EAT SLEEP WINE REPEAT: A wine podcast

In this fascinating and earthy episode of Eat Sleep Wine Repeat, Janina welcomes one of the world’s leading voices in soil and terroir — Pedro Parra, affectionately known as Dr. Terroir or Pedro Pits. A soil scientist, consultant, and winemaker, Pedro has studied over 50,000 soil pits across the globe and holds a PhD in terroir. His work has redefined how we understand vineyard mapping, root behavior, and the intimate connection between geology and the taste of wine. Together, Janina and Pedro dig deep — quite literally — into the role of soil, minerality, and terroir expression in winemaking. From limestone and granite to volcanic ash and clay, Pedro explains which grapes grow best in each soil type. They also explore Itata, Chile, one of South America’s oldest and most under-the-radar regions, and discuss Pedro’s beautiful 90-year-old-vine Cinsault, a wine that captures the soul of granite and the spirit of Burgundy. Expect scientific insight, poetic reflection, and a whole lot of passion for what lies beneath our vines. Shownotes   [00:32] – Meet Dr. Terroir: Pedro Parra, the man behind 50,000 soil pits and a global reputation for understanding what lies beneath our vineyards. [04:15] – What terroir truly means: why the connection between soil, roots, and weather defines a wine’s identity. [04:24] – What many winemakers misunderstand when they focus on the cellar instead of the vineyard. [11:31] – The perfect soil for Pinot Noir: how limestone delivers elegance, acidity, and finesse. [11:44] – Granite explained: why it produces wines with brightness, tension, and linearity. [14:22] – The best grape for granite soils? Pedro’s surprising answer — and the region that redefines Grenache. [16:32] – The truth about clay: good vs. bad clay, and why it can either nourish or suffocate the vine. [22:39] – What makes schist so complex and unpredictable in the vineyard. [23:48] – The grape varieties that thrive on schist — from the Douro to Côte-Rôtie. [24:57] – Volcanic soils: beauty, danger, and why only 10 % of volcanic terroirs produce great wine. [28:46] – Pedro’s most moving wine experiences and what he looks for in true terroir transparency. [31:12] – How he fell in love with Itata, Chile — a forgotten land of old bush vines and soulful energy. [39:01] – What makes his 90-year-old-vine Trance Cinsault 2022 (£40 Hic Wine Merchants)  so unique: granite soils, freshness, and natural elegance. [40:59] – “Being so good but the wines were so bad”: Pedro’s candid story of unlearning Burgundy winemaking. [43:46] – From concentration to “illusion”: discovering balance through gentle, cool fermentations. [45:15] – Whole-cluster fermentation — when it works, when it doesn’t, and why humidity is the key. [47:37] – Oak, concrete, and steel: how the choice of vessel completely changes a wine’s texture. [50:47] – Too many beautiful labels, not enough good wine — Pedro on the crisis of modern winemaking. [51:48] – The one wine that most moved Pedro — and his final thoughts on terroir and emotion.   📩 Questions or feedback? Email me: [email protected] 📸 Follow on Instagram: @eatsleep_winerepeat 🎥 YouTube Channel: Eat Sleep Wine Repeat 🌐 More content: www.eatsleepwinerepeat.co.uk Until next time – cheers to you! 🥂 THE EAT SLEEP WINE REPEAT PODCAST HAS BEEN FEATURED IN DECANTER MAGAZINE, RADIO TIMES, AND NAMED BY FEEDSPOT AS THE 6TH BEST UK WINE PODCAST. RECOGNITION: – FINALIST, 67 PALL MALL AWARD FOR BEST GLOBAL WINE COMMUNICATOR IN AUDIO (2025) – SHORTLISTED, IWSC EMERGING TALENT IN WINE COMMUNICATION (2025) – RANKED #18 IN 2024 AND #22 IN 2025 ON DRINKS RETAILING’S MOST INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE IN DRINKS LIST

In this sparkling episode of Eat Sleep Wine Repeat, Janina is joined by Cokie Ponikvar – shortlisted (and later winner) for the IWSC Emerging Talent in Wine Communication, Advanced Sommelier, and now on the path to both Master Sommelier and Master of Wine. Known to nearly half a million Instagram followers as Cokie’s World of Wine, Cokie’s infectious passion and disciplined study style have inspired a new wave of wine lovers worldwide. Together they dive into the fascinating world of Champagne vs. Crémant – uncovering why Champagne’s history and terroir make it unique, what the grower Champagne movement means for drinkers, and how eight French regions (plus Luxembourg) produce high-quality Crémant that can rival Champagne at a fraction of the price. Expect insights into blind tasting challenges, producer styles, and practical tips for studying sparkling wine. You’ll also discover: [02:26] – Luxembourg’s Crémant: spotlight on Bernard-Massard, the country’s leading producer [04:43] – How Cokie approaches studying wine and structuring learning.  [05:26] – The most difficult part of passing the Advanced Sommelier exam.  [09:22] – How long it really takes to become a Master Sommelier and Master of Wine.  [11:35] – The “craziest” decision Cokie has considered: attempting both titles simultaneously.  [14:11] – What Champagne truly means to her – and how a visit to Roman-dug caves in Reims changed her perspective forever.   [15:44] – Visiting Champagne houses like Taittinger and Ruinart: history carved into chalk cellars. [21:41] – The rise of grower Champagne: unique stories, pros and cons versus the grandes marques.  [24:14] – Understanding Champagne bottle labelling (RM vs NM codes).  [27:16] – Why Champagne commands higher prices – and when it’s worth it.  [30:07] – Breaking down Crémant: eight French regions and their grape varieties, terroirs, and styles.  [34:00] – Spotlight on Savoie and the Altesse grape: alpine freshness and minerality.  [37:02] – Carcassonne and Limoux: tasting history in the birthplace of sparkling wine.  [38:45] – The challenge of lining up Crémants in comparative tastings – and why producer style matters as much as region.  [42:28] – The purpose of the Crémant appellation and how to use it as a reliable Champagne alternative.  [44:22] – Study tips for identifying sparkling wines in blind tastings.   [46:53] – Making wine inclusive: pronunciation, accessibility, and why wine should be for everyone. Follow Cokie on her Crazy wine journey HERE. 📩 Questions or feedback? Email me: [email protected] 📸 Follow on Instagram: @eatsleep_winerepeat 🎥 YouTube Channel: Eat Sleep Wine Repeat 🌐 More content: www.eatsleepwinerepeat.co.uk Until next time – cheers to you! 🥂   THE EAT SLEEP WINE REPEAT PODCAST HAS BEEN FEATURED IN DECANTER MAGAZINE, RADIO TIMES, AND NAMED BY FEEDSPOT AS THE 6TH BEST UK WINE PODCAST. RECOGNITION: – FINALIST, 67 PALL MALL AWARD FOR BEST GLOBAL WINE COMMUNICATOR IN AUDIO (2025) – SHORTLISTED, IWSC EMERGING TALENT IN WINE COMMUNICATION (2025) – RANKED #18 IN 2024 AND #22 IN 2025 ON DRINKS RETAILING’S MOST INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE IN DRINKS LIST  

In the Season 6 premiere of Eat Sleep Wine Repeat, Janina is joined by Sunny Hodge, founder of Diogenes the Dog wine bar in London and author of The Cynic’s Guide to Wine (use code EATSLEEP15 for 15% off this book and all Academie du Vin books). Known for shaking up traditional wine education, Sunny takes us on a journey into the science behind wine, from rootstocks and yeast strains to soils, sulphites and histamines. This episode dives deep into how low-intervention vs. natural wine is defined, what mouse taint and Brettanomyces really mean for your glass, and why the future of wine chat might balance both the romance of terroir and the hard facts of winemaking. Expect myth-busting, geeky insights, and plenty of food for thought on how wine is grown, made, and enjoyed. If you’ve ever wondered what truly changes your wine beyond the grape – from organic regulations in the EU vs. USA, to terpenes, esters, and thiols – this is an episode that will transform the way you understand every sip. A quick shout out to this episode’s lovely sponsor Viavinum. I’ve got a special discount code that could earn up 5 or even 8% off your wine tour. Find details at the bottom.* You’ll also discover: [05:51] – Why Sunny wrote The Cynic’s Guide to Wine: moving beyond storytelling to answer the “whys” and “whats” of wine through science and real understanding. [09:04] – Diogenes the Dog: The Wine Bar in Elephant and Castle, London. [10:04] – Three places to expand your map: Texas (Malbec) from Messina Hof; Weightstone WE White No.4 from Taiwan; an organic project in Eastern Thrace, Turkey with Xavier Vignon. [12:27] – Hybrids/PIWI: bred for heat/humidity resilience to reduce spraying. [14:55] – Janina links her previous episode on Turkish wine for deeper context. [16:38] – The philosophy behind Aspen & Meursault: team training and a dedicated low-intervention concept.   [18:15] – Low-intervention vs natural: how to define these wine terms with no legal definitions.   [21:43] – Sulphur dioxide, alcohol and histamines: why hangovers aren’t usually caused by sulphur dioxide — and when histamines might matter.   [27:57] – Organic in Europe vs America: EU allows wines with reduced sulphur dioxide; US organic wine forbids added sulphur dioxide — changing how wines taste and age.   [34:32] – Soil really matters: mycorrhizal “underground internet,” rootstocks, and how they nudge ripening, acidity, and vigor.   [36:52] – From cellar to consumer: why better definitions and transparency help real-world wine choices.   [42:11] – What are thiols? Setting up the chemistry behind those tropical fruit notes.   [45:30] – Feeding vines: getting nitrogen without synthetic fertilisers (and a detour through Fritz Haber’s legacy).   [47:32] – Terpenes & esters: aroma families and where they come from   [52:26] – Mouse taint: why it’s more common in low-intervention wines and how it shows up.   [56:15] – Brettanomyces: fault or character? Unpacking the sweaty-horse debate.   [57:59] – What’s next for Sunny? (Spoiler: more geeky wine chat)   [60:04] – How to contact Sunny and where to buy The Cynic's Guide to Wine – Academie Du Vin Library (Don’t forget to use code EATSLEEP15 for 15% of this book and all others on the site)   *VIAVINUM WINE TOURS: If you’re dreaming of a wine-filled escape to Italy, I’ve got something special for you. Book a customized wine tour of more than 6 days / 5 nights through my trusted travel partners and use my code EATSLEEPWINE to unlock an exclusive discount: 5% off for private groups of 2 to 5 people 8% off for groups of 6 or more Right now, the full range of private tours isn’t live on the website as they’re being refreshed for the new season — but if you're ready to plan something unforgettable, this is the perfect time to design your own bespoke wine adventure. 📩 Questions or feedback? Email me: [email protected] 📸 Follow on Instagram: @eatsleep_winerepeat 🎥 YouTube Channel: Eat Sleep Wine Repeat 🌐 More content: www.eatsleepwinerepeat.co.uk Until next time – cheers to you! 🥂   THE EAT SLEEP WINE REPEAT PODCAST HAS BEEN FEATURED IN DECANTER MAGAZINE, RADIO TIMES, AND NAMED BY FEEDSPOT AS THE 6TH BEST UK WINE PODCAST. RECOGNITION: – FINALIST, 67 PALL MALL AWARD FOR BEST GLOBAL WINE COMMUNICATOR IN AUDIO (2025) – SHORTLISTED, IWSC EMERGING TALENT IN WINE COMMUNICATION (2025) – RANKED #18 IN 2024 AND #22 IN 2025 ON DRINKS RETAILING’S MOST INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE IN DRINKS LIST  

In this final episode of Season 5, and the last chapter of our mini-series on diversity, equity and inclusion in wine, Janina sits down with the incredible Aidy Smith – award-winning broadcaster, content creator, drinks educator and the only global TV host living with Tourette’s Syndrome. He’s also the founder of Drinklusive and a powerful advocate for representation, empathy, and accessibility in the wine world. Aidy brings his signature energy and honesty to this conversation, sharing his path into wine and the moments that shaped his mission. From supermarket favourites and wine hacks to wineries doing amazing work in inclusion – this episode is heartfelt, informative and a perfect way to close the season. You’ll also discover: [03:32] – Aidy’s first step into the drinks world (in a crumpled suit and a glass of Napa Cabernet!) [06:26] – Link back to Episode 46 and his love for California wine [07:46] – How Tourette’s, ADHD and being openly gay shaped his career in wine [14:45] – Why good intentions and asking questions are key to progress [17:28] – The most under the radar wine region: Patagonia, Argentina [21:00] – Bodega Otronia and its icy anti-frost system and Bodega Chacra and their Pinot and Chardonnays [22:39] – Beginner-friendly supermarket recommendation: Diablo Dark Red £9 with nectar Sainsburys [24:27] – How to expand your palate with Kadette Cape blend by Kanonkop (South Africa) £13.50 Sainsburys [26:22] – The importance of transparency on winery websites [29:06] – Favourite hot weather wine: white wines from Plaimont, Southwest France [30:24] – Wine hack: always pack a corkscrew in your toiletries bag [31:11] – What is Drinklusive and how it empowers new voices in wine [39:17] – Advice for wineries wanting to be more inclusive [43:57] – Janina’s shoutout to Michel Chapoutier (First producer to put Braille on labels) and tasting their Saint-Péray £20 mix 6 Majestic [44:47] – Champagne Telmont, sustainability and inclusivity focus [49:17] – Final reflections: what Aidy has learned and what still needs to change Follow Aidy on Instagram 📩 Questions or feedback? Email me: [email protected] 📸 Follow on Instagram: @eatsleep_winerepeat 🎥 YouTube Channel: Eat Sleep Wine Repeat 🌐 More content: www.eatsleepwinerepeat.co.uk Until next time – cheers to you! THE EAT SLEEP WINE REPEAT PODCAST HAS BEEN FEATURED IN DECANTER MAGAZINE, RADIO TIMES AND FEEDSPOT AS THE 6TH BEST UK WINE MAKING PODCAST.

Alex De Cata, Senior Manager of Global Development at WSET, joins Janina to explore how wine education can break barriers and create opportunity. From adapting materials for visually impaired students to funding wine courses in Angola and South Africa, WSET’s reach goes far beyond the classroom. They discuss how education—through tasting, theory, and structured approaches—empowers people to understand and enjoy wine, regardless of their background or budget. Along the way, you’ll learn why blind tasting is such a powerful tool for wine education, how cultural context shapes the way we perceive aromas, and why exploring lesser-known grapes like Fetească Regală or Xinomavro can offer incredible value. Alex also reflects on the emotional connection we form with wine through meaningful moments, and how staying curious—and truly listening—can help build a more inclusive and diverse industry. This inspiring conversation will leave you rethinking what wine education really means—and who it’s for. Episode Guide (Chapters) [02:21] – How Alex carved out his role at Wine & Spirit Education Trust [03:44] – What is the WSET and what does it stand for? [04:33] – Who are WSET courses for? [05:43] – Why blind tasting matters [09:35] – How to build your aroma memory [12:48] – Tasting the unexpected: wines off the beaten path [15:01] – Exploring regions beyond Bordeaux, into the South West of France [19:16] – How WSET promotes accessibility and inclusion [23:46] – WSET’s global social impact [27:42] – What’s next for WSET’s social initiatives? [32:31] – How wine education can save you money [34:24] – Discover: Fetească Regală and Fetească albă [36:15] – Alex’s favourite part of teaching [38:31] – Wine recommendation: meaningful moments [40:45] – What can we all do to make the industry better? If you are wanting to explore more the qualifications available at the WSET, find all details on their website: https://www.wsetglobal.com/ 📩 Questions or feedback? Email me: [email protected] 📸 Follow on Instagram: @eatsleep_winerepeat 🎥 YouTube Channel: Eat Sleep Wine Repeat 🌐 More content: www.eatsleepwinerepeat.co.uk Until next time – cheers to you! THE EAT SLEEP WINE REPEAT PODCAST HAS BEEN FEATURED IN DECANTER MAGAZINE, RADIO TIMES AND FEEDSPOT AS THE 6TH BEST UK WINE MAKING PODCAST.  

Carmen shares her incredible journey, from being rejected by winemaking school because of her race to founding the first 100% Black-owned winery in Stellenbosch. She discusses her love for Carménère, how South African terroir shapes her wines, and why she chooses to highlight what Mother Nature gives her in every vintage. Janina also tastes Carmen’s UK-exclusive Catoria red blend, available through Naked Wines for just £14.99, and reads a heartfelt note Carmen wrote to the wine club’s “angels.” But Carmen’s impact goes far beyond wine—she’s also the founder of the Carmen Stevens Foundation, which has served over 48 million school meals to children in need. Tune in for inspiration, resilience, and a celebration of what wine can do for communities. Episode Guide (Chapters) [03:35] – Becoming South Africa’s first Black female winemaker and the strength needed, and challenges faced [20:24] – Who is Carmen Stevens the winemaker? Exploring small-batch blending through Sauvignon Blanc and the unique expressions of different vineyard parcels. [25:38] – Discovering Carménère as a flagship grape [30:04] – South African vs Chilean Carménère [34:13] – Janina tastes the UK-exclusive red blend Catoria 2022 [36:19] – Great value: £14.99 through Naked Wines [37:38] – A heartfelt message to the Naked Wines Angels [41:18] – The story behind the Carmen Stevens Foundation [46:07] – How the wine industry can give back [47:37] – Mentoring and choosing young talent [51:46] – The dream of owning vineyards in Stellenbosch [52:58] – Dreams for the next 10 years [55:33] – Where to find Carmen’s wines internationally 📩 Questions or feedback? Email me: [email protected] 📸 Follow on Instagram: @eatsleep_winerepeat 🎥 YouTube Channel: Eat Sleep Wine Repeat 🌐 More content: www.eatsleepwinerepeat.co.uk Until next time - cheers to you! THE EAT SLEEP WINE REPEAT PODCAST HAS BEEN FEATURED IN DECANTER MAGAZINE, RADIO TIMES AND FEEDSPOT AS THE 6TH BEST UK WINE MAKING PODCAST.

In this episode, we head to the iconic Napa Valley to meet Amber Mihna, Global Sales Director at Staglin Family Vineyard — a family-run winery known not only for its exceptional Rutherford Bench Cabernet Sauvignon, but for embedding mental health advocacy into the very core of its mission. Amber dives into the story of how the Staglin family built their estate with a clear sense of purpose, from reclaiming historic vines to pioneering sustainability and championing inclusivity in the wine industry. They explore what makes the Rutherford Bench so special, how the “Rutherford dust” shapes the character of their wines, and the winemaking philosophy behind their elegant, age-worthy style. They also taste the Salus Estate Cabernet Sauvignon, a wine with a difference: 100% of its profits are donated to brain health research through the family’s foundation One Mind. Expect mocha-dusted tannins, autumnal aromas, and a full-bodied texture that feels featherlight — a wine Janina calls “plush, polished and profoundly humane.” If you’ve ever wondered why Napa Cabernet is worth the price, or how wine can be a true force for good, this episode is for you. Pour yourself a glass and enjoy. Episode Guide  [02:34] – The history of Staglin Family Vineyard [04:37] – What makes the Rutherford Bench so unique [06:19] – “Rutherford dust” and the minerality of their wines [07:24] – Family-owned and family-run: what it really means at Staglin [09:42] – A breakdown of the varietals grown at the estate [10:38] – Introducing the Salus wines and their mission for mental health [13:15] – The origin of their One Mind foundation: from diagnosis to music festival [15:17] – What kind of impact the family hopes to make [17:21] – What to expect from a Staglin Cabernet Sauvignon [19:24] – Tasting Salus Cabernet Sauvignon 2019 8Wines £118 [23:37] – Where to buy: Simply Wines Direct & The Champagne Company [24:56] – Why Napa Valley wines are (deservedly) expensive [27:27] – How Napa’s climate makes organic farming easier [29:22] – Winemaking philosophy: balance, freshness, and textured finesse [33:10] – Creating a more equitable and inclusive wine industry [35:43] – Advice for small wineries looking to start giving back [38:09] – What’s next for Staglin: replanting, solar renewal, and generational transition [40:31] – Vine life cycles and the decision to replant [42:18] – How to visit the winery and what to expect [45:20] – Sharing a glass with wine legend André Tchelistcheff 📩 Questions or feedback? Email me: [email protected] 📸 Follow on Instagram: @eatsleep_winerepeat 🎥 YouTube Channel: Eat Sleep Wine Repeat 🌐 More content: www.eatsleepwinerepeat.co.uk Until next time - cheers to you! THE EAT SLEEP WINE REPEAT PODCAST HAS BEEN FEATURED IN DECANTER MAGAZINE, RADIO TIMES AND FEEDSPOT AS THE 6TH BEST UK WINE MAKING PODCAST.  

In this episode, we are talking with Julia Moore, Communications Specialist at Bosman Family Vineyards, a South African winery at the forefront of ethical wine production and regenerative farming. With a 26% worker-ownership model, award-winning viticulture, and deep investment in education and inclusion, Bosman is redefining what sustainability in wine truly means. We explore the impact of shared ownership, the challenges and beauty of farming as a community, and the power of giving future generations opportunities beyond the vineyard. From vine nurseries to old vine Chenin Blanc, this conversation is rich in knowledge and purpose. Two wines are tasted during the episode: the affordable Generation 8 Chardonnay, supporting early childhood education projects, and the prestigious Optenhorst Chenin Blanc, sourced from the third-oldest Chenin vines in South Africa. Whether you’re interested in equitable business models, viticulture innovation, or wines with purpose, this episode delivers inspiration in every sip. Episode Guide (Chapters) [02:30] - How Julia approaches wine storytelling as a communicator [04:47] - How the land shapes the vines [07:51] - The role of climate and vine age [09:30] - Ethical working and community impact [11:35] - Shared ownership: transforming life on the farm [14:25] - Vision for youth and long-term opportunity [17:32] - How many people live on the farm as a community [18:57] - Tasting Generation 8 Chardonnay — a fresh, unoaked white wine with expressive fruit and minerality. Available at Sainsbury’s £9 (UK). [21:20] - How its sales support Bosman’s education projects [26:19] - What happens in the vine nursery during winter [30:46] - Clonal selection and rootstock combinations [33:23] - Bosman named Winery of the Year in the Platter’s Wine Guide [36:08] - Tasting Optenhorst Chenin Blanc 2023 — from 72-year-old dry-farmed bush vines. Around £25-30 per bottle. [38:59] - The story and power of old vines [41:06] - Pricing and exclusivity of Optenhorst; why it’s a rare and age-worthy wine [49:01] - What the wine industry must do for equity and representation [51:46] - Bosman Family Vineyards and more information 📩 Questions or feedback? Email me: [email protected] 📸 Follow on Instagram: @eatsleep_winerepeat 🎥 YouTube Channel: Eat Sleep Wine Repeat 🌐 More content: www.eatsleepwinerepeat.co.uk   Until next time — cheers to you! THE EAT SLEEP WINE REPEAT PODCAST HAS BEEN FEATURED IN DECANTER MAGAZINE, RADIO TIMES AND FEEDSPOT AS THE 6TH BEST UK WINE MAKING PODCAST.

In this powerful episode, we head to Australia to meet Wayne Quillam and Ben Hansberry, the co-founders of Mt Yengo Wines—a First Nations–owned winery built on reconciliation, cultural expression, and community. Mount Yengo is more than just a wine label: it's a movement for inclusion and truth-telling through art, ancestral storytelling, and connection to the land. Through this episode we explore how Indigenous knowledge and values are guiding sustainable wine practices, how art and wine intersect as cultural expression, and how community and collaboration drive the brand's ethical vision. From the symbolism behind each label to their practices with growers across South Australia and New South Wales, every bottle is rooted in purpose and tradition. Whether you're interested in inclusive winemaking, Indigenous leadership, or simply looking to connect more deeply with the story behind your next glass of wine, this episode will stay with you. Episode Guide (Chapters) [01:50] – What Mt Yengo stands for: a platform for reconciliation and cultural connection. [02:10] – Wayne shares his artistic journey and the role of ancestral wisdom in their work. [02:36] – Wine as a medium for connection—to land and to each other. [02:56] – How Mt Yengo began as a community-driven Indigenous brand. [06:31] – The stories behind the label artwork and the cultural role of women. [09:27] – Navigating initial bias: why an Indigenous wine brand faced resistance—and how they overcame it. [11:46] – Creating an ethical, inclusive model with growers and winemakers. [13:18] – Songlines, traditional land knowledge, and their integration into winemaking. [15:17] – “Reconciliation in action”: exporting wine and culture globally. [16:16] – The Adelaide Hills flagship range: partnerships, terroir, and excellence.  [17:58] – Mt Yengo Wines is showcased Wine Paris  / Vinexposium, [19:27] – Riverina wines: moving beyond bulk production toward quality. [22:42] – The climate and winemaking challenges in Hunter Valley. [24:38] – Semillon vs. Chardonnay: shifts in Hunter Valley grape trends. [26:32] – Deep symbolism in the Adelaide Hills artwork: land, femininity, and the cosmos. [29:48] – A powerful story of community celebration, culture, and joy. [33:03] – Movement, music, and communal joy: reconnecting through culture. [35:07] – How to respectfully engage with Aboriginal culture—starting with questions and curiosity. [38:24] – Regenerative viticulture: how growers are learning from First Nations traditions. [40:43] – Ben on how Mt Yengo’s influence is shifting mindsets in the wine industry. [42:00] – Final reflections on pride, purpose, and the growing impact of their journey. 📩 Questions or feedback? Email me: [email protected] 📸 Follow on Instagram: @eatsleep_winerepeat 🎥 YouTube Channel: Eat Sleep Wine Repeat 🌐 More content: www.eatsleepwinerepeat.co.uk Until next time - cheers to you! THE EAT SLEEP WINE REPEAT PODCAST HAS BEEN FEATURED IN DECANTER MAGAZINE, RADIO TIMES AND FEEDSPOT AS THE 6TH BEST UK WINE MAKING PODCAST.

In this episode, we head to the mountains of Northern Lebanon to meet Michelle and Claudine, neighbors, best friends, and the visionary founders of Heya Wines, a natural winery rooted in inclusion, heritage, and community. Heya Wines (meaning “She” in Arabic) is more than just a label, it’s a movement. From championing gender equity and employing Syrian refugee women, working with indigenous grapes and fermenting with apples in response to Lebanon’s energy crisis, every bottle tells a story of purpose and place. We dive into their hands-on winemaking approach, explore the beauty of high-altitude terroir, and taste their soulful wines, from Nour, a textured white blend of direct press Obeideh & White Grenache to Kanz, a red made with carbonic maceration and aged in amphora. We also hear about the challenges of making wine in a region grappling with instability, and how the power of community, resilience, and female solidarity fuels every step. This is a story of women rewriting what it means to make wine, not just in Lebanon, but everywhere. Whether you're curious about natural wine, socially conscious farming, or planning a trip to the Levant, this episode will inspire you to pour with intention. Episode Guide (Chapters) 1:23 - Founding Heya Wines: friendship, passion, and a mission for equity 5:15 - Facing gender bias and creating equal pay in Lebanon’s wine industry 7:53 - Hiring and empowering Syrian refugee women 9:57 - The rainy harvest: a community effort that defines Heya’s spirit 11:25 - Traditional Lebanese breakfast: manoushe, za’atar and labneh 13:38 - Heya’s location: high-altitude terroir (1450m) near the Syrian border 14.07 - The region of Dimane, North Lebanon and it’s terroir 17:27 - Creating Farha, a co-ferment of apples and indigenous Merwah grapes 18.03 - What does Merwah taste like? 18:40 -  Travel tips: Beirut → Batroun (45min) → Heya Wines (another 45min) 20.46 - What does Obeidah taste like, and how it compares to Merwah? 21:13 - Tasting Nour (white blend of Obeideh & Grenache) — made during the war Gnarly Vines - £30  29:06 - Tasting Kanz (red Grenache-Syrah): carbonic maceration in amphora Gnarly Vines - £28  29:34 - Kanz: “Treasure”: why it’s their most playful and textural wine 30.44 - How ageing in amphora affects the wine 34:49 - Food pairings: platters with white & red meats, yogurt, vegetables 35:45 - Global feedback and building a growing Heya Wines community 39:02 - Labels featuring real harvest women - authentic and unfiltered 41:12 - What’s next: expanding opportunities for women and working moms 42.17 - One message for listeners working in a vineyard, cellar or boardroom who can shape the future of wine   📩 Questions or feedback? Email me: [email protected] 📸 Follow on Instagram: @eatsleep_winerepeat 🎥 YouTube Channel: Eat Sleep Wine Repeat 🌐 More content: www.eatsleepwinerepeat.co.uk Until next time - cheers to you! THE EAT SLEEP WINE REPEAT PODCAST HAS BEEN FEATURED IN DECANTER MAGAZINE, RADIO TIMES AND FEEDSPOT AS THE 6TH BEST UK WINE MAKING PODCAST.