Leading Addiction Recovery Innovator, Bob Bharij: You’re Not Powerless. You’re Powerful.
S06E04 Leading Addiction Recovery Innovator, Bob Bharij: You’re Not Powerless. You’re Powerful.
The Five Women Who Shaped Bob Bharij
In this episode of People Are Everything, Julia Duthie speaks with Bob Bharij, co-founder of Foundation for Change, Ashoka Fellow and yoga teacher, about addiction, identity, shame, power, recovery and the five women who shaped his life.
Bob’s work challenges some of the assumptions around addiction and recovery. Through Foundation for Change, he helps people understand the relationship between trauma, mental health, social inequality, shame and addiction — and how learning, critical thinking and systemic understanding can help people move from feeling powerless to recognising their own power.
This is a conversation about systems, identity and the stories we tell ourselves. It is also a deeply personal conversation about Bob’s mother, Madonna, Björk, Linda Bush and Eileen Gautier — five women who each shaped the way Bob understands authenticity, courage, power, creativity, leadership, the body and the self.
Together, Julia and Bob explore what it means to move from “addict” to person, why labels can both help and limit us, how pop culture can open a portal into another world, what a first manager can do for someone’s life, and why yoga can become far more than movement.
At the heart of this episode is a powerful idea:
You are not powerless. You are powerful.
Time Stamps
00:00 Intro
01:23 Welcome to People Are Everything
03:33 How Bob and Julia were introduced by Martin Morales
05:45 Foundation for Change and Bob’s purpose
06:43 Addiction, systems, trauma and shame
12:31 Feminist theory and addiction recovery
19:58 AA, twelve-step recovery and alternative approaches
25:12 The double-edged sword of labels
27:43 Choosing the five people who shaped Bob
29:42 Number 1: Bob’s mum
31:55 A suitcase, a sewing machine and £10
39:28 Permission to be different
41:18 Number 2: Madonna
43:12 Madonna as a portal into another world
45:47 Madonna, taboo and the power of pop culture
51:50 Number 3: Björk
56:16 Unapologetic female voices
58:56 Bringing soul into the craft
1:03:04 Number 4: Linda Bush
1:06:32 Emotional range and the first manager who changed everything
1:08:01 Holding power with care, love and respect
1:14:09 Existential philosophy and the DNA of Foundation for Change
1:15:08 Number 5: Eileen Gautier
1:17:21 Yoga is not about yoga poses
1:20:07 Movement, play and being in the body
1:22:12 Yoga as a practice of being
1:28:22 Sitting with discomfort and slow change
1:32:32 The stories we tell ourselves
1:34:14 Julia reflects on Bob’s five people
1:36:20 The feminine force and unapologetic authenticity
1:39:11 Patriarchy as a system
1:40:43 Who should Julia speak to next?
1:42:58 Final thanks
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To find out more about Bob please use the links below.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bob-bharij-a5305742/
Foundation for Change: https://www.foundationforchange.org.uk
Ashoks Fellow: https://www.ashoka.org/en-gb
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