Inside Job

What happens when one of the world’s oldest professions begins learning entirely new tools? Today, Matt talks with robotic surgeon Dr. Alex Fondaw to explore how surgery is quietly transforming in the age of artificial intelligence. But this conversation is about more than medical technology. It’s about what happens when tools evolve faster than training, when human expertise becomes harder to teach, and why the future of work may depend less on replacement and more on how professionals adapt alongside increasingly intelligent machines. Contact us if you have a story to share, whether it’s your current role, your job search, feedback on a particular episode, or ideas for future conversations, we want to hear from you. You can contribute anonymously or join us as a featured guest. *Inside Job is a podcast about work told by the people who actually do it. Hosted by ⁠⁠Matt Sunbulli⁠⁠ Engineered & Edited by Joe Deshano Executive Produced by⁠⁠ Aaron Calafato ⁠⁠

Inside Jobs Reacts: Host ⁠Matt Sunbulli⁠ and Executive Producer⁠ Aaron Calafato⁠ unpack the emotional, ethical, and economic questions emerging from the worker stories behind today’s rapidly changing AI economy — and the headlines reshaping modern work in real time. This episode, after profiling two workers caught inside the new AI economy, Matt and Aaron come back together to unpack what the shows last two profile episodes reveal about work, automation, and the growing uncertainty surrounding the future of employment. One worker made nearly $70,000 a year training AI models while still in college. Another spent nearly two decades inside the hidden world of AI data annotation. Together, their stories expose the largely invisible human labor helping build today’s artificial intelligence systems — and the unsettling reality that many of those same workers may now be vulnerable to disruption themselves. In this episode: The hidden human workforce behind AI training Why general AI annotation work is disappearing Microsoft buyouts, layoffs, and the larger anxiety surrounding AI automation The growing fragility facing both young workers and seasoned professionals Whether AI is truly “assisting” workers or quietly replacing tasks altogether Why the modern economy feels productive and unstable at the same time

In this episode, Matt Sunbulli (Host) steps inside the hidden world of AI work through two different stories. First, we meet Krista, a longtime AI data worker who has spent more than a decade doing the invisible labor behind recommendation systems, chatbots, generative AI, facial recognition, and data labeling. From her living room in Michigan, Krista explains what it really means to chase tasks across platforms, weigh pay rates against ethics, and live with the instability of work that most people never see. Then we meet Isaiah, a Northwestern student who stumbled into a $50-an-hour job training AI. What began as a vague recruiter message turned into rent money, long hours, and a front-row seat to how quickly AI models learn. For Isaiah, AI wasn’t just a headline or a threat. It was a job. Together, their stories reveal the human workforce behind artificial intelligence: the data workers, AI trainers, taskers, reviewers, and invisible laborers teaching machines how to talk, reason, see, and respond. *Inside Job is a podcast about work told by the people who actually do it. The show is Hosted by Matt Sunbulli, Executive Produced by Aaron Calafato and is a proud member of the YAP Media Network.

Host Matt Sunbulli and Executive Producer Aaron Calafato introduce this new podcast series. Reach us at: https://www.insidejobpodcast.com/

Inside Jobs Reacts: Host Matt Sunbulli and Executive Producer Aaron Calafato unpack the emotional, ethical, and economic questions emerging from the worker stories behind today’s rapidly changing AI economy — and the headlines reshaping modern work in real time. This episode, after profiling two workers caught inside the new AI economy, Matt and Aaron come back together to unpack what the shows last two profile episodes reveal about work, automation, and the growing uncertainty surrounding the future of employment. One worker made nearly $70,000 a year training AI models while still in college. Another spent nearly two decades inside the hidden world of AI data annotation. Together, their stories expose the largely invisible human labor helping build today’s artificial intelligence systems — and the unsettling reality that many of those same workers may now be vulnerable to disruption themselves. In this episode: The hidden human workforce behind AI training Why general AI annotation work is disappearing Microsoft buyouts, layoffs, and the larger anxiety surrounding AI automation The growing fragility facing both young workers and seasoned professionals Whether AI is truly “assisting” workers or quietly replacing tasks altogether Why the modern economy feels productive and unstable at the same time

A college student takes a $50-an-hour job training artificial intelligence and ends up making $70,000 in a single year. But behind the money is a hidden world of digital labor, where real people shape how AI thinks, responds, and sounds—and where the work is already starting to disappear. In this episode of Inside Job, host Matt Sunbulli profiles Isaiah, a college-age AI trainer, and together they take listeners inside a hidden layer of the tech economy. What they uncover reveals the human force behind AI—and raises urgent questions about where this work is headed and what it means for all of us.

Inside Job host and creator Matt Sunbulli and executive producer Aaron Calafato set the stage for the new series, preview upcoming stories, and explain why starting with listening first and honoring the real experiences of job seekers and workers matters more than ever as AI reshapes the future of work. In doing so, they show what sets this podcast apart from others in the career space today. *If you have a story to share, an episode idea or want to join our community visit: insidejobpodcast.com

Hosted by Matt Sunbulli and executive produced by Aaron Calafato, this pilot episode of the Inside Job Podcast pulls back the curtain on one of the fastest-growing and least understood roles in the economy: AI data work. We hear from Krista, a longtime data worker in Michigan, whose job is to quietly shape the intelligence behind the tools millions of people use every day. “I’m teaching AI how to talk… how to see… how to think.” But behind the promise of AI is something far more human: A living room turned into a workplace A constant search for tasks and income Ethical dilemmas about the work itself The isolation that comes with invisible labor What sounds like cutting-edge technology is, in reality, a marketplace of clicks, decisions, and human judgment. This episode introduces a new kind of storytelling about work, inspired by Working by Studs Terkel, capturing not just how people make a living, but how they make sense of it. Because behind every “intelligent” system…there’s still a person.

The team digs through the archives of The Lonely Office and notices a pattern: even as work keeps changing, human nature doesn’t. From AI-driven layoffs to the strange new reality of job searching, Aaron, Matt, Leah, and Ken revisit some of the show’s most revealing conversations about meaning, work, and what might come next. Important Note from the TLO team: Hey TLO listeners, for those who enjoyed our bonus series Ask a Recruiter, that conversation is still going. This spring, find AAR live on Glassdoor's LinkedIn and YouTube, where hiring managers, career coaches, and talent leaders give you real talk on the job market - and ask your questions in real time. To be notified, follow us on LinkedIn: ⁠www.linkedin.com/company/glassdoor Also, 50 years working at a 7/11, bro gets an email

“Follow your passion” sounds great until you are burned out, laid off, or stuck in the same role for years. In this Ask a Recruiter bonus episode, Leah Ova sits down with career coach and Finding Brave host Kathy Caprino to unpack what is missing when vision boards and inspirational quotes stop working. They break down the bravery and power gaps that keep people stuck, plus practical moves to get clear, get visible, and make a realistic career pivot in today’s job market. Important Note from the TLO team: Hey TLO listeners, this will be the last Ask a Recruiter episode you’ll hear as part of this show. The AAR conversation isn't ending -  it's just getting started. This spring, find AAR live on LinkedIn and YouTube, where hiring managers, career coaches, and talent leaders give you real talk on the job market - and ask your questions in real time. To be notified, follow us on Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/company/glassdoor