, and Weaves’ Jasmyn BurkeEp. #244: Long Night with Shad, Sloan’s Jay Ferguson & Patrick Pentland, Caitlin Durlak, So Long Seven, & Bobby RuinEp. #44: ShadSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/kreative-kontrol. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Vincent Cacchione from Caged Animals is here to discuss the band’s new album Make Strange Friends, our encounter at Sappyfest this past summer, his move from Brooklyn to Canada and why he loves it here, working with Jon Mckiel, his work as a podcast producer, the unique radio play that ends the new album and features the esteemed writer, Larry “Ratso” Sloman, how his parents’ work in comedy, theatre, and education have shaped his own path, Sackville’s Drama Queenz and Bruce Springsteen’s Nebraska, loving John K. Samson, writing new songs, tour dates, other future plans, and much more.EVERY OTHER COMPLETE KREATIVE KONTROL EPISODE IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO PATREON SUPPORTERS STARTING AT $6/MONTH. Enjoy this excerpt and please subscribe now via this link to hear this full episode. Thanks!Thanks to the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad’s Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S., Pride Centre of Edmonton, and Letters Charity. Follow vish online.Related episodes/links:Ep. #1023: Cate Le BonEp. #862: Jon MckielEp. #706: JOYFULTALKEp. #682: Steven LambkeNick Cave (2009) – TeaserKreative ExKlusive #6: Hal Willner (2006)Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/kreative-kontrol. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Tony Hobbs subscribes to Kreative Kontrol on Patreon at a monthly tier that offers people a chance to appear on this show and talk about things that might be relevant to its audience and wide-ranging interests. Tony’s here to discuss Lot Miracles, a limited-edition zine series he helped launch that is inspired by the music, art, and community surrounding the Grateful Dead, and features a new curator and charitable beneficiary (i.e. the National Alliance on Mental Illness, Planned Parenthood), for each edition. Lot Miracles Issue 3 was curated by @felixheads, benefits the Divided Sky Foundation in honour of Brian Eddleman, and can be pre-ordered until October 31, 2025.EVERY OTHER COMPLETE KREATIVE KONTROL EPISODE IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO PATREON SUPPORTERS STARTING AT $6/MONTH. This one is fine, but if you haven’t already, please subscribe now on Patreon so you never miss full episodes. Thanks!Related links:Ep. #1019: FriendshipEp. #978: FoxwarrenEp. #847: RosaliEp. #813: Marc MastersIn Review: ‘Fragments: Time Out of Mind Sessions (1996-1997) – The Bootleg Series Vol. 17’ by Bob DylanEp. #692: WilcoEp. #266: William TylerSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/kreative-kontrol. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Leanne Betasamosake Simpson returns to discuss her new album Live Like the Sky, why people are so often air unaware, her book Theory of Water and how a world ending means a new one is beginning, the concept of generative refusal, lakes, oceans, skiing, running, and surfing, holding a tape recorder up to a car radio speaker to capture underground rock music in the 1980s and how those new wave and post-punk sounds inform this new record, learning to sing and making music that is fun even though the lyrics are heavy, touring, a new book, other future plans, and much more.EVERY OTHER COMPLETE KREATIVE KONTROL EPISODE IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO PATREON SUPPORTERS STARTING AT $6/MONTH. This one is fine, but if you haven’t already, please subscribe now on Patreon so you never miss full episodes. Thanks!Thanks to the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad’s Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S., Pride Centre of Edmonton, and Letters Charity. Follow vish online.Related episodes/links:Leanne Betasamosake Simpson Pushes Through Struggle to Celebrate Small VictoriesEp. #1011: Saul WilliamsEp. #742: Leanne Betasamosake SimpsonEp. #682: Steven LambkeEp. #599: Leanne Betasamosake SimpsonEp. #205: Nick FerrioSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/kreative-kontrol. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Andrew Mazerolle from Muncho is here to discuss his new album Is This Something?, life on both the east and west coasts of Canada, Muncho Joe and Munchos, the fried potato snack, singing in church and getting into Christian ska as a kid, falling in love with the Beatles, why Maritimes bands have such an affinity for 1960s Brit-pop, why he enjoys the limitations of four-track recording and being a one-man operation, video rental stores and the internet, writing new songs, other future plans, and much more.EVERY OTHER COMPLETE KREATIVE KONTROL EPISODE IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO PATREON SUPPORTERS STARTING AT $6/MONTH. Enjoy this excerpt and please subscribe now via this link to hear this full episode. Thanks!Thanks to the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad’s Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S., Pride Centre of Edmonton, and Letters Charity. Follow vish online.Related episodes/links:Ep. #942: Nap EyesEp. #889: Rick White and The SadiesEp. #885: LaughingEp. #880: Guided By VoicesEp. #725: SloanEp. #603: TUNSEp. #110: Josh Salter & Matt Peters of MonomythEp. #13: Sloan’s Jay Ferguson & Chris Murphy & Photographer Catherine StockhausenSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/kreative-kontrol. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Julianna Riolino returns to discuss her excellent new album, Echo in the Dust, hanging out in her childhood bedroom and reflecting upon life with our respective parents, being a particularly sensitive person and artist, existentialism, pondering the universe, and billionaires who wish to escape Earth, reflecting upon her time in and outside of Daniel Romano’s Outfit, theatricality on the new record that may stem from her youth as a drama kid, growth and heights, music production approaches, the Beatles and the Who, writing new songs, touring, other future plans, and much more.EVERY OTHER COMPLETE KREATIVE KONTROL EPISODE IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO PATREON SUPPORTERS STARTING AT $6/MONTH. This one is fine, but if you haven’t already, please subscribe now on Patreon so you never miss full episodes. Thanks!Thanks to Blackbyrd Myoozik, the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad’s Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S., Pride Centre of Edmonton, and Letters Charity. Follow vish online.Related episodes/links:All Things Konsidered: ‘Let God Sort ‘Em Out’ by ClipseEp. #850: You’ve Changed Records is 15!Ep. #823: EspanolaEp. #724: Julianna RiolinoKreative ExcKlusive #16: William Shatner (2011)Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/kreative-kontrol. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Carlyn Bezic from Jane Inc. returns to discuss her deeply personal new album, A RUPTURE A CANYON A BIRTH, moving up in the world in her Toronto home, the end of a long-term relationship and beginning a new one, a life-changing near-death experience on the road, being diagnosed with cancer and how overcoming it gave her a greater appreciation for joy and grace, the emergence of her Jane Inc. alter-ego, allusions to Nadine Gordimer and David Cronenberg, pondering the music industry, a Toronto record release show at Baby G on December 12, other future plans, and much more.EVERY OTHER COMPLETE KREATIVE KONTROL EPISODE IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO PATREON SUPPORTERS STARTING AT $6/MONTH. Enjoy this excerpt and please subscribe now via this link to hear this full episode. Thanks!Thanks to the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad’s Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S., Pride Centre of Edmonton, and Letters Charity. Follow vish online.Related episodes/links:Ep. #1019: FriendshipEp. #988: U.S. GirlsEp. #923: Dorothea PaasEp. #833: NYSSAEp. #814: Badge Époque Ensemble / Symphony OrchestraEp. #681: Jane Inc.Ep. #510: Ice CreamSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/kreative-kontrol. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jasamine White-Gluz from No Joy is here to discuss their latest album Bugland, patios, porches, decks, and why she moved outside of Montreal, her Gord Downie-like penchant for placing the same lyrics in different songs, a shared affection for Canadian music television in the 1990s, representation, laziness, and making an effort to be a decent person to other people, a brief history of No Joy and why she always thinks it’s done after every record, working with Fire-Toolz, tour dates, other future plans, and much more.EVERY OTHER COMPLETE KREATIVE KONTROL EPISODE IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO PATREON SUPPORTERS STARTING AT $6/MONTH. This one is fine, but if you haven’t already, please subscribe now on Patreon so you never miss full episodes. Thanks!Thanks to the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad’s Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S., Pride Centre of Edmonton, and Letters Charity. Follow vish online.Related episodes/links:Ep. #996: Bibi ClubEp. #862: Jon MckielEp. #606: Sook-Yin LeeEp. #399: SuunsEp. #364: Walter Shreifels of Dead Heavens, QuicksandEp. #296: Christopher WardSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/kreative-kontrol. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.