Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan: A Tale of Two Sisters - No Good Deed

Jurors heard explosive testimony about alleged drugging and humiliating encounters during the trial of twins Oren and Alon Alexander and their older brother Tal.  The defense maintained the brothers innocence throughout.  Oren and Alon Alexander and brother Tal faced an original 12-count indictment for sex trafficking, sexual abuse, and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking. Some counts were dropped.  Now the jury returns a guilty verdict.  They face life in prison.  The three brothers come from a high-profile real estate background. Tal and Oren brokered a $47 million deal for their father in 2012 and a $240 million Manhattan condo sale in 2019. Alon attended law school before joining the family's private security company, Kent Security. Each brother has been accused of forcible rape by at least 10 women. All three are indicted on federal sex trafficking charges, while Oren and Alon also face sexual battery charges in Florida. The Alexanders have denied the allegations in civil cases, with their representatives suggesting the accusers are attempting to extort them. Court documents detail accounts from alleged victims. "Victim-1" claims she was raped by Tal Alexander and other men in 2021 at a home in the Hamptons. She says she felt unwell after drinking a glass of wine, then recalled Tal holding her down as another man entered the room. She later woke up in a separate room, where a camcorder was set up. Another alleged victim, referred to as "Victim-2," told investigators that Oren raped her. She says Oren gave her a cocktail, after which she felt strange and struggled to walk. Alon then took her to a bedroom to lie down. She recalls waking up to find Oren in the room. He allegedly pulled down her bathing suit and raped her while she was "physically impaired and could not move."  Joining Nancy Grace today: Neama Rahmani – Former Federal Prosecutor-turned-Trial Attorney; Author: “Harvard to Hashtag;” INSTAGRAM: @Neamarahmani/ X: @NeamaRahmani Caryn L. Stark – Psychologist, Renowned TV and Radio Trauma Expert and Consultant; Instagram: carynpsych/FB: Caryn Stark Private Practice Bill Daly – Former FBI Investigator and Forensic Photography, Security Expert Lynn Shaw - Founder and Executive Director of Lynn’s Warriors  Host of Lynn’s Warriors on YouTube;  X: @lynns_warriors Youtube: @LynnsWarriors Christina Aguayo – National News Anchor, Salem News Channel; Facebook: @ChristinaAguayoNews, Instagram: @Christina.AguayoNew  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is a tale of two sisters, Karen and Debra. Karen is loving, responsible, and well-liked by all who know her. She lived with and cared for her parents until they lost their battles with Alzheimer's and cancer. Karen also took care of her finances and was financially well-off for retirement. Debra was gone for decades, living several states away in Louisiana. She never held a steady job and never had any money. When their parents died, Debra moved back to Florida, with no money and no place to stay, and Karen let her sister move into her home. Karen ends up wrapped in a trash bag, dumped in a hole in her backyard, a bullet in her chest. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack dig into the story.   Transcribe Highlights 00:00.15 Introduction  02:10.97 Victim loves working in her yard 05:06.55 Two sisters, Karen and Debra 08:25.53 Debra comes back after parents die 12:14.34 Perp keeping victim close after death 16:55.11 Seeing a hole in the yard 20:57.88 Odor of decomposing body 25:33.91 Bad smell doesn't mean something is there 29:48.57 Very careful digging to not miss anything 35:07.70 Everything goes to the lab 40:27.15 Karen has one GSW to the chest 44:43.54 Debra claims she is "blameless" 45:28.45 ConclusionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Breaking crime news as it happens throughout the day! Follow "Crime Alert Hourly Update" now on your favorite podcast app: https://link.chtbl.com/Crime_Alert Here's some of our top stories this week: An Alabama teen steps up when father allegedly tries to hurt a woman in their home.  A nurse's birthday surprise for his married mistress, turns into a bloodbath.  A nine-year-old Detroit student says a substitute teacher hit him and ordered other children to attack him inside a classroom on the city’s west side, leaving him injured and afraid to return to school. Missing NC teen found in car with 37‑year‑old man during traffic stop. Stay informed, stay safe, and stay ahead with "Crime Alert Hourly Update.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The investigation into the disappearance of 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie remains active and ongoing. Forty-two days have passed since the grandmother was last seen, with officials still pursuing leads and analyzing DNA evidence. So far, though, no specific suspects or persons of interest have been publicly named. The Pima County Sheriff's Department has scaled back some efforts, such as the use of cadaver dogs, but Sheriff Nanos says they will be brought back in if necessary. The family is offering a $1 million reward. The FBI is seeking tips regarding the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie and urges the public to call 1-800-CALL-FBI or submit information online at tips.fbi.gov.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Shannon O'Connor throws wild parties for her teenage sons at their Los Gatos, California mansion. O'Connor pressures teens as young as 13 to binge drink, smoke marijuana, and perform sex acts with each other, 'consensual' or not, while she watches. O'Connor keeps the parties a secret from other parents and her own husband, even continuing them at a new address in Idaho. O'Connor now awaits sentencing after being convicted on many of the 39 felony charges, including child endangerment and sexual battery. Joining Nancy Grace Today: Sam Dordulian - Sexual Assault Attorney, Former Los Angeles County Sex Crimes Prosecutor, and Founder of Dordulian Law Group; X @DordulianLaw  Dr. Angela Arnold - Psychiatrist, Atlanta, Ga.; Expert in the Treatment of Pregnant/Postpartum Women; Former Assistant Professor of Psychiatry, Obstetrics and Gynecology: Emory University; Former Medical Director of The Psychiatric Ob-Gyn Clinic at Grady Memorial Hospital; Voted My Buckhead’s Best Psychiatric Practice of 2022 Michael Bock - Former NYPD Sergeant Detective Squad Supervisor of Special Victims, Owner of ‘First Rate Investigations (that specializes in adult survivors and child survivor civil cases); X:@F_R_Consulting Anna Sonoda - Child Grooming Expert, Licensed Clinical Social Worker, and Author: “Duck Duck Groom: Understanding How a Child Becomes a Target”  Drew Penner - Reporter at the Los Gatan Newspaper; X: @losgatan  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Conversations that keep the Nancy Guthrie investigation alive! Is the damaged utility box around the corner from Nancy Guthrie's home relevant to the investigation into her disappearance? Sheriff Nanos says no, but the FBI continues to investigate. What should be done now, and what clues were initially missed in the investigation? Was the crime scene protected as individuals, including a pizza delivery person, who approached the front door where Nancy's blood was found, just days into the investigation? Join Nancy Grace and her panel of experts as she looks for answers to help bring Nancy Guthrie home. Anyone with information regarding the disappearance of 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie should contact the FBI tip line at 1-800-CALL-FBI (1-800-225-5324) or submit tips online at tips.fbi.gov.  There is a $1.2 million reward.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Alabama authorities say three buried bodies are likely those of a woman and her two children who vanished in January. Teen missing from his prestigious Long Island school since January found dead in the waters of Upper New York Bay. A Florida father charged with aggravated manslaughter after his 5-week-old baby died from extensive injuries. Maine man charged with murder claims he shot his girlfriend in the chest twice by accident. Sydney Sumner reports. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today we learn the FBI has returned to a Mexican restaurant favored by the Guthrie family, to re-interrogate restaurant employees. This,  as the possibility of retinal scanning of the images of "porch guy." We also talk to a tattoo expert about whether a quick tattoo removal is possibly.  Joining Nancy Grace today:  Kristian Hammond  - Artificial Intelligence Expert and Professor of Computer Science at Northwestern University, Director of The Center for Advancing Safety of Machine Intelligence (CASMI), website: https://casmi.northwestern.edu/   Jeff Garnett - Co-Founder, Inkless Tattoo Removal Centers, website: InklessTattooRemoval.com, Instagram: @inkless.laser,  Brian Fitzgibbons - Director of Operations for USPA Nationwide Security, leads a team of investigators specializing in locating missing persons, website: www.uspasecurity.com, Instagram: @uspa_nationwide_security, former Marine and Iraq war veteran  Joseph Scott Morgan  - Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University, Author, "Blood Beneath My Feet", Host: "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan", Instagram @JoScottForensic Dave Mack - Crime Stories Investigative Reporter  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A cop's high-speed stop saves a missing teen's life. The 16yo was finally rescued after missing for a month! A scouting scandal in Ohio after a kid's leg is shattered in a brutal beating as his pack leader stepped out to vape. Now, that boy's family has filed a lawsuit.  Plus, a smart device with a dumb mouth has one mom muting Alexa. Jennifer Gould reports. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What can we learn from the sliver of tattoo on "porch guy's" right arm? Turns out, more than you would think. Today, a tattoo artist with over 30 years experience gives us his thoughts.  Joining Nancy Grace today:  Darren “The Dude” Rosa - Tattoo Artist Rising Dragon Tattoos New York City; Instagram: RisingDragonTattoos  Dr. Bethany Marshall -  Psychoanalyst, Author: "Deal Breaker," and featured in hit show "Paris in Love" on Peacock; Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, X: @DrBethanyLive Brian Fitzgibbons – Director of Operations for USPA Nationwide Security (leads a team of investigators specializing in locating missing persons), Marine and Iraq War Veteran; Instagram: @uspa_nationwide_security Scott Eicher- A Founding Member of the FBI’s Cellular Analysis Survey Team (C.A.S.T); Historical Cellular Analysis Expert; Former FBI Agent of 22 Years; Former Police Officer and Homicide Detective with Norfolk Virginia Police Dept. (having served 12 years); Currently with Precision Cellular Analysis Handling Criminal, Defense and Civil Cases Dave Mack - Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories' See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.