
Why did Josh Elman leave Apple, and where can AI startups still win against OpenAI? The former Siri and Apple Intelligence team member explains why he’s betting on a new wave of consumer companies.
Josh joins Eric Newcomer to discuss his move to Andreessen Horowitz, what held Siri back, and how Apple can rebuild users’ trust. He shares why OpenClaw changed his thinking about startups and why founders don’t need to build their own AI models to create valuable products.
They also explore personal AI agents, the future of shopping and travel, lessons from Musical.ly and TikTok, AI-generated entertainment, and the opportunities for new AI devices.
In this episode, we discuss working on Siri and Apple Intelligence, why OpenAI and Anthropic won’t be the only AI winners, how OpenClaw helped inspire Josh’s return to venture capital, what personal AI agents could change about everyday life, TikTok, microdramas, and the next consumer platforms, and how to build products people trust and keep using.
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