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What makes Italian design so distinctive, and why should hospitality designers look beyond aesthetics when choosing Italian manufacturers for their next project? In this episode of Thrive In Design, host Nicole Lashae Hall welcomes Antonella Lanari, founder and managing director of Italian Contract for HD, and Lorena Malaman, partner at Italian Contract for HD, for an insightful conversation about Italian craftsmanship, material expertise, customization, and the value of specifying Italian products in hospitality environments. As they prepare to bring 13 Italian brands to Boutique Design New York (BDNY) 2026, Antonella and Lorena share how Italian manufacturers are helping designers bring ambitious hospitality concepts to life. Through real-world examples involving brands such as Natuzzi, Rubelli, Italamp, and others, they explore how generations of expertise translate into innovative materials, bespoke solutions, and products designed for performance and long-term value. Nicole, Antonella, and Lorena also discuss the importance of collaboration between manufacturers and the North American design community, what designers should consider when evaluating international product partners, and why the specification process should extend beyond appearance and initial cost. From custom furnishings and performance textiles to architectural lighting and natural stone, this conversation reveals the depth of knowledge and problem-solving capabilities behind Italian manufacturing. If you're an interior designer, architect, hospitality developer, or specification professional attending BDNY, this episode is your invitation to discover what's possible when Italian craftsmanship meets your creative vision. Timestamps 00:00 – Welcome to Thrive In Design Nicole introduces the podcast and its mission to help interior product brands strengthen their strategy, storytelling, and specification growth. 00:47 – Why Italian Design Is More Than Beautiful Aesthetics Nicole introduces the conversation around craftsmanship, heritage, material expertise, customization, and the long-term value Italian manufacturers bring to hospitality. 01:12 – Meet Antonella Lanari & Lorena Malaman Meet the leaders behind Italian Contract for HD and learn about their mission to connect Italian manufacturers with the North American hospitality design community. 03:05 – Building International Relationships Through Design Antonella and Lorena share their professional backgrounds and how their complementary expertise helps Italian brands connect with designers and purchasing professionals. 04:45 – Why Focus on the Hospitality Market? A discussion about the unique opportunities and challenges of bringing Italian manufacturers into international hospitality and contract markets. 06:04 – Bridging the Gap Between Manufacturers and Designers Why understanding each other's needs, communicating expertise, and building long-term partnerships are essential to successful hospitality projects. 07:48 – Why Specify Italian? Looking Beyond Aesthetics Antonella and Lorena explain how material knowledge, proportion, manufacturing decisions, and technical expertise influence the finished guest experience. 10:00 – Italian Design in Action: Orbital Design Collective Explore how Italian furniture and lighting brands contribute to coordinated hospitality interiors, including a project reference at the Grand Bohemian Lodge in Greenville, South Carolina. 13:31 – The Value of Heritage and Craftsmanship Why a manufacturer's history matters when it translates into technical knowledge, performance, and solutions for contemporary hospitality projects. 16:37 – Hospitality Design Examples from Cannes and Rome Discover how Vibieffe upholstery at Hôtel Barrière Le Majestic and custom Rubelli textiles at Bvlgari Hotel Roma connect material, comfort, craftsmanship, and a sense of place. 19:57 – How Designers Should Evaluate Material Expertise Why performance, maintenance, application, and construction should be considered alongside aesthetics when choosing products for hospitality projects. 22:25 – The Importance of a Detailed Design Brief Nicole highlights why communicating project conditions, intended use, and performance requirements helps manufacturers transform creative ideas into successful installations. 24:32 – Material Innovation: Leather, Textiles & Stone Explore Italian manufacturing expertise through Contract saddle leather seating, Mariaflora performance textiles, and Elite Stone Group's backlit onyx applications. 30:03 – Understanding Customization in Italian Manufacturing A closer look at how Italian manufacturers support everything from customized finishes to entirely bespoke product development. 32:48 – Natuzzi and the Art of Bespoke Hospitality Design Learn how The Living Room Miami by Cipriani demonstrates collaboration extending from feasibility and design development through prototyping, supply, and installation. 36:56 – Custom Lighting and Outdoor Hospitality Solutions Examples from Italamp and Unopiù illustrate how manufacturers adapt products to architecture, design intent, and project-specific requirements. 39:58 – The Difference Between a Supplier and a True Design Partner Nicole and her guests examine how manufacturers can become collaborators throughout the design and implementation process. 41:31 – Performance, Durability & Long-Term Value Why hospitality designers should evaluate the lifetime of a product, including maintenance, serviceability, durability, and ongoing operational needs. 44:12 – Designing for the Future: Wood Flooring & Lighting Discover how refinishable wood flooring and thoughtfully engineered lighting installations can support long-term value and easier maintenance. 48:08 – Versatility and Reimagining Product Applications Examples from S•CAB and Roberti Outdoor show how furniture can support different guest experiences, operational requirements, and indoor or outdoor settings. 51:24 – Meet 13 Italian Brands at BDNY 2026 Antonella and Lorena encourage designers to experience materials firsthand, ask detailed questions, and discover new opportunities for collaboration. 53:53 – A Special BDNY Event: Sunday, November 8 Nicole invites listeners to join the team on the BDNY show floor at 1:00 PM for a special event celebrating Italian design and manufacturing. 54:36 – What Every Designer Should Know About Specifying Italian A final reflection on why choosing an Italian manufacturer means choosing the expertise and knowledge behind the product, not simply its appearance. 56:19 – Closing Thoughts & Spec Ready Nicole closes the episode and shares how interior product brands can strengthen their positioning, marketing, and specification strategy. Key Quotes "The gap is about understanding each other's needs." — Antonella Lanari "History becomes useful when it gives manufacturers the expertise and a deeper understanding of a decision you need to make today." — Lorena Malaman "The life of the space continues long after the purchasing decision." — Lorena Malaman "Italian origin alone does not settle the value question." — Lorena Malaman "We want the meeting to help the professional to leave with a clearer view and with an idea that they really could be specifying Italian." — Antonella Lanari Key Takeaways Italian design goes beyond aesthetics. The true value of Italian manufacturing comes from the expertise behind the finished product, including material knowledge, construction, engineering, and the ability to translate a design concept into a functional hospitality environment. Craftsmanship and heritage support modern innovation. Generations of experience can help manufacturers create new solutions that maintain the intended aesthetic while meeting the technical and operational demands of hospitality spaces. Customization is more than changing colors and finishes. Italian manufacturers can collaborate with designers to develop truly bespoke products, from new textile constructions and architectural lighting compositions to custom furniture solutions. Specification decisions should consider long-term value. Purchase price is only one part of the equation. Durability, maintenance, serviceability, and the ability to repair or refinish products influence a hospitality project's long-term performance. Strong manufacturer relationships begin with clear communication. A detailed project brief and early collaboration help designers and manufacturers identify opportunities, navigate technical requirements, and bring creative visions to life. BDNY creates opportunities to experience Italian design firsthand. Sitting in the furniture, touching textiles, examining materials, and speaking directly with manufacturers can reveal capabilities that photographs and catalogs alone cannot communicate. Connect with Our Guests & Explore the Brands In this episode of the Thrive In Design Podcast, we sit down with Antonella Lanari and Lorena Malaman of Italian Contract 4HD (IC4HD) to explore the world of Italian design, craftsmanship, and the brands bringing exceptional products to the hospitality and commercial interiors industry. To learn more about our guests and discover the Italian brands featured in this episode, explore the links below. Meet Our Guests Visit Italian Contract 4HD: https://www.ic4hd.com/ — Discover how IC4HD connects Italian design brands with opportunities in the international hospitality market. Meet Antonella and Lorena: https://www.ic4hd.com/about/ Follow Italian Contract 4HD on LinkedIn: Italian Contract 4HD Explore the Featured Italian Design Brands Elite Stone Group: Luxury natural stone and architectural surfaces for sophisticated interior environments. Visit Website Italamp: Decorative Italian lighting that combines craftsmanship, artistry, and statement-making design. Visit Website Listone Giant: Italian wood flooring and surface solutions that bring warmth, character, and natural beauty to interiors. Visit Website Lodes: Contemporary architectural and decorative lighting that blends innovative technology with Italian design. Visit Website Mariaflora: High-performance indoor and outdoor textiles designed to combine durability, elegance, and functionality. Visit Website Natuzzi Italia: Italian furniture and interior collections known for comfort, craftsmanship, and contemporary design. Visit Website Orbital Design Collective: A design-focused collective exploring creative collaborations and distinctive product solutions. Visit Website Pellizzoni: Italian furniture and design solutions that emphasize craftsmanship, refined materials, and contemporary aesthetics. Visit Website Roberti Outdoor: Outdoor furniture collections designed for stylish hospitality, commercial, and residential environments. Visit Website Rubelli: Luxury Italian textiles and upholstery fabrics that celebrate heritage, craftsmanship, and innovative design. Visit Website S•CAB: Contemporary Italian seating and furniture solutions for hospitality, commercial, and residential spaces. Visit Website Unopiù: Premium outdoor furniture and accessories that bring Italian elegance to exterior living and hospitality spaces. Visit Website Vibieffe: Italian upholstered furniture and sofas that combine timeless design, comfort, and craftsmanship. Visit Website Whether you're an interior designer looking for new products to specify or an interior product manufacturer interested in expanding your international presence, these brands offer an opportunity to discover the creativity, craftsmanship, and innovation behind Italian design.   🔗 Connect with Thrive In Design Follow Thrive In Design for insights on design leadership, business strategy, and growth in the A&D industry: Website: https://www.thriveindesign.co/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thriveindesign/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveindesign/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thriveindesign 🚀 Go Deeper with Thrive In Design Take the SpecReady™ Assessment: https://specready.co/ Join the Thrive In Design: AI in Design Summit on May 19, 2027: https://tidsummit.com/ 👋 Connect with Nicole Nicole’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicoleben

What if the product is not the problem? After working with and alongside more than 35 brands in 2026, Nicole Lashae Hall began noticing a set of recurring patterns across interior product companies. Different brands may have different products, teams, markets, and goals, but many are getting stuck in surprisingly similar places. In this episode of the Thrive In Design Podcast, Nicole breaks down five growth gaps that are showing up across the industry: the gap between product sophistication and the commercial experience, the gap between information and interpretation, the strategic burden placed on manufacturer reps, the gap between visibility and specification, and the growing challenge of turning insight into coordinated execution. Nicole explains why great products alone are not enough. A brand may have exceptional engineering, craftsmanship, sustainability, customization, and performance, but if the website is difficult to navigate, the story is unclear, sales tools are outdated, rep messaging is inconsistent, or follow-up is weak, the commercial experience may not match the sophistication of the product. She also explores the role of storytelling in helping designers understand not just what a product does, but why it matters. Using a simple feature, meaning, and application framework, Nicole shows how manufacturers can translate technical product information into positioning that is easier for designers to understand, remember, and apply to real projects. The episode also takes a closer look at manufacturer reps and what Nicole calls “invisible strategic labor.” Reps are often given strong product training and ambitious sales goals, but are still left to independently determine which accounts to prioritize, how to tell the brand story, how to differentiate products, how to follow up, and how to build their own sales strategy. Nicole then challenges brands to rethink marketing visibility. Trade shows, social media, press, sample requests, email campaigns, and rep activity can create awareness—but awareness alone does not guarantee specification. The real opportunity is to intentionally move designers from visibility to relevance, preference, and ultimately specification. Finally, Nicole examines what competitive advantage looks like in the age of AI. As information becomes easier to access, the advantage is shifting away from simply knowing more and toward the ability to turn insight into coordinated action. The question for interior product leaders heading into 2027 is not simply, What else should we add? It is: Where are the gaps between the value of our product and our ability to successfully carry that value into the market?   Timestamps 00:00 — Welcome to Thrive In Design Nicole introduces the podcast’s focus on helping interior product brands align strategy, storytelling, and systems to drive specification growth. 00:47 — What Working Alongside 35+ Brands Revealed Nicole reflects on the patterns and challenges she has observed across consulting, AI solutions, and the AI and Design Summit in 2026. 02:26 — Why Marketing, Sales, AI, and Growth Cannot Be Treated Separately A continuation of the Season 10 conversation about understanding the full experience before adding more tactics or tools. 03:51 — Five Patterns Interior Product Brands Need to Pay Attention To Nicole introduces the five recurring gaps she has seen across the industry. 04:19 — Pattern #1: The Product Is More Sophisticated Than the Commercial Experience Why product development, engineering, craftsmanship, and performance can outpace the experience surrounding the product. 05:43 — Where the Commercial Experience Falls Behind Unclear brand stories, outdated sales tools, difficult websites, weak specification information, inconsistent rep messaging, and poor follow-up. 07:44 — Researching the Digital and Rep Experience Nicole references ThinkLab research on how designers discover, research, and evaluate products using both manufacturer reps and digital resources. 08:11 — The Sample Experience as a Commercial Touchpoint Why a great sample kit can still fall short if follow-up, automation, and rep communication are disconnected. 09:07 — Is Your Designer Experience as Sophisticated as Your Product? Four questions brands can use to evaluate whether designers can understand, remember, explain, and confidently bring the brand into a project. 10:37 — Pattern #2: Brands Underestimate How Much Interpretation the Market Needs Why storytelling plays a much bigger role in sales than simply presenting features and product information. 11:41 — Information Is Not the Same as Interpretation Nicole explains why a spec sheet provides information, while a story helps someone understand why that information matters. 13:22 — Designers Should Not Have to Figure Out Why Your Product Matters The responsibility of the brand is to make its value, positioning, and relevance easy to understand. 14:52 — The Feature, Meaning, and Application Framework A simple framework for turning product attributes into clear sales and marketing stories. 16:34 — Pattern #3: Reps Are Carrying More of the Growth Strategy Than Brands Realize Nicole introduces the concept of invisible strategic labor placed on manufacturer reps. 17:29 — What Reps Are Being Asked to Figure Out on Their Own Account prioritization, storytelling, differentiation, follow-up, content, CRM management, and trade show strategy. 19:00 — A Rep Network Is Not the Same as a Rep Strategy Why asking every rep to independently invent their own strategy creates inconsistency across the organization. 20:19 — The Know, Create, Decide Rep Enablement Framework A practical audit for identifying what reps should know, what they are creating themselves, and what strategic decisions they are being asked to make independently. 21:40 — Pattern #4: Visibility and Marketing Movement Are Not the Same Thing Why being visible across social, press, trade shows, samples, and events does not necessarily move a brand closer to specification. 23:01 — Visibility → Relevance → Preference → Specification Nicole outlines the stages brands need to move through to turn awareness into real specification opportunities. 24:41 — Audit Your Marketing Investments Are your marketing activities designed simply to create visibility, or to intentionally move buyers toward preference and specification? 25:07 — Pattern #5: Competitive Advantage Is Shifting from Access to Execution Why access to research, AI, analytics, CRM systems, consultants, and information is no longer enough to differentiate a brand. 25:56 — Turning Insight Into Coordinated Action The real competitive advantage is the ability to execute consistently on what the organization already knows. 26:25 — What This Means for AI Implementation Why brands should not feel pressured to implement AI as quickly as the technology itself is evolving. 27:36 — AI Has an Implementation Problem, Not an Information Problem Why overwhelm, fragmented adoption, and siloed experimentation are becoming leadership challenges. 28:30 — The Five Gaps Behind These Patterns Nicole summarizes the maturity gap, interpretation gap, rep enablement gap, visibility-to-specification gap, and execution gap. 29:31 — Position to Specify and the Full Commercial Experience How Thrive In Design evaluates the entire path toward specification rather than one isolated marketing tactic. 29:57 — A Five-Part Scorecard for Interior Product Brands Questions around experience, interpretation, enablement, movement, and execution. 30:41 — Looking Ahead to 2027 Nicole shifts from looking inside companies to listening to the market and understanding where the industry is heading. 31:32 — Insight Into Action Is Where Growth Begins A closing reminder that predictions alone are not enough—the opportunity is to turn insight into meaningful action.   Key Quotes “Sometimes the product has evolved faster than the way that we’re selling it.” “Information is not the same as interpretation.” “Designers shouldn’t have to do the strategic work of figuring out why our product matters.” “Sometimes when we say, ‘We have a rep strategy,’ what we really have is a rep network that we’re asking to create the strategy individually.” “Visibility gets you seen, relevance gets you remembered, and preference gets you considered.” “The competitive advantage isn’t knowing more. It’s being able to turn what you know into coordinated action.” “Your implementation of AI does not need to be as fast as how AI is evolving.” “Insight is useful, but insight into action is where growth begins.”   🔗 Connect with Thrive In Design Follow Thrive In Design for insights on design leadership, business strategy, and growth in the A&D industry: • Website: https://www.thriveindesign.co/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thriveindesign/ • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveindesign/ • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thriveindesign   🚀 Go Deeper with Thrive In Design • Take the SpecReady™ Assessment: https://specready.co/ • Join the Thrive In Design: AI in Design Summit on May 19, 2027: https://tidsummit.com/   👋 Connect with Nicole • Nicole’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicoleben

What does it really take to bet on yourself, build a new product brand from the ground up, and stay rooted in your values while doing it? In this episode of Thrive In Design, host Nicole Lashae Hall sits down with Kim DiMarco, founder of Somato Textiles, to explore the story behind a hospitality-focused textile company built around creativity, community, transparency, and a different approach to doing business. Kim shares how more than 25 years in the textile industry shaped her perspective—from beginning her career in Toronto and helping expand a major contract textile brand into Canada and international markets, to eventually deciding it was time to build something of her own. She explains why Somato was created specifically for the hospitality market, how the brand approaches color and pattern differently, and why creating a focused collection can be more valuable than overwhelming designers with endless choice. The conversation also goes far beyond product. Kim and Nicole discuss the realities of funding and scaling a startup, building meaningful relationships with the design community, investing in employees, creating a people-first company culture, and developing more sustainable approaches to the textile lifecycle. Kim also shares why persistence, gratitude, integrity, and simply showing up can shape not only a career, but the kind of company—and life—you ultimately build. Timestamps 00:00 – Welcome to Thrive In Design Nicole introduces the podcast and its mission to help interior product brands align strategy, storytelling, and systems for specification growth. 00:47 – Meet Kim DiMarco, Founder of Somato Textiles An introduction to Kim’s 25+ years in textiles, her entrepreneurial journey, and the values behind Somato. 02:56 – How Kim Found Her Way Into Contract Textiles Kim shares how a presentation during design school sparked her interest in the textile industry—and why she worked for free for four months to get her first opportunity. 04:27 – Persistence, International Sales & Building the Canadian Market Kim reflects on convincing a major textile brand to invest in Canada and later developing partnerships across Japan, China, Dubai, and Australia. 05:59 – Why Somato Focuses on Hospitality Kim explains why hospitality became the natural focus for her own company and why she wanted Somato to specialize rather than try to serve every market. 07:07 – The Meaning Behind the Somato Name Kim shares the inspiration behind the company name and its connection to the somatosensory system and the experience of touch. 07:28 – Creating a More Focused Textile Collection A discussion about designer choice fatigue, foundation fabrics, intentional color, and creating distinctive anchor patterns. 09:28 – Where Kim Finds Creative Inspiration Fashion, travel, nature, color, and Kim’s own creative instincts all influence Somato’s product development. 11:07 – Designing Beyond Trends Kim explains why she prefers timeless collections over chasing trends and how customer feedback shapes new product decisions. 12:50 – Building a New Brand and Getting Specified Kim talks about Somato’s 2024 soft launch, its official 2025 launch, early sales momentum, and the challenges of growing with a very small team. 15:53 – Spec Ready & the Changing Specification Landscape Nicole shares resources designed to help interior product brands strengthen their positioning, messaging, and sales readiness. 16:34 – Making the Brand Experience Memorable Kim explains how Somato translates its hospitality positioning into brand touchpoints, including a price list designed like a restaurant menu and curated A&D boxes. 18:46 – Making Specification Easier Through Transparency Why straightforward pricing, easy access to information, and reducing friction matter to Somato’s customer experience. 19:07 – People, Planet & Product Kim introduces the philosophy at the heart of the company and explains how those values influence business decisions. 19:54 – Investing in Employees and Creating Opportunity Kim discusses profit sharing, developing people beyond their previous experience, and adapting systems so employees can work successfully. 21:33 – Sustainability and Textile Take-Back Kim shares Somato’s work toward taking back fabric at the end of its useful life and converting it into material that could eventually be used in carpet backing. 24:13 – Why the Design Industry Needs More Human Connection Kim reflects on the loss of in-person interaction and why creative professionals benefit from reconnecting personally, professionally, and creatively. 26:05 – Gratitude, Autonomy & Building a Meaningful Workplace A conversation about helping employees see work as an opportunity for growth, learning, independence, and long-term success. 28:49 – Integrity, Mentorship & Helping People Thrive Kim shares lessons from a 17-year experience with a former textile company and how those lessons influence the culture she wants to create at Somato. 30:18 – The Reality of Fundraising a Startup Kim discusses the difficulty of accessing capital and what she learned while exploring outside investment. 31:03 – The Creative Pitch That Got a Response Kim tells the story of sending customized Somato packages to Danny Meyer’s investment team—and how creative persistence opened a conversation. 33:01 – Why Access to Capital Remains a Major Challenge Kim and Nicole discuss the barriers small businesses face when trying to secure financing during their earliest stages. 34:20 – An Opportunity for the Design Industry to Invest in Itself Kim shares her hope that successful businesses within the interiors industry will find more ways to support and invest in one another. 35:07 – Kim’s Advice: Invest in Yourself Kim encourages professionals at any stage of their careers to embrace change, take chances, show up fully, and recognize how every experience can lead somewhere new. 36:53 – What’s Next for Somato Textiles Kim previews an upcoming outdoor collection, new fibers and patterns, and additional launches planned as the brand continues to grow. 37:48 – Closing Thoughts & Spec Ready Nicole closes the conversation and shares the next steps for brands looking to strengthen their specification strategy. Key Quotes “Anything is really possible if you invest in yourself.” — Kim DiMarco “You’re showing up for yourself, not necessarily for the business. Everything you learn from that opportunity is going to take you somewhere else.” — Kim DiMarco “Let’s just be joyful with the opportunities that come our way, and know that every experience is going to lead you somewhere else.” — Kim DiMarco “I just really believe we have to go back to connection.” — Kim DiMarco “I want to create a company that gives people great opportunities.” — Kim DiMarco Key Takeaways Kim’s story is a reminder that building a successful interior product brand requires more than a strong product. It takes clarity about the market you want to serve, a differentiated point of view, persistence in building relationships, and systems that make it easier for designers to engage with and specify your collection. Her approach to Somato also reinforces the importance of aligning the internal business with the external brand. From employee development and transparent pricing to sustainability initiatives and creative customer touchpoints, the company’s values are designed to show up throughout the experience. For entrepreneurs and emerging leaders, Kim’s message is equally clear: invest in yourself, stay open to learning, and don’t underestimate where persistence can lead. 🔗 Connect with Kim DiMarco & Somato Textiles Learn more about Somato Textiles and connect with Kim and her team through the links below. Website: somatotextiles.com Instagram: @somato.textiles LinkedIn: Somato Textiles 🔗 Connect with Thrive In Design Follow Thrive In Design for insights on design leadership, business strategy, and growth in the A&D industry: Website: https://www.thriveindesign.co/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thriveindesign/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveindesign/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thriveindesign 🚀 Go Deeper with Thrive In Design Take the SpecReady™ Assessment: https://specready.co/ Join the Thrive In Design: AI in Design Summit: https://tidsummit.com/ 👋 Connect with Nicole Nicole’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicoleben

What happens when an interior product brand treats marketing, sales, AI, and growth as separate problems? In this Season 10 opening episode of the Thrive In Design Podcast, host Nicole Lashae Hall explores why many manufacturers struggle not because they need more activity, but because their customer and specification journeys are fragmented. From disconnected marketing and sales messaging to sales reps creating their own workflows and AI processes, Nicole explains why improving one department in isolation often fails to solve the larger business challenge. Marketing can amplify what already exists—but if the brand story, sales process, digital experience, specification journey, or follow-up systems are unclear, more marketing may simply amplify the friction. Nicole also draws on her experience as a manufacturer’s representative and on research discussed in the episode from Gartner, Microsoft, IBM, and McKinsey to examine the growing importance of coordinated commercial processes, AI governance, and end-to-end workflow design. The core question for interior product manufacturers heading into 2027 is not simply, Should we invest more in marketing? Should we hire more reps? Should we implement AI? Instead, Nicole encourages leadership teams to ask: Where is the friction in the journey that is costing us growth? She also explains how journey mapping and Thrive In Design’s approach to the specification experience can help manufacturers examine every touchpoint—from brand discovery and website visits to rep interactions, samples, technical information, procurement, trade shows, follow-up, and final installation. Before adding more people, technology, marketing, or complexity, the opportunity may be to first understand the process you already have—and identify what needs to be fixed. Timestamps 00:00 — Welcome to Season 10 Nicole introduces the new season and the Thrive In Design Podcast’s focus on strategy, storytelling, systems, and specification growth. 00:46 — Three Different Conversations, One Underlying Problem Why questions about marketing, sales reps, and growth may all point to the same issue: improving individual parts of a business without understanding the entire experience. 02:00 — Celebrating the Podcast and the AI in Design Summit Nicole reflects on the podcast’s growth, the inaugural 2026 AI in Design Summit, and what is ahead for Thrive In Design. Editor’s note: Early in the episode, Nicole references “10,000 episodes”; she meant to celebrate the Thrive In Design Podcast reaching 10,000 downloads. 03:29 — Nicole’s Experience as a Manufacturer’s Rep How Nicole’s background in interior design, design management, sales, and go-to-market strategy shaped her perspective on product brands. 04:07 — Why “Just Focus on Marketing” Is the Wrong Starting Point Marketing does not operate in isolation. Nicole explains how brand story, sales processes, digital experiences, rep messaging, websites, and trade shows all influence results. 06:28 — The Business Cost of Silos Research discussed from Gartner illustrates why inconsistent digital and sales messaging can weaken buyer confidence. 08:08 — AI in Design Summit + Spec Ready A look at Thrive In Design’s resources for helping product brands approach AI and specification strategy intentionally. 08:57 — The Rep Experience and the Strategy Gap Nicole shares what she learned during her decade working for manufacturers and why strong product training alone does not teach reps how to reach ambitious sales goals. 10:27 — How Reps Build Their Own Systems From account prioritization and follow-up to staying visible with designers, many reps are left to create their own processes. 11:28 — AI, Shadow Workflows, and Governance Nicole discusses how employees are experimenting with AI independently and why companies need visibility into how AI is being used across their organizations. 14:01 — Why AI Policy Alone Is Not Enough Before optimizing a workflow with AI, brands first need to define the workflow itself. 15:09 — Journey Mapping the Specification Experience Nicole explains her design-thinking approach to mapping the journey from brand discovery through product installation. 16:20 — What Happens When Departments Operate in Silos A real-world example of leadership teams pointing fingers instead of mapping the full process and identifying shared friction. 17:37 — Why Process Comes Before AI Implementation Research discussed from McKinsey supports an end-to-end workflow approach rather than isolated AI use cases. 18:43 — Using Spec Ready to Identify Risks and Opportunities How interior product brands can begin assessing their processes, strengths, and potential areas of friction. 19:40 — Should You Hire More Salespeople or Improve the Brand? Nicole examines two common growth strategies and explains why neither is automatically the right answer. 21:18 — Diagnose the Constraint Before Investing Growth decisions should follow a clear understanding of where the actual bottleneck exists. 22:52 — The Most Important Growth Question for 2027 Instead of asking whether to invest in marketing, reps, or AI, ask where friction in the journey is costing the company growth. 23:20 — Does the Customer Experience Feel Like One Brand? Nicole walks through the specification journey—from website discovery and product information to samples, procurement, trade shows, and follow-up. 24:29 — Looking at the Full Specification Experience Digital touchpoints, brand story, sales reps, specification materials, trade shows, internal processes, and technology must work together. 25:11 — What Should You Fix Before You Add More? Nicole closes the episode with the central theme for the mini season: rather than simply doing more in 2027, determine what needs to be fixed first. Key Quotes “Marketing really amplifies what is already going on at your company.” “Working in a marketing silo is never the answer.” “How can you improve a process with AI that you haven’t defined the process for yet?” “Process should come first in the conversation.” “Diagnose the constraint before choosing the investment.” “Where is the friction in the journey that’s costing us growth?” “What should we fix before we add more?” 🔗 Connect with Thrive In Design Follow Thrive In Design for insights on design leadership, business strategy, and growth in the A&D industry: Website: https://www.thriveindesign.co/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thriveindesign/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveindesign/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thriveindesign 🚀 Go Deeper with Thrive In Design Take the SpecReady™ Assessment: https://specready.co/ 👋 Connect with Nicole Nicole’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicoleben  

What if great design isn’t just about aesthetics—but about how people feel inside a space? In this episode of Thrive In Design, Nicole Lashae Hall sits down with Vita Vygovska to explore the deeper role design plays in wellness, emotional experience, and human connection. Known for her thoughtful and intentional approach to interiors, Vita shares how meaningful spaces are created when designers move beyond trends and focus on the lived experience of the people using them. Together, Nicole and Vita discuss the evolving expectations clients have around wellness-centered environments and why emotional intelligence is becoming one of the most valuable skills in the design industry. From hospitality-inspired residential design to sensory awareness and intentional storytelling, this conversation highlights the growing shift toward spaces that support both function and feeling. Vita also opens up about her entrepreneurial journey, sharing lessons on creative leadership, business growth, and maintaining authenticity while scaling a design practice. If you’re a designer looking to create more impactful work—or a creative entrepreneur navigating growth—this episode offers both inspiration and practical insight into designing with purpose. ⏱️ Timestamps (Key Moments) 00:00 – Introduction to Vita Vygovska + her design philosophy 02:00 – How Vita approaches emotionally driven design 05:00 – The connection between wellness and interior spaces 08:00 – Why sensory experience matters in modern design 11:00 – Designing beyond trends: creating spaces with meaning 14:00 – Hospitality influence on residential design experiences 17:00 – Entrepreneurship, leadership, and scaling a design business 20:00 – The role of authenticity in creative growth 23:00 – How designers can create stronger client connection 26:00 – Final thoughts on designing spaces that truly support people 💬 Key Quotes “Design is about how people feel—not just what they see.” “Wellness should be integrated into every layer of the design experience.” “Trends fade, but emotional connection lasts.” “The most memorable spaces are the ones that make people feel understood.” “Authenticity is one of the greatest assets a designer can have.” 🔗 Connect with Vita To learn more about Vita Vygovska and her work shaping the future of design, connect with her: Instagram: http://instagram.com/vitalia_inc Company Site: http://vitaliainc.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz-iHWBFBBQ6k9m4ZvFKbSQ Facebook: http://facebook.com/vitaliaincwindowtreatments LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/vitaliainc Pinterest: http://pinterest.com/vitalia_inc 🔗 Connect with Thrive In Design Follow Thrive In Design for insights on design leadership, business strategy, and growth in the A&D industry: Website: https://www.thriveindesign.co/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thriveindesign/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveindesign/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thriveindesign 🚀 Go Deeper with Thrive In Design Take the SpecReady™ Assessment: https://specready.co/ Join the Thrive In Design: AI in Design Summit on May 20, 2026: https://tidsummit.com/ 👋 Connect with Nicole Nicole’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicoleben

What does it take to turn creative talent into a globally recognized design brand? In this episode of Thrive In Design, Nicole Lashae Hall sits down with Stacy Garcia—founder, designer, and entrepreneur—to explore how she built a multi-faceted brand spanning product design, licensing, and strategic partnerships across the A&D industry. Stacy shares her journey from launching her own design studio to developing a licensing powerhouse, offering a behind-the-scenes look at how designers can expand beyond traditional service models. This conversation dives into the business mechanics of scaling creative work—covering everything from brand positioning and product development to navigating long-term partnerships with major manufacturers. Nicole and Stacy also discuss the importance of evolution in a creative career. As the industry shifts, Stacy emphasizes why adaptability, curiosity, and a clear point of view are essential for staying relevant—and how designers can create opportunities rather than wait for them. If you’re an interior designer, product designer, or creative entrepreneur looking to diversify your revenue streams, build a lasting brand, and think beyond client work, this episode provides both inspiration and practical insight. ⏱️ Timestamps (Key Moments) 00:00 – Introduction to Stacy Garcia + her impact in the design industry 02:00 – Stacy’s early career and transition into entrepreneurship 05:00 – How she built her brand beyond traditional design services 08:00 – Understanding licensing as a growth strategy for designers 12:00 – The role of partnerships in scaling a creative business 15:00 – How to position your work for long-term opportunities 18:00 – Adapting to industry shifts and staying relevant 21:00 – The mindset behind building a global design brand 24:00 – Advice for designers looking to expand their business model 27:00 – Final thoughts: creating longevity in your creative career 💬 Key Quotes “Your creativity doesn’t have to be limited to one business model.” “Licensing allows your ideas to scale beyond your time.” “You don’t wait for opportunities—you create them.” “A strong point of view is what makes your work valuable.” “Longevity comes from evolution, not repetition.” 🔗 Connect with Stacy To learn more about Stacy Garcia and her work shaping the future of design and the built environment, connect with her and Stacy Garcia Studio: Connect with Stacy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stacygarcia/ Follow Stacy Garcia Studio on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/stacy-garcia-studio/ Follow Stacy Garcia Studio  on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/stacygarciastudio Follow Stacy Garcia Studio  on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stacygarciastudio/  Follow Stacy Garcia Studio on Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/stacygarciainc/  Visit the Stacy Garcia Studio website:https://stacygarciainc.com/  You can also reach Stacy directly at [email protected]. 🔗 Connect with Thrive In Design Follow Thrive In Design for insights on design leadership, business strategy, and growth in the A&D industry: Website: https://www.thriveindesign.co/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thriveindesign/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveindesign/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thriveindesign 🚀 Go Deeper with Thrive In Design Take the SpecReady™ Assessment: https://specready.co/ Join the Thrive In Design: AI in Design Summit on May 20, 2026: https://tidsummit.com/ 👋 Connect with Nicole Nicole’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicoleben  

AI is everywhere—but for many in the design industry, it still feels unclear, overwhelming, or disconnected from day-to-day work. In this solo episode of Thrive In Design, Nicole Lashae Hall pulls back the curtain on the vision behind the upcoming AI & Design Summit and why this moment represents a critical turning point for interior product brands, marketers, and sales teams. Rather than offering surface-level insights or scattered tools, Nicole introduces a structured way to think about AI through the lens of the ACE framework: Awareness, Consulting, and Execution. This methodology maps directly to the customer journey—revealing how AI is already influencing how designers discover, evaluate, and specify products. Nicole also addresses the biggest challenges she’s hearing across the industry: fear of replacement, lack of clarity on implementation, and missed opportunities due to fragmented education. From undocumented conference conversations to disconnected podcast insights, she makes a compelling case for why the industry needs a centralized, actionable approach to AI adoption. If you’re an interior product manufacturer or design professional looking to stay relevant, refine your strategy, and confidently integrate AI into your business, this episode sets the stage for what’s next—and how to take action. ⏱️ Timestamps 00:00 – Welcome to Thrive In Design + podcast mission 01:00 – Nicole’s reflection on podcast growth and audience 02:00 – Introduction to the AI & Design Summit 03:00 – What Thrive In Design does (consulting + execution) 04:30 – The rise of AI in the design industry 05:30 – Common fears and misconceptions about AI 06:30 – The gap in how AI is currently being taught 07:30 – Why the customer journey is key to understanding AI 08:00 – Introducing the ACE Framework (Awareness, Consulting, Execution) 09:30 – How AI impacts each stage of the customer journey 11:00 – Why designers are changing how they evaluate products 12:00 – The need for a centralized AI conversation in the industry 12:30 – Overview of the AI & Design Summit (May 20, 2026) 13:00 – Keynote preview: AI and brand relevance 13:45 – Panel: AI in product development 14:30 – Session: AI, brand voice, and storytelling 15:45 – Fireside chat: implementing AI within teams 16:45 – How to attend (live or replay options) 17:30 – Bonus: new AI-powered service announcement 18:30 – Final thoughts + invitation to take action 💬 Key Quotes “AI is already impacting every touchpoint of the customer journey.” “If you’re not in the room, you’re missing the conversation.” “The sale of your product is tied to the designer’s experience.” “AI isn’t just about efficiency—it’s about relevance.” “We don’t need more information—we need structured implementation.” 🔗 Connect with Thrive In Design Follow Thrive In Design for insights on design leadership, business strategy, and growth in the A&D industry: Website: https://www.thriveindesign.co/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thriveindesign Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveindesign/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thriveindesign 🚀 Go Deeper with Thrive In Design Take the SpecReady™ Assessment: https://specready.co/ Join the Thrive In Design: AI in Design Summit on May 20, 2026: https://tidsummit.com/ 👋 Connect with Nicole Nicole’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicoleben

Artificial intelligence isn’t just changing how we work—it’s changing the work itself. In this episode of Thrive In Design, Nicole Lashae Hall sits down with Kate Rancourt, Director of Customer Insights & Growth at One Workplace, to explore how AI is reshaping the design industry—from sales conversations to strategic decision-making. Kate shares her journey from interior designer to insight-driven leader, revealing how her role focuses on identifying emerging market shifts and translating them into revenue-generating strategies. At the core of this conversation is a powerful idea: insight alone doesn’t drive growth—activation does. Together, Nicole and Kate unpack how AI is evolving from a simple tool into a true collaborator. They discuss the importance of using AI to enhance—not replace—human connection, and why the most successful professionals will be those who double down on what makes them uniquely human. You’ll also learn practical, real-world ways to use AI in your day-to-day work—from crafting LinkedIn content and preparing for high-stakes conversations to refining sales strategies and winning new accounts. If you’ve felt overwhelmed or unsure about where to start with AI, this episode offers a clear, grounded approach to integrating it into your workflow with confidence. ⏱️ Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction to Thrive In Design + episode overview 01:00 – Meet Kate Rancourt and her role at One Workplace 03:00 – From interior design to customer insights and growth 04:30 – What it means to connect insight to revenue 06:00 – Why insight without action doesn’t move the business 07:30 – The intersection of sales, marketing, and design 09:00 – When AI became real (not just a buzzword) 11:00 – Early experimentation with AI tools (Midjourney + beyond) 13:00 – The speed of AI and why it changes everything 14:00 – AI integration into everyday workflows 15:00 – Reframing the fear: what AI can’t replace 16:00 – Identifying the “uniquely human” parts of your role 17:00 – Internal resistance, ethics, and AI skepticism 19:00 – What a “prompt” actually is (and why it matters) 21:00 – Treating AI like a colleague, not a command tool 24:00 – Practical example: AI for LinkedIn content strategy 29:00 – Using AI to prepare for difficult conversations 33:00 – Leveraging AI for sales strategy and stakeholder alignment 36:00 – The importance of critical thinking alongside AI 37:00 – Why AI is more than just a tool 39:00 – Using multiple AI platforms strategically 41:00 – Where to connect with Kate + closing thoughts 💬 Key Quotes “Insight without activation doesn’t move the business.” “AI is not just a tool—it’s becoming a collaborator.” “The question isn’t ‘Will AI replace me?’ It’s ‘What part of my job is uniquely human?’” “Treat AI like a colleague, not a command line.” “Stay critical—and still experiment.” 👋🏻 Connect with Kate Rancourt To learn more about Kate Rancourt and her work shaping the future of design and the built environment, connect with her and One Workplace: Connect with Kate on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/katerancourt Follow One Workplace on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/one-workplace/ Follow One Workplace on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oneworkplace/  Follow One Workplace on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OneWorkplace  Visit the One Workplace website: https://www.oneworkplace.com/ Listen to the ONEder Podcast:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/oneder-podcast/id1510047350 You can also reach Kate directly at [email protected]. 🔗 Connect with Thrive In Design Follow Thrive In Design for insights on design leadership, business strategy, and growth in the A&D industry: Website: https://www.thriveindesign.co/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thriveindesign/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveindesign/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thriveindesign 🚀 Go Deeper with Thrive In Design Take the SpecReady™ Assessment: https://specready.co/ Join the Thrive In Design: AI in Design Summit on May 20, 2026: https://tidsummit.com/ 👋 Connect with Nicole Nicole’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicoleben

In this episode of Thrive In Design, host Nicole Lashae Hall breaks down the latest ThinkLab 2026 benchmark report through the lens of a strategist—translating research into real, actionable insights for interior product brands. Nicole explores the key industry tensions shaping the market today: shrinking workforce, tariff pressures, and rapid AI acceleration. Despite these challenges, specification power is growing—creating a powerful opportunity for brands that are aligned with how designers actually work. This episode emphasizes the importance of moving beyond surface-level marketing into research-backed strategy that drives real specification growth. Listeners will gain clarity on how designers’ influence is evolving, why being in a specifier’s “top 3–5 brands” is critical, and how generational shifts—especially the rise of Gen Z—are reshaping expectations for digital experiences and brand engagement. Nicole also unpacks how tariffs should be viewed not just as a pricing issue, but as a brand storytelling opportunity to build trust and loyalty. Finally, the episode dives into AI’s role in the design industry—highlighting why AI readiness is no longer optional and how manufacturers must optimize their digital assets to remain visible in AI-powered discovery tools. This episode is essential for interior product brands looking to stay competitive, relevant, and specification-ready in 2026 and beyond. Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction To Thrive In Design And Podcast Mission 01:00 – Season Recap And Importance Of Research-Driven Strategy 02:05 – Why Branding Without Research Is A Wasted Investment 03:00 – Nicole’s Strategist Perspective And Industry Experience 05:00 – The Complexity Of Go-To-Market Strategies Across Design Segments 06:15 – Current Industry Landscape: AI, Disruption, And Change 07:14 – ThinkLab 2026 Report Overview And Key Tensions 08:00 – Tariff Pressures And Marketing Budget Challenges 09:00 – AI Acceleration And Shifting Designer Discovery Behavior 10:19 – Market Growth Vs. Disruption: Macro Vs. Micro Trends 12:00 – Specification Power Explained (Why Designers Matter More Than Ever) 13:41 – Workforce Shifts And Rise Of Gen Z Designers 15:00 – Why Brands Must Be In Designers’ Top 3–5 Shortlist 15:21 – “Position To Specify” Framework Explained 17:00 – Digital-First Expectations And Evolving Buyer Behavior 18:38 – Tariffs As A Brand Storytelling Opportunity 21:00 – Building Trust Through Communication And Transparency 23:06 – AI Is No Longer Optional: What The Data Shows 24:27 – Real-World AI Example Transforming Designer Workflows 26:00 – AI Readiness Starts With Data And Asset Quality 27:14 – Preparing For AI-Driven Product Discovery 28:27 – Final Takeaway: Fewer Specifiers, Higher Stakes 29:20 – Introduction To Spec Ready Framework And Closing   Key Quotes “If you don’t have the research to back up your decisions, it’s not worth the investment.” “The brands that win aren’t the biggest—they’re the most aligned with how specifiers actually work.” “If you’re not in a designer’s top three to five brands, you’re getting cut from consideration.” “Tariffs are a brand communication opportunity, not just a supply chain problem.” “AI readiness starts with asset quality—not tool selection.” 🔗 Connect with Thrive In Design Follow Thrive In Design for insights on design leadership, business strategy, and growth in the A&D industry: Website: https://www.thriveindesign.co/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thriveindesign/ • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveindesign/ • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thriveindesign 🚀 Go Deeper with Thrive In Design Take the SpecReady™ Assessment: https://specready.co/ • Join the Thrive In Design: AI in Design Summit on May 20, 2026: https://tidsummit.com/ 👋 Connect with Nicole Nicole’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicoleben

In this episode of Thrive In Design, host Nicole Lashae Hall sits down with Brooke Taylor and Adam Kubryk, co-founders of Vendor Bootcamp, to unpack what it truly takes for hospitality vendors to stand out, get specified, and stay relevant in an increasingly competitive market. Drawing from decades of combined experience across design, branding, and global sales, Brooke and Adam reveal why most vendors struggle to differentiate—and how shifting from product-first thinking to strategic storytelling can transform your business. They break down the “Brand Story Blueprint,” offering actionable insights on how to align your messaging with what designers, purchasing agents, and owners actually care about. The conversation dives deep into common industry misconceptions, including why vendors should stop “selling to designers” and instead empower them as an extension of their sales team. You’ll also learn how process, not just product, plays a critical role in brand perception—and why simplifying your messaging (“say less, look better”) can dramatically improve your chances of being specified. Whether you're new to hospitality or looking to scale your brand presence, this episode delivers practical strategies to help you move from scattered efforts to intentional growth.   Timestamps 00:00 Introduction to Thrive In Design and episode overview 01:00 Meet Brooke Taylor & Adam Kubryk + Vendor Bootcamp origin story 03:29 Industry frustrations and the gap in vendor-focused conversations 06:06 Why vendors must align messaging with real buyer questions 07:00 The power of dual perspectives: design vs. sales 11:00 Inside Vendor Bootcamp: process, advisory board, and insights 14:16 Market realities: differentiation vs. commoditization 18:20 Case study: building a brand story that scales globally 22:00 What designers actually need from vendors 24:00 Differentiating in crowded categories (especially custom products) 28:27 Tactical advice: stop selling to designers 30:30 Understanding ROI and where your product fits in the value chain 35:37 AI in hospitality: tools vs. strategy 42:02 What vendors must unlearn to stay relevant 45:00 Final thoughts and where to connect with Vendor Bootcamp   Key Quotes “Stop selling to designers—they’re not your buyer. They’re your sales team.” “If you’re not differentiated, you’re invisible.” “Say less. Show your best. That’s what gets specified.” “Your process matters more than you think—it’s what people remember.” “If you don’t understand how your product impacts ROI, you’re just selling something.”   🔗 Connect with Adam Kubryk and Brooke Taylor To learn more about Adam Kubryk and Brooke Taylor and their work shaping the future of design and the built environment, connect with them and Vendor Bootcamp: Connect with Adam on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/adam-kubryk-12003539 Connect with Brooke on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/brookentaylor Follow Vendor Bootcamp on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/vendor-bootcamp/ Visit the Vendor Bootcamp website: https://vendorbootcamp.com/ You can also reach them directly through their email below: Adam’s Email: [email protected] Brooke’s Email: [email protected]   🔗 Connect with Thrive In Design Follow Thrive In Design for insights on design leadership, business strategy, and growth in the A&D industry: • Website: https://www.thriveindesign.co/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thriveindesign/ • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveindesign/ • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thriveindesign   🚀 Go Deeper with Thrive In Design • Take the SpecReady™ Assessment: https://specready.co/ • Join the Thrive In Design: AI in Design Summit on May 20, 2026: https://tidsummit.com/   👋 Connect with Nicole • Nicole’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicoleben