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Traditional Man Responds: Sex, Commitment & Dating Double Standards | Part 2

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What happens when a first date turns into a full blown debate about how men and women date?

Traditional Man is back for Part 2, and this time the conversation goes way beyond what happened between Andrea and him.

After hearing Andrea’s original episode about their date, he came on the podcast to explain his perspective. In Part 1, they unpacked what he says Andrea got wrong, why he was “testing” her, the low cut dress debate, feeling objectified and whether effort on a date creates expectations.

Now things get even spicier.

Traditional Man shares his views on sexual history, dating double standards, what men really think about a woman’s past, why he believes women’s preferences are celebrated while men’s are criticized, and one statement Andrea absolutely needed him to explain:

“Women control sex. Men control commitment.”

Andrea and Amy push back.

Do women control commitment too? Do men also decide whether sex happens? Should someone’s sexual past determine their value as a future partner? And can you have a dating preference without judging people who do not fit it?

Then the conversation takes one final unexpected turn.

And just when you think the debate is over, Andrea finally asks the question she never got answered: Did he actually want a second date? His answer might be the biggest surprise of the entire conversation.

This conversation is provocative, uncomfortable at times, surprisingly funny and exactly why dating conversations need more than one perspective.

Now I want to hear yours.

Did hearing Traditional Man explain his perspective change your opinion at all? Which argument did you agree with? Which one had you yelling at your phone?

And if you haven’t listened to Part 1 or the original Traditional Man episode, S8 E11, start there first.

⏱️ TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Does a Woman’s Past Matter?

03:50 Are Men and Women Judged Differently?

04:24 3 Partners vs. 70 Partners

05:00 Men Care About a Woman’s Past?

07:31 Dating Generalizations and Safety

09:37 What Men Really Think About Sexual History

10:27 “Your Playbook Is Exhausting”

12:07 Are Women’s Preferences Celebrated More Than Men’s?

13:03 Women Control Sex, Men Control Commitment?

15:55 Older Women Dating Younger Men

17:20 Does Scarcity Create Value in Dating?

18:06 Preferences vs. Judgment

20:27 Andrea Apologizes About the Flowers 😂

20:56 Did He Actually Want a Second Date?

22:30 Same Date, Two Completely Different Experiences

💡 I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU:

Do women control sex while men control commitment? Should someone’s sexual history matter when choosing a partner? And can we have preferences without placing judgment on people who don’t fit them?

Come find me on Instagram @from.mrs.2.ms and send me a DM with the argument you agreed with most AND the one you completely disagreed with.

And if you’re new to this story, listen to the original Traditional Man episode, S8 E11, and Part 1 first. Trust me, you need the backstory.

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