The Woman Before Teresa: Vanessa’s POV (Pt.2)

If you’ve made it this far, Legal Team, you deserve a gold star! This week, we’re diving straight back in and wrapping up the infamous paternity scam between Bachelor alumni Clayton Echard and Laura Owens. On this episode, we will be focusing primarily on the legal aspects of the case, how it’s all unfolded, and sharing our final thoughts. Again, if you haven’t listened to parts 1, 2, and 3, we highly recommend you do so.   What’s on the docket?   Laura Owens’ suspicious baby bump appearance in court   Audio clips from Laura’s cross examination   Laura’s lawsuit against Dave Neal and threats to Reality Steve   Owens’ failed motion to quash and show up to her deposition   Review of the evidentiary hearing and clips from the trial—watch the full trial here!   The Attorney's Duty of Candor and why Owen's council came clean about her lies  Final ruling and the court’s findings   Our closing thoughts on the scandal  Episode links:  https://victimsoflauraowens.com/   https://www.tiki-toki.com/timeline/entry/2043256/Facts-Matter/   https://padlet.com/haybales/laura-owens-timeline-qz4pd706aw8m8zv3   https://justiceforclayton.com/wiki/index.php/Laura_Michelle_Owens_%26_Clayton_Echard   Access additional content and our Patreon here: https://zez.am/thebravodocket  The Bravo Docket podcast, the statements we make whether in our own media or elsewhere, and any content we post are for entertainment purposes only and do not provide legal advice. Any party consuming our information should consult a lawyer for legal advice. The podcast, our opinions, and our posts, are our own and are not associated with our employers, Bravo TV, or any other television network. Cesie is admitted to the State Bars of California and New York. Angela is admitted to the State Bars of Texas, Kansas, and Missouri.  Thank you to our incredible sponsors! Mint Mobile - To get this new customer offer and your new 3-month premium wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month, go to mintmobile.com/bravodocket. Schedule35 - Get 15% Off with code DOCKET at Schedule35.co iRestore - Unlock your best skin with @iRestorelaser and get 25% off your Illumina Face Mask with the code BRAVODOCKET25 at https://bit.ly/3Y05VrQ! Fungies - You can find these yummy gummies in the Vitamin section at your local Walmart for less than $10 or conveniently shop on their website, eatfungies.com. Enjoy 20% off with code BRAVODOCKET. RoBody - Go to ro.co/BRAVODOCKET. Memberships start at just $99 for your first month. Medication costs are separate. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This scam is truly the gift that keeps on giving, Legal Team. This week, we’re picking right back up where we left off in the infamous Bachelor alumni paternity scandal involving Clayton Echard and Laura Owens. Like we’ve said before, there’s so much ground to cover and tea to spill with this one.     *Required homework: Listen to parts 1 and 2 before diving into this episode.     What’s on the docket?   Cesie’s wedding and Angela's F1 recap!   The motions to communicate and contempt ordered by Laura Owens   What it means to Meet and Confer   News publications, articles, and press surrounding the scam from Clayton’s POV   Laura’s Reddit post, the infamous Dropbox link, and selective screenshots   Phone calls and police reports   Laura’s Ex Parte communication with the court   Reality Steve’s involvement   And so much more. Stay tuned for part 4!   Access additional content and our Patreon here: https://zez.am/thebravodocket  The Bravo Docket podcast, the statements we make whether in our own media or elsewhere, and any content we post are for entertainment purposes only and do not provide legal advice. Any party consuming our information should consult a lawyer for legal advice. The podcast, our opinions, and our posts, are our own and are not associated with our employers, Bravo TV, or any other television network. Cesie is admitted to the State Bars of California and New York. Angela is admitted to the State Bars of Texas, Kansas, and Missouri.  Thank you to our incredible sponsors! Lumen - Visit lumen.me/BRAVODOCKET to get 15% off! Cornbread Hemp - Visit cornbreadhemp.com/BRAVODOCKET and use code BRAVODOCKET for 30% off your first order! Mint Mobile - To get this new customer offer and your new 3-month premium wireless plan for just $15 a month, go to mintmobile.com/BRAVODOCKET Schedule35 - Get 15% off with code DOCKET at schedule35.co Betterhelp - Visit betterhelp.com/BRAVODOCKET today to get 10% off your first month. iRestore - Reverse hair loss with @iRestorelaser and get $625 off with the code BRAVODOCKET at https://bit.ly/4gp78S3! #irestorepod Fungies - You can find these yummy gummies in the Vitamin section at your local Walmart for less than $10 or conveniently shop on their website, eatfungies.com. Enjoy free shipping and 20% off with code BRAVODOCKET Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're probably wondering why we're in your feed today. We wanted to introduce you to our new favorite podcast - Live, Laugh, Lies with Susie Evans! We thought it was especially fitting because Susie recently sat down and talked with her ex Clayton Echard about his paternity scandal. Once you've listened to our three part series breaking down Clayton's court case, make sure you listen to Live, Laugh, Lies episode, "Lights, Camera, LIES (Clayton Echard’s Story)" to hear Clayton's POV! If you like what you hear, subscribe and listen to Live, Laugh, Lies wherever you get your podcasts and follow them on Instagram @livelaughliespodcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As promised, Legal Team, we’re back with part 2 of Clayton Echard’s paternity scandal! While Cesie is busy with wedding prep, Angela and her husband John are stepping in to continue unraveling the drama. If you haven’t caught part 1 yet, we highly recommend giving it a listen first!    What’s on the docket?  Quick recap of part 1 and how this scam escalated the way it did   A walkthrough of the first legal action in this case: Petition for court order of paternity   How the false claim of twins affected this case Laura’s demands from Clayton  Real text exchanges between Laura and Clayton   Should dating contracts be a thing?    As mentioned, this case is jam-packed, and there’s still a lot to get through, so stay tuned for more in the near future!   Access additional content and our Patreon here: https://zez.am/thebravodocket  The Bravo Docket podcast, the statements we make whether in our own media or elsewhere, and any content we post are for entertainment purposes only and do not provide legal advice. Any party consuming our information should consult a lawyer for legal advice. The podcast, our opinions, and our posts, are our own and are not associated with our employers, Bravo TV, or any other television network. Cesie is admitted to the State Bars of California and New York. Angela is admitted to the State Bars of Texas, Kansas, and Missouri.  Thank you to our incredible sponsors! One Skin - Get started today with 15% off using code BRAVODOCKET at oneskin.co Cornbread Hemp - Visit cornbreadhemp.com/BRAVODOCKET and use code BRAVODOCKET for 30% off your first order! Mint Mobile - To get this new customer offer and your new 3-month premium wireless plan for just $15 a month, go to mintmobile.com/BRAVODOCKET Hungryroot - Visit Hungryroot.com/BRAVODOCKET, to get 40% off your first delivery and get your free veggies. Betterhelp - Visit betterhelp.com/BRAVODOCKET today to get 10% off your first month. iRestore - Reverse hair loss with @iRestorelaser and get $625 off with the code BRAVODOCKET at https://bit.ly/4gp78S3! #irestorepod Fungies - You can find these yummy gummies in the Vitamin section at your local Walmart for less than $10 or conveniently shop on their website, eatfungies.com. Enjoy free shipping and 20% off with code BRAVODOCKET Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back, Legal Team! This week, we’re stepping away from the Bravo-verse and diving headfirst into Bachelor Nation. After holding off on covering this whirlwind of a case, we’re finally breaking down the chaos surrounding former Bachelor Clayton Echard’s paternity scandal. As you can imagine, there’s a lot to unpack—so buckle up for a multi-episode deep dive where we’ll cover it all.    What’s on the docket?  Clayton Echard’s history with the Bachelor franchise  Laura Owens background information   The “relationship” timeline between Echard and Owens  Their sexual encounter from each of their perspectives   Text and email exchanges between Clayton, Laura and her mother  The suspicious equestrian participation while allegedly “pregnant”  Laura’s letter to the police     Tune into part 2 now for more!  Access additional content and our Patreon here: https://zez.am/thebravodocket  The Bravo Docket podcast, the statements we make whether in our own media or elsewhere, and any content we post are for entertainment purposes only and do not provide legal advice. Any party consuming our information should consult a lawyer for legal advice. The podcast, our opinions, and our posts, are our own and are not associated with our employers, Bravo TV, or any other television network. Cesie is admitted to the State Bars of California and New York. Angela is admitted to the State Bars of Texas, Kansas, and Missouri.  Thank you to our incredible sponsors! One Skin - Get started today with 15% off using code BRAVODOCKET at oneskin.co Cornbread Hemp - Visit cornbreadhemp.com/BRAVODOCKET and use code BRAVODOCKET for 30% off your first order! Mint Mobile - To get this new customer offer and your new 3-month premium wireless plan for just $15 a month, go to mintmobile.com/BRAVODOCKET Hungryroot - Visit Hungryroot.com/BRAVODOCKET, to get 40% off your first delivery and get your free veggies. Betterhelp - Visit betterhelp.com/BRAVODOCKET today to get 10% off your first month. iRestore - Reverse hair loss with @iRestorelaser and get $625 off with the code BRAVODOCKET at https://bit.ly/4gp78S3! #irestorepod Fungies - You can find these yummy gummies in the Vitamin section at your local Walmart for less than $10 or conveniently shop on their website, eatfungies.com. Enjoy free shipping and 20% off with code BRAVODOCKET Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We're shaking things up this week, Legal Team! In this episode, we dive into the high-profile legal battle between MGA Entertainment and The OMG Girlz, led by none other than T.I. and his wife, Tameka 'Tiny' Harris. The case centers around MGA's creation of dolls that bear a striking resemblance to The OMG Girlz. This trial is especially significant to us, as Cesie had the privilege of working on it, contributing to a recent favorable outcome. We'll share trial war stories and talk trial strategy using examples from the case.  Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that any factual details discussed occurred in open court. We are not revealing anything that happened behind the scenes. As for any non-factual discussions, particularly around the racial tensions in this trial, we are simply sharing our opinions based on our perception of the events. We highly encourage you to form your own conclusions.  What’s on the docket?  Jury selection process and why representation is important   Background information on The OMG Girlz  The history of MGA Entertainment  Trade Dress meaning and the law of Trade Dress infringement  Why a mistrial was granted   Likelihood of Confusion factors and meaning   Some not-so-successful strategies Verdict and trial results   Access additional content and our Patreon here: https://zez.am/thebravodocket  The Bravo Docket podcast, the statements we make whether in our own media or elsewhere, and any content we post are for entertainment purposes only and do not provide legal advice. Any party consuming our information should consult a lawyer for legal advice. The podcast, our opinions, and our posts, are our own and are not associated with our employers, Bravo TV, or any other television network. Cesie is admitted to the State Bars of California and New York. Angela is admitted to the State Bars of Texas, Kansas, and Missouri.  Thank you to our incredible sponsors! Hungryroot - Visit Hungryroot.com/BRAVODOCKET, to get 40% off your first delivery and get your free veggies. Mint Mobile - To get this new customer offer and your new 3-month premium wireless plan for just $15 a month, go to MINT MOBILE.com/bravodocket. Fungies - You can find these yummy gummies in the Vitamin section at your local Walmart for less than $10 or conveniently shop on their website, eatfungies.com. Enjoy free shipping and 20% off with code BRAVODOCKET iRestore - Reverse hair loss with @iRestorelaser and get $625 off with the code BRAVODOCKET at https://bit.ly/4gp78S3! #irestorepod Litter Robot - Right now, Whisker is offering $75 off Litter-Robot bundles. AND, as a special offer to listeners, you can get an additional $50 off when you go to stopscooping.com/BRAVODOCKET. Magic Mind - You have a limited offer you can use now, that gets you up to 48% off your first subscription or 20% off one time purchases with code BRAVODOCKET at checkout. You can claim it at: https://magicmind.com/bravodocket Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The drama in the O.C. continues, Legal Team. But this week, Jennifer Pedranti and her fiancé Ryan Boyajian are up to bat (pun intended). The Real Housewives of Orange County partner has found himself in some hot water after being tied to a high-profile gambling case involving MLB superstar Shohei Ohtani, his interpreter, Ippei Mizuhara, and "bookie" Matthew Boyer. There's so much to unpack in this case, and just know there will be more to come as Ryan's alleged involvement continues to unfold. Stay tuned!      What’s on the docket?   Background info on Jenn and Ryan - what does Ryan do for a living? Case specifics and the key players involved   The plea agreements thus far Ryan's alleged involvement and his attorney's position Access additional content and our Patreon here: https://zez.am/thebravodocket  The Bravo Docket podcast, the statements we make whether in our own media or elsewhere, and any content we post are for entertainment purposes only and do not provide legal advice. Any party consuming our information should consult a lawyer for legal advice. The podcast, our opinions, and our posts, are our own and are not associated with our employers, Bravo TV, or any other television network. Cesie is admitted to the State Bars of California and New York. Angela is admitted to the State Bars of Texas, Kansas, and Missouri.  Thank you to our incredible sponsors! Hello Bellow -  Go to hellobello.com/ DOCKET, to get 30% off your first customized bundle, AND a full-size freebie product of your choice. Hungryroot - Visit Hungryroot.com/BRAVODOCKET, to get 40% off your first delivery and get your free veggies. Favorite Daughter - Visit favoritedaughter.com and use code DOCKET20 for 20% off your entire purchase order. Fungies - You can find these yummy gummies in the Vitamin section at your local Walmart for less than $10 or conveniently shop on their website, eatfungies.com. Enjoy free shipping and 20% off with code BRAVODOCKET One Skin - Get started today with 15% off using code BRAVODOCKET at oneskin.co. Lumen - Go to lumen.me/BRAVODOCKET to get 15% off your Lumen. iRestore - Reverse hair loss with @iRestorelaser and get $625 off with the code BRAVODOCKET at https://bit.ly/4gp78S3! #irestorepod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Another week, and the Storm(s) in O.C. rages on! Today we are jumping right back into the details of The Real Housewives of Orange County’s Shannon Beador’s DUI and unpacking the recent threats from her ex, John Janssen, and Jesus Jugs (aka Alexis Bellino) of releasing the alleged and potentially “life-ruining” videos.    What’s on the docket?  Your hosts catch up on Cesie’s wedding cake tasting and Angela’s upcoming trip to F1!  In-depth details of Shannon’s DUI and her perspective on the incident  DA sentencing report and the response from Shannon’s attorney   Shannon’s sentencing for the DUI and everything that entails  The video tapes that could allegedly ruin Shannon’s life  The rundown on California’s complicated privacy laws  What constitutes as blackmail in California  Answering listener submitted questions  Access additional content and our Patreon here: https://zez.am/thebravodocket  The Bravo Docket podcast, the statements we make whether in our own media or elsewhere, and any content we post are for entertainment purposes only and do not provide legal advice. Any party consuming our information should consult a lawyer for legal advice. The podcast, our opinions, and our posts, are our own and are not associated with our employers, Bravo TV, or any other television network. Cesie is admitted to the State Bars of California and New York. Angela is admitted to the State Bars of Texas, Kansas, and Missouri.  Thank you to our incredible sponsors! Hello Bellow -  Go to hellobello.com/ DOCKET, to get 30% off your first customized bundle, AND a full-size freebie product of your choice. Hungryroot - Visit Hungryroot.com/BRAVODOCKET, to get 40% off your first delivery and get your free veggies. Favorite Daughter - Visit favoritedaughter.com and use code DOCKET20 for 20% off your entire purchase order. Fungies - You can find these yummy gummies in the Vitamin section at your local Walmart for less than $10 or conveniently shop on their website, eatfungies.com. Enjoy free shipping and 20% off with code BRAVODOCKET Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There’s a Storm(s) brewing in the O.C! As tensions are running high this season, we’re unpacking the lawsuit between The Real Housewives of Orange County’s Shannon Storms Beador and her infamous ex, John Janssen (or is it Johnny J?...The jury’s out on that one.)     What’s on the docket?    Catching up and thoughts on the latest RHOC episode   Details of Shannon’s DUI   Who is John Janssen?   A breakdown of the lawsuit filed by Janssen against Beador in March of 2024   The basic elements of contracts   What constitutes acceptance, and the various forms   Shannon’s public response to the claims   The order from the court  Access additional content and our Patreon here: https://zez.am/thebravodocket  The Bravo Docket podcast, the statements we make whether in our own media or elsewhere, and any content we post are for entertainment purposes only and do not provide legal advice. Any party consuming our information should consult a lawyer for legal advice. The podcast, our opinions, and our posts, are our own and are not associated with our employers, Bravo TV, or any other television network. Cesie is admitted to the State Bars of California and New York. Angela is admitted to the State Bars of Texas, Kansas, and Missouri.  OneSkin - Get 15% off OneSkin with the code BRAVODOCKET at https://www.oneskin.co/  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Just when you think it’s over, Scandoval makes its way back into the headlines! Although Tom will no longer be following through with the lawsuit against Ariana, we’re still covering the highly requested gift that keeps on giving! AKA; the lawsuit between Vanderpump Rules stars, Rachel Leviss vs. Tom Sandoval and Ariana Madix.   What’s on the docket?   Life updates, Reddit thread reactions, and podcast reviews   An overview of what has previously been covered in this case   Rachel’s response to Ariana’s Anti-SLAPP motion   The court’s rulings on Rachel’s evidentiary objections to Ariana’s Anti-SLAPP  Rachel’s declaration and interpretation of the infamous screen recording   The objections filed by Ariana in response to Rachel’s declaration   Why the court denied Ariana’s Anti-SLAPP motion  Tom’s countersuit against Ariana, his retraction, and our thoughts!   Access additional content and our Patreon here: https://zez.am/thebravodocket  The Bravo Docket podcast, the statements we make whether in our own media or elsewhere, and any content we post are for entertainment purposes only and do not provide legal advice. Any party consuming our information should consult a lawyer for legal advice. The podcast, our opinions, and our posts, are our own and are not associated with our employers, Bravo TV, or any other television network. Cesie is admitted to the State Bars of California and New York. Angela is admitted to the State Bars of Texas, Kansas, and Missouri.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices