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Episode Transcript:Stirling 0:11 Welcome to witchy wellness weekly. If you love learning and interweaving healthy self growth and making magic, this is the show for you. And when we come together This is where we share how to breathe magic into your daily practice with creative self care inspiration to empower your unique journey to easeful health through witchy wellness, so that you can remember that your health choice is always your own. We are here to empower your freewill to decide for yourself. I'm Sterling, your magical methods mentor, nature based medicine maker farm life purveyor and nerd for all things esoteric, you can find my alchemical experiments at WWW dot wild folk which muse.com We are joined by our co host. Hilary is a certified clinical Ayurvedic Practitioner with the eye of a fine artist specializing in customizing herbs, nutrition and habits that support your body's unique cyclical rhythms at WWW dot Wilde veda.com. To support this show, and we the creators or for behind the scenes content, early access, a member only experiences come join the [email protected] slash witchy wellness, our private community is a safe place to explore your inner magic, where you are the hero of your own story on a planet that is thriving. It's Prime Time to climb out of the broom closet, my friends, because our Earth needs your wild magic right now.And I am so excited to be here with you having this conversation that we can share with basically anyone in the entire world that's ready to listen. And everyone is a little bit obsessed with releasing all the collective trauma that has been sustained and experienced over the past year, or generation or century or millennia. I mean, who's counting? I know that you wrote a blog post on the necessary steps and your recommendations when approaching how to clear out and prepare to set intention. And I would really love to hear you talk about it.Hillary 3:18 Awesome. I would love to talk with you about it. Yeah, clearing out. I think there's such a big focus on food and nutrition like in mainstream, especially on social media, like cleansing and exercising. And it seems to be like that's where we just think that we need to cleanse but I think it's really layered. And I think we also need to cleanse our space and cleanse our mind and cleanse our emotions like it's like a bigger, deeper, broader topic than just food and exercise.Stirling 3:56 So true. Yes, I agree. I noticed the knock on effect as well for myself. Personally, I noticed how much it helps me if I clear the clutter off my desk or I'm a I'm a Pilar I create Kyle's of you know, I lived in your house, I create a pile of strange things that I magnetize into weird little sculptures of life. And when I even just if I move the piles around when I consciously clear a space physically, I am way more able to approach a new topic or get my head around a thought form I personally had on a really intense journey with diet, and orthorexia, really, and being obsessed with eating.Hillary 4:52 And they say that last part again because it cut out you said orthorexia and being obsessed with eating and obsessed with eating too healthyStirling 4:59 I'm really understanding that I actually damaged my organs by not being in balance. And I know that that's your specialty is the mind body balance and how important diet is to that. So it's interesting to hear you talk about how you think there's actually too much focus on diet when it comes to actually being able to fully cleanse. So I am super intrigued to hear your take on that.Hillary 5:24 Yeah, I, I had the same issue too, with like being so obsessed with being so pure and so clean and so healthy. That it, it caused a ton of food allergies for me, and like a really reduced diet, which then, over time depleted, like you said, my organs and it messed up my hormones, and all of that. And so, definitely on the journey of recovery, from many years of almost being, like too obsessed with how I think it's an eating disorder,Stirling 5:57 I really do. It's like, absolutely detrimental, psychologically, emotionally, and physically and so common in the circles that we've run in. And really, it's, it's an eating disorder that is okay to encourage. And that I think is really dangerous, especially if the social media stuff not actually great for everyone, and ketosis is your body responding to trauma and eating itself. And that might be effective.Hillary 6:32 But that doesn't mean it's healthy. Right? Right. And I'm like, maybe we should just talk about this for a minute. Which is, this actually seems like a really, really common denominator and things that I see. And yeah, like you said, like when our body starts eating itself, basically, it, it feels good because you lose weight. And maybe you do have like, some clarity and things like that, because your body is literally eating.Stirling 7:04 Right, and we call it clarity, retrospective, retrospectively speaking, that's mania. That's what being in a manic episode feels like. That's what like a hypoglycemia high, is, it's not really a clarity of thought. It's your body boosting your cortisol and adrenaline and going,Hillary 7:26 Oh, s**t, do something. This isn't good. Yeah, exactly. And over time, you're just you just get used to being in a constant state of stress and trauma and like chaos. For what, like, a couple less pounds, maybeStirling 7:44 a couple less pounds, a couple more followers, a couple good Instagram posts, a couple smaller bikini sizes. I don't even know. For me, it's interesting because it It wasn't specifically about losing weight. So I didn't identify that it was a problem. Because for me, it was an obsession about not putting dirty things in my body, because I wanted to be healthy and clean. So I was making this really intense judgment about what was good to eat and what was bad to eat. And I was judging other people about that, too. But I thought because it wasn't about how am I going to look, it was about how am I going to be how healthy Am I going to be that I didn't understand how much I was damaging myself and I would make the choice to not eat if there wasn't a healthy option on a very regular basis that I could eat. That was healthy enough. And so I was basically choosing to starve myself, but because I wasn't doing that because I wanted to look thin. I didn't make the connection that that's like really unhealthy. Yeah, and actually like that, and a little bit crazy.Hillary 9:06 Totally. And yeah, I 100% agree with you. And I think he is kind of this like way of disordered eating. Like you said you didn't see it because it was more of like a mental process less for your physical body. And I think it can really happen in ways of like mind, body and spirit. I know that for many years of studying IR VEDA, it affected me on a really deep like spirit level where I had so much guilt around like, I can't eat anything aside from a very yogic pure diet, because of the karma that I will take on because of that. But because of that I was highly undernourished. And then, like I didn't have any energy, and so I went for really dense Sleep dense high energy calories. I didn't I wasn't consciously doing that. But I ate so much not not in seed butters. So, cow, because so much. Yeah, because it's like, it's pure and it's a plant food and it's healthy. It's healthy, but actually not in the quantity like we're not meant to consume that mentioned that since. And I would easily put down half a jar of nut or seed butter in a day, like me to 100% every day, every day. And to smoothies, I could go through a half a day. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, it's crazy. And like, I was a, I was a raw food chef. And I was so obsessed with health for years. And I, I developed allergies to every food that I worked with, like, almost every night in seed, to where my body at one point, I was eating something with almonds in it. And suddenly my body like flushed with th… This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wildmagik.substack.com/subscribe