Lunchtime BABLing with Dr. Shea Brown

In Part 2 of this Lunchtime BABLing series on AI risk, Dr. Shea Brown, CEO of BABL AI, is joined again by Jeffery Recker to continue their lightning-round exploration of the real challenges organizations face when deploying AI. This episode dives deeper into critical concepts such as model drift, bias vs. discrimination, and growing explainability gaps in modern AI systems — especially as organizations increasingly rely on large language models and automated decision-making tools. Together, they discuss: -What model drift is and how organizations can detect and manage it -Why users (not just developers) should understand performance drift in AI systems -The important distinction between statistical bias and illegal discrimination -How bias can emerge even when demographic data isn’t explicitly used -The role of diversity of thought and structured risk assessments in uncovering AI risks -Why explainability is becoming harder as AI models grow more complex -The trade-offs between performance, trust, fairness, and regulatory compliance The conversation also explores broader questions around how AI is being used today, the limitations of “black-box” systems, and why validation, testing, and governance are becoming essential capabilities for organizations adopting AI at scale. Check out the babl.ai website for more stuff on AI Governance and Responsible AI!

Data Poisoning to Hallucinations: The Many Risks of AI | Part 1 In this episode of Lunchtime BABLing, Dr. Shea Brown, CEO of BABL AI, is joined by Jeffery Recker for a fast-paced, unscripted deep dive into the real risks behind today’s AI systems. From data poisoning and model inversion to prompt injection, membership inference, and AI hallucinations, this lightning-round conversation breaks down the security, governance, and reliability challenges organizations must understand before deploying AI at scale. But this episode doesn’t stop at definitions. Shea and Jeffery also explore: - The difference between direct vs. indirect prompt injection - Whether AI hallucinations can ever truly be “solved” - Why AI isn’t a truth machine - Whether we’re using AI the wrong way - What responsible validation should look like in enterprise AI deployment As AI systems move from experimentation into real-world decision-making, understanding these risks isn’t optional — it’s foundational. If you're working in AI governance, assurance, compliance, risk, or deploying AI inside your organization, this conversation will help you think more critically about how these systems actually behave. 🎯 Take the FREE assessment here: https://shea-1mb3pmep.scoreapp.com/ Check out the babl.ai website for more stuff on AI Governance and Responsible AI!

In this episode of Lunchtime BABLing, BABL AI CEO Dr. Shea Brown introduces the new AI Test, Evaluation, & Red Teaming Specialist Bootcamp—a hands-on, technical program designed to train the next generation of AI assurance professionals. Drawing directly from BABL AI’s internal methodologies used to audit and evaluate high-risk AI systems across industries, this bootcamp addresses one of the most critical gaps in the AI ecosystem: the lack of practical training in how to design, execute, and interpret rigorous AI testing and red teaming in real-world contexts. Dr. Brown explains: -Why AI testing, evaluation, and red teaming are essential for high-risk AI systems -How BABL AI developed its internal, risk-driven testing and assurance frameworks -The difference between auditing AI systems and directly evaluating and validating them -What participants will learn during the five-week, hands-on bootcamp -The prerequisites, structure, and technical depth of the program -How this bootcamp will evolve into BABL’s new AI Test, Evaluation, & Red Teaming Specialist Certification -This exclusive early adopter cohort is limited to approximately 30 participants and is designed for professionals with foundational knowledge in AI auditing, governance, or assurance who want to develop practical technical capabilities in AI evaluation and red teaming. -Participants will learn how to move systematically from an AI use case to defensible test results—building real test plans, executing evaluations, and developing assurance-relevant conclusions using BABL’s proven frameworks. Take the test to see if you are a good candidate for the AI Test, Evaluation, & Red Teaming Specialist Bootcamp: https://zfrmz.eu/RBroC4VLZ9I41ihKl1XV Learn more about BABL AI Certifications: www.babl.ai About Lunchtime BABLing: Lunchtime BABLing is hosted by Dr. Shea Brown, CEO of BABL AI, an independent AI assurance firm that audits algorithms for bias, risk, and governance. The podcast explores AI auditing, governance, regulation, and technical assurance practices shaping the future of trustworthy AI. Check out the babl.ai website for more stuff on AI Governance and Responsible AI!

In this episode of Lunchtime BABLing, BABL AI CEO Dr. Shea Brown sits down with Mert Çuhadaroğlu, Program Manager of BABL AI’s AI & Algorithm Auditor Certification Program, for an in-depth conversation about careers in AI governance, responsible AI, and what it really takes to become an AI auditor. Mert shares his unique professional journey — from banking and finance, to career coaching and publishing, to becoming a leading figure in AI ethics and auditing. Now based in Istanbul, Mert plays a critical role in guiding and evaluating BABL AI certification students, including reviewing capstone projects and supporting professionals from a wide range of backgrounds. Together, Shea and Mert discuss: What makes BABL AI’s AI & Algorithm Auditor Certification different from other AI governance programs Whether you need a technical background to succeed in AI auditing The real-world demand for AI auditors and AI governance professionals Common career paths for certification graduates What students actually do in the capstone project (including LLM and generative AI use cases) How BABL AI’s certifications compare to other industry credentials An overview of BABL AI’s additional certification programs, including EU AI Act Quality Management Systems, AI Governance for Business Professionals, and AI for Legal Professionals This episode is both a behind-the-scenes look at BABL AI’s training philosophy and a practical guide for anyone considering a career in AI assurance, audit, or governance. Check out the babl.ai website for more stuff on AI Governance and Responsible AI!

What does a Chief AI Compliance Officer actually do—and does your organization secretly need one already? 🤔 In this episode of Lunchtime BABLing, BABL AI CEO Dr. Shea Brown is joined by co-hosts Jeffery Recker and Bryan Ilg to unpack what it really takes to own AI risk, compliance, and governance inside a modern organization. Drawing on BABL AI’s AI Compliance Officer Program and years of audit work, they break down the real pain points leaders are facing and how to move from confusion to a concrete plan. Whether you’ve just been handed “AI compliance” on top of your day job, or you’re building AI products and worried about regulations, this one’s for you. In this episode, they discuss: What a Chief AI Compliance Officer role looks like in practice – Why it often lands on general counsel, chief compliance officers, or chief AI officers – Why this work can’t be owned by one person alone The 3-part structure of BABL AI’s AI Compliance Officer Program AI foundations – Governance, AI management systems, policies, procedures, and documentation Fractional AI Compliance Officer support – Access to BABL’s research and audit team on an ongoing basis Continuous monitoring & measurement – Keeping up with self-learning, changing AI systems over time How to build an AI system inventory and triage risk – Simple rubric for identifying high, medium, and low-risk AI systems – When to treat a system as “high risk” by default – Why simplicity is the antidote to feeling overwhelmed Key AI risks every organization should know about – Data poisoning and how malicious instructions can sneak into your systems – Shadow AI (employees using unapproved tools like personal ChatGPT accounts) – Model & data drift and why “it worked when we launched it” isn’t good enough – How these risks connect to reputation, regulatory exposure, and business strategy Why governance, risk & compliance (GRC) is not a “brake” on innovation – How good governance actually lets you move faster and more confidently – The value of a “SWAT team” style AI compliance function vs. going it alone Who should watch/listen? General counsel, chief compliance officers, chief risk officers Chief AI / data / technology leaders Product owners building AI-powered tools Anyone who’s just been told: “You’re now responsible for AI compliance.” 🫠 Check out the babl.ai website for more stuff on AI Governance and Responsible AI!

In this follow-up to our episode on AI, training, and the job market, BABL AI CEO Dr. Shea Brown is joined again by COO Jeffery Recker and Chief of Staff Emily Brown to get practical about one big question: How do you actually implement AI into your career… without losing yourself (or your job) in the process? Whether you’re secure in your role, worried about layoffs, or actively changing careers, this episode focuses on tactical, realistic steps you can start taking this week. 🎧 In this episode, we cover: How to start using large language models (LLMs) and agents in your day-to-day work Concrete examples for roles like lawyers, accountants, marketers, operations, HR, teachers, and journalists What to do if your manager or organization is afraid of AI (data leaks, reputation risk, etc.) How to avoid “AI slop” and become the person who provides clear, minimal, high-value outputs A practical plan if you’ve been laid off or see layoffs coming: dual-track job search + AI pivot Using AI ethically for resumes, ATS filters, and video interviews—without fabricating experience Why you should make an “AI inventory” of tools already in your life (spoiler: it’s more than you think) How to set boundaries with AI so it augments your work, not your identity or mental health Mindset shifts for people who don’t feel “technical” but still need to adapt Check out the babl.ai website for more stuff on AI Governance and Responsible AI!

In this latest episode of Lunchtime BABLing, hosted by BABL AI CEO Dr. Shea Brown with COO Jeffery Recker and—making her first appearance—Chief of Staff Emily Brown, we dig into what today’s AI-shaped job market really means for knowledge workers, how to build durable skills, and why “human in the loop” still matters—especially in marketing, ops, and hiring. 🎧 What you’ll learn Why AI anxiety is spiking—and how to respond with deliberate upskilling The #1 meta-skill: building a strong filter (concise, expert-informed outputs > AI slop) How AI literacy translates to any role (marketing, people ops, compliance, product) Practical ways to pivot toward Responsible AI / AI assurance / AI auditing Why specialization beats chasing every trend (go narrow, go deep, then pivot) The value of community: mentorship, peer feedback, and portfolio/capstone work Check out the babl.ai website for more stuff on AI Governance and Responsible AI!

From lesson-planning to long-haul trucking, good schedules make the world run—literally. In this episode, BABL AI CEO Dr. Shea Brown sits down with Leon Ingelse, writer-researcher at Croatian optimization studio Dots & Lines, to unpack the hidden math, ethics, and human stories behind modern scheduling and routing. 🔑 What we cover Hard vs. soft constraints – why “can’t” and “prefer not to” need different math Digital twins – building a virtual copy of a business before you touch the real one Fairness & “karma” scheduling – balancing preferences over weeks, months, years Transparency & compliance – explaining a timetable (and the laws baked into it) Human-in-the-loop vs. full automation – when you still want a person pressing “publish” Optimization ≠ LLMs – where stochastic AI falls short and formal models shine The future of Dots & Lines and why bespoke solutions often beat off-the-shelf products Check out the babl.ai website for more stuff on AI Governance and Responsible AI!

Ever wondered how to start a career in AI Governance, Responsible AI, or AI Risk Management? In this episode of Lunchtime BABLing, BABL AI CEO Dr. Shea Brown is joined by COO Jeffery Recker and CSO Bryan Ilg for a no-nonsense, practical conversation about how to actually break in to this fast-growing, high-demand field. 🌟 What you'll learn in this episode ✅ What AI governance really is (and why it matters in every business using AI) ✅ The 3 main career paths into AI governance: Dedicated governance roles Expanding your current role to include AI oversight Building something new as an entrepreneur/intrapreneur ✅ Do you need to be technical? How much? ✅ The real skills hiring managers want ✅ How to transition from zero experience to credible candidate ✅ Why governance is essential for scaling AI safely and responsibly 🧭 Key themes Hands-on learning: You have to use AI to govern AI Systems thinking: Understanding how decisions get made at scale Risk awareness: The #1 thing employers want Building your profile: Projects, credentials, volunteering, networking Niche strategy: Why specializing beats general buzzwords Marathon mindset: This is not a quick certification cash-in Check out the babl.ai website for more stuff on AI Governance and Responsible AI!

In this fun and thought-provoking episode of Lunchtime BABLing, BABL AI CEO and AI ethicist Dr. Shea Brown is joined by COO Jeffery Recker and CSO Bryan Ilg for a rapid-fire discussion on some of the most surprising, bizarre, and controversial uses of AI circulating online. From jailbreaking legal loopholes with ChatGPT, to AI-generated testimony from the deceased, to digital therapy bots and AI relationships—no use case is off-limits. The trio explores the ethical, legal, and emotional implications of everyday AI encounters, reacting in real-time with humor, insight, and a healthy dose of skepticism. 🎧 Topics include: Can AI help someone get out of jail? Is it ethical to use AI-generated avatars in court? Talking to an AI version of a dead loved one—grief or avoidance? Should AI replace your therapist? Professors using ChatGPT to grade student essays AI as your relationship coach (or third wheel) Confirmation bias and the future of learning in the AI age 💬 This episode steps away from regulation and compliance to explore how AI is quietly reshaping human behavior—and whether we’re ready for it. Check out the babl.ai website for more stuff on AI Governance and Responsible AI!