The Fourth Way

Similar to the last episode, this episode takes a look at how evil's existence is even logically possible given a good creator. Problem of Evil: Malum: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61246316-malum?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=paPzsluSl5&rank=2Wandering in Darkness: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9777316-wandering-in-darkness?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=4jYGNHzsuT&rank=1Consolation of Philosophy: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31837.The_Consolation_of_Philosophy?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=mDPZQn2ir1&rank=2Making Sense Out of Suffering: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/256138.Making_Sense_Out_of_Suffering The Doors of the Sea: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/863944.The_Doors_of_the_Sea?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=SxwkUGiFly&rank=1Free Will: Desiring the Kingdom: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/219643834-desiring-the-kingdom-cultural-liturgies?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=dIy2Edibsy&rank=2  Free Will Podcast: https://thefreewillshow.com/ Freedom of the Will: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18923116-freedom-of-the-will?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=oh8V1io1tq&rank=1What is a Truly Free Will?: https://publicorthodoxy.org/2020/04/24/what-is-a-truly-free-will/Freedom and Belief: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1095873.Freedom_and_Belief?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=S1WFFMzcUj&rank=2A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Our whole season has been laying the groundwork for this episode. Given what we know about our wills, how we are formed, and who God is, I explore one possible explanation for how evil could have originated in a good world. Problem of Evil: Malum: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61246316-malum?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=paPzsluSl5&rank=2Wandering in Darkness: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9777316-wandering-in-darkness?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=4jYGNHzsuT&rank=1Consolation of Philosophy: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31837.The_Consolation_of_Philosophy?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=mDPZQn2ir1&rank=2Making Sense Out of Suffering: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/256138.Making_Sense_Out_of_Suffering The Doors of the Sea: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/863944.The_Doors_of_the_Sea?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=SxwkUGiFly&rank=1Free Will: Desiring the Kingdom: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/219643834-desiring-the-kingdom-cultural-liturgies?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=dIy2Edibsy&rank=2  Free Will Podcast: https://thefreewillshow.com/ Freedom of the Will: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18923116-freedom-of-the-will?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=oh8V1io1tq&rank=1What is a Truly Free Will?: https://publicorthodoxy.org/2020/04/24/what-is-a-truly-free-will/Freedom and Belief: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1095873.Freedom_and_Belief?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=S1WFFMzcUj&rank=2A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Before we can attempt to look at evil, we must have a good grasp on morality and purpose. We discuss both of those concepts in this episode. Associated Episodes: 282 Morality of Being: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/282-s11e9-5-a-morality-of-being281 Impossibility of Self-Purposing: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/281-s11e9-4-the-impossibility-of-self-purposing 280 Eudaimonism: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/280-s11e9-3-eudaimonism-a-foundation-of-wouldFree Will: Desiring the Kingdom: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/219643834-desiring-the-kingdom-cultural-liturgies?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=dIy2Edibsy&rank=2  Free Will Podcast: https://thefreewillshow.com/ Freedom of the Will: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18923116-freedom-of-the-will?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=oh8V1io1tq&rank=1What is a Truly Free Will?: https://publicorthodoxy.org/2020/04/24/what-is-a-truly-free-will/Freedom and Belief: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1095873.Freedom_and_Belief?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=S1WFFMzcUj&rank=2Problem of Evil: Malum: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61246316-malum?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=paPzsluSl5&rank=2Wandering in Darkness: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9777316-wandering-in-darkness?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=4jYGNHzsuT&rank=1Consolation of Philosophy: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31837.The_Consolation_of_Philosophy?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=mDPZQn2ir1&rank=2Making Sense Out of Suffering: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/256138.Making_Sense_Out_of_Suffering The Doors of the Sea: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/863944.The_Doors_of_the_Sea?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=SxwkUGiFly&rank=1A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Free Will: Desiring the Kingdom: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/219643834-desiring-the-kingdom-cultural-liturgies?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=dIy2Edibsy&rank=2  Free Will Podcast: https://thefreewillshow.com/ Freedom of the Will: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18923116-freedom-of-the-will?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=oh8V1io1tq&rank=1What is a Truly Free Will?: https://publicorthodoxy.org/2020/04/24/what-is-a-truly-free-will/Freedom and Belief: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1095873.Freedom_and_Belief?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=S1WFFMzcUj&rank=2Problem of Evil: Malum: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61246316-malum?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=paPzsluSl5&rank=2Wandering in Darkness: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9777316-wandering-in-darkness?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=4jYGNHzsuT&rank=1Consolation of Philosophy: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31837.The_Consolation_of_Philosophy?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=mDPZQn2ir1&rank=2Making Sense Out of Suffering: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/256138.Making_Sense_Out_of_Suffering The Doors of the Sea: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/863944.The_Doors_of_the_Sea?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=SxwkUGiFly&rank=1A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

What role does desire play in regard to the will, and can we choose our own desires?Free Will: Desiring the Kingdom: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/219643834-desiring-the-kingdom-cultural-liturgies?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=dIy2Edibsy&rank=2  Free Will Podcast: https://thefreewillshow.com/ Freedom of the Will: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18923116-freedom-of-the-will?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=oh8V1io1tq&rank=1What is a Truly Free Will?: https://publicorthodoxy.org/2020/04/24/what-is-a-truly-free-will/Freedom and Belief: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1095873.Freedom_and_Belief?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=S1WFFMzcUj&rank=2Problem of Evil: Malum: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61246316-malum?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=paPzsluSl5&rank=2Wandering in Darkness: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9777316-wandering-in-darkness?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=4jYGNHzsuT&rank=1Consolation of Philosophy: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31837.The_Consolation_of_Philosophy?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=mDPZQn2ir1&rank=2Making Sense Out of Suffering: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/256138.Making_Sense_Out_of_Suffering The Doors of the Sea: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/863944.The_Doors_of_the_Sea?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=SxwkUGiFly&rank=1A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

This episode distinguishes between the source of causation, outside and fatalistic versus internal and self-determined. Free Will: Free Will Podcast: https://thefreewillshow.com/ Freedom of the Will: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18923116-freedom-of-the-will?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=oh8V1io1tq&rank=1What is a Truly Free Will?: https://publicorthodoxy.org/2020/04/24/what-is-a-truly-free-will/Freedom and Belief: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1095873.Freedom_and_Belief?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=S1WFFMzcUj&rank=2Problem of Evil: Malum: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61246316-malum?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=paPzsluSl5&rank=2Wandering in Darkness: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9777316-wandering-in-darkness?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=4jYGNHzsuT&rank=1Consolation of Philosophy: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31837.The_Consolation_of_Philosophy?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=mDPZQn2ir1&rank=2Making Sense Out of Suffering: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/256138.Making_Sense_Out_of_Suffering The Doors of the Sea: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/863944.The_Doors_of_the_Sea?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=SxwkUGiFly&rank=1A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Is prayer coherent if we live in a universe with libertarian free will?Free Will: Free Will Podcast: https://thefreewillshow.com/ Freedom of the Will: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18923116-freedom-of-the-will?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=oh8V1io1tq&rank=1What is a Truly Free Will?: https://publicorthodoxy.org/2020/04/24/what-is-a-truly-free-will/Freedom and Belief: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1095873.Freedom_and_Belief?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=S1WFFMzcUj&rank=2Problem of Evil: Malum: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61246316-malum?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=paPzsluSl5&rank=2Wandering in Darkness: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9777316-wandering-in-darkness?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=4jYGNHzsuT&rank=1Consolation of Philosophy: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31837.The_Consolation_of_Philosophy?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=mDPZQn2ir1&rank=2Making Sense Out of Suffering: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/256138.Making_Sense_Out_of_Suffering The Doors of the Sea: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/863944.The_Doors_of_the_Sea?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=SxwkUGiFly&rank=1A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

I argue that if libertarian free will exists, then practically an infinite amount of universes without evil also exist. We also explore implications for multiverses given the "greatest good" concept. Free Will: Free Will Podcast: https://thefreewillshow.com/ Freedom of the Will: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18923116-freedom-of-the-will?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=oh8V1io1tq&rank=1What is a Truly Free Will?: https://publicorthodoxy.org/2020/04/24/what-is-a-truly-free-will/Freedom and Belief: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1095873.Freedom_and_Belief?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=S1WFFMzcUj&rank=2Problem of Evil: Plantinga's Free Will Defense: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Plantinga%27s_free-will_defenseMalum: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61246316-malum?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=paPzsluSl5&rank=2Wandering in Darkness: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9777316-wandering-in-darkness?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=4jYGNHzsuT&rank=1Consolation of Philosophy: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31837.The_Consolation_of_Philosophy?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=mDPZQn2ir1&rank=2Making Sense Out of Suffering: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/256138.Making_Sense_Out_of_Suffering The Doors of the Sea: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/863944.The_Doors_of_the_Sea?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=SxwkUGiFly&rank=1A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Does God have a "free" will in the libertarian sense?Free Will: Free Will Podcast: https://thefreewillshow.com/ Freedom of the Will: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18923116-freedom-of-the-will?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=oh8V1io1tq&rank=1What is a Truly Free Will?: https://publicorthodoxy.org/2020/04/24/what-is-a-truly-free-will/Freedom and Belief: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1095873.Freedom_and_Belief?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=S1WFFMzcUj&rank=2Problem of Evil: Malum: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61246316-malum?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=paPzsluSl5&rank=2Wandering in Darkness: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9777316-wandering-in-darkness?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=4jYGNHzsuT&rank=1Consolation of Philosophy: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31837.The_Consolation_of_Philosophy?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=mDPZQn2ir1&rank=2Making Sense Out of Suffering: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/256138.Making_Sense_Out_of_Suffering The Doors of the Sea: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/863944.The_Doors_of_the_Sea?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=SxwkUGiFly&rank=1A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Given God's omniscience and an A theory of time, does libertarian free will provide God with a basis for his knowledge?Episode Links: God Time and Eternity: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1265524.Time_And_EternityFree Will: Free Will Podcast: https://thefreewillshow.com/ Freedom of the Will: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18923116-freedom-of-the-will?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=oh8V1io1tq&rank=1What is a Truly Free Will?: https://publicorthodoxy.org/2020/04/24/what-is-a-truly-free-will/Freedom and Belief: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1095873.Freedom_and_Belief?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=S1WFFMzcUj&rank=2Problem of Evil: Malum: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61246316-malum?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=paPzsluSl5&rank=2Wandering in Darkness: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9777316-wandering-in-darkness?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=4jYGNHzsuT&rank=1Consolation of Philosophy: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31837.The_Consolation_of_Philosophy?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=mDPZQn2ir1&rank=2Making Sense Out of Suffering: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/256138.Making_Sense_Out_of_Suffering The Doors of the Sea: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/863944.The_Doors_of_the_Sea?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=SxwkUGiFly&rank=1A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★