Messy Middles, Access, and Evolving with Kerrilynn Pamer, founder of CAP Beauty [REPOST]

This is a conversation with Kerrilynn Pamer, founder of CAP Beauty. It was recorded recently at her kitchen table with the scent of a walnut cake in the oven filling the room. She was first on in 2021 where we talked about starting CAP, cooking, and personal style, and I’ve been dying to have her back ever since. This episode covers updates on topics discussed last time plus we talk about: having a fixed vs. growth mindset, feeling left out, friendship vs. acquaintances, taking a psychological approach to aging, beauty, developing taste, interiors (including how to make your home feel like a supportive friend), and much more. She’s one of my all-time favorite guests. Let us know if you listen! Show notes:- CAP Beauty: code LETITOUT for 10% off your order | @capbeautydaily- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack (read the post I mention about eggs here)- A couple spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- Jésabel's Inbox Organization course: code LETITOUT for 20% off- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 405: Stacy London is Here for Us: Iconic Stylist & Host on Body Image, Dressing, Career Pivots, Aging, Becoming CEO of Menopause & More

This is a conversation is with Kerrilynn Pamer, co-founder of the wellness company CAP Beauty. We recorded this at her kitchen table overlooking the mountains drinking espresso. She talks about starting CAP, being in the "unsexy" middle of a project, her love of cooking and sharing food, her evolving personal style, how to build and sustain positive relationships, and a whole lot more. This was recorded in 2022 but I'm re-airing it today because she's returning to the show next week. I recorded a brand new interview with her where we reference some of the topics we discussed here and she gives updates of what happened since, so stay tuned for that next week!  Show notes:- CAP Beauty: code LETITOUT for 10% off your purchase | @capbeautydaily- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- A couple spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- Jésabel's Inbox Organization course: code LETITOUT for 20% off- Check out Katie's one-on-one Creative Clinic

This week I spoke to my close friend, chef, author, and screenwriter Phoebe Lapine. She is one of the most creative and self-aware people I know, and I deeply admire her and her work. We met years ago when I interviewed her when her book The Wellness Project came out and then again for her last book which was about SIBO. She has a new cookbook out now, called Carbivore, which I have been learning to cook from. We catch up in this episode about the topic of this new project which is, of course, carbs: we get into what led to carbs being demonized by the diet industry, what sugar and carbs actually mean for our blood sugar, food sequencing, digestion, how overthinking all of this can be damaging, and how we’ve both been on the extreme ends and how to navigate that. Let us know if you listen. Show notes:- Phoebe's latest book: Carbivore- Phoebe's earlier books: SIBO Made Simple | The Wellness Project | In the Small Kitchen- Connect with Phoebe on The Web | Instagram- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- A couple spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- Jésabel's Inbox Organization course: code LETITOUT for 20% off If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 324: ((happy thank you more please)) cooking, toggling between projects, creativity, friendship, change and laughing hard with Phoebe Lapine

This week, Jessica Lyda returns. A friend recommended her sessions to me in 2020 and afterward I wanted to know how she got into it and have her share her wisdom here. The way that she works with people is hard to articulate, but she explains it well in this. Jessica has facilitated healing sessions with thousands of different people, from celebrities to therapists to shamans to skeptics to me! She helps you figure out some trapped emotions and how to release those. We also talk about: what to do when nothing is working, how to handle feeing stagnant, toxic relationships, setting boundaries, people-pleasing dynamics, overwhelm, catching ideas, and much more … let us know if you listen… Show Notes:- Find Jessica on the Web | Instagram- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- A couple spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- Jésabel's Inbox Organization course: code LETITOUT for 20% off If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 359 - Managing Energy and Healing with Energy Worker Jessica Lyda

This week is the second part of my conversation with longtime DJ and music producer, Free Oribhabor. He’s also the founder of The Record Club, an immersive album listening experience he hosts monthly in LA. As the LA Times put it, "He wanted to create a music listening experience that replicated the grandiose feeling of sitting in a theater and watching a film with other fans." As you’ll hear in these conversations (and you’ve felt if you’ve danced while he’s DJ-ing or been in the audience while he unpacks a favorite album) his enthusiasm is palpable. In this we not only talk about the origin of The Record Club but also expanding it in the future while maintaining the intimate vision he had for it early on.In part 2 we talk about how his musical taste has developed, having confidence in one's taste and allowing taste to change, and he also takes questions from friends. If you missed part 1, we covered wormholes and research, being undervalued in education, and making money doing many different things (being a jack-of-all-trades) which can mean that things take longer. Let us know if you listen. Show Notes:- Follow Free @yeafree + The Record Club @therecord.club- LA Times article on The Record Club- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- 2 spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- Jésabel's Inbox Organization course: code LETITOUT for 20% off If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 441 - Madelynn De La Rosa Returns (Part 1 of 2) Reinvention, Resolutions, Cinema, etc.

This week is part 1 of a 2-part conversation I had with longtime DJ and music producer, Free Oribhabor. He’s also the founder of The Record Club, an immersive album listening experience he hosts monthly in LA. As the LA Times put it, "He wanted to create a music listening experience that replicated the grandiose feeling of sitting in a theater and watching a film with other fans." As you’ll hear in these conversations (and you’ve felt if you’ve danced while he’s DJ-ing or been in the audience while he unpacks a favorite album) his enthusiasm is palpable. In this we not only talk about the origin of The Record Club but also expanding it in the future while maintaining the intimate vision he had for it early on.In part 1 we talk about wormholes and research, being undervalued in education, making money doing many different things (being a jack-of-all-trades) which can mean that things take longer. And in part 2 we get into how his musical taste has developed, having confidence in taste, allowing taste to change, and he takes questions for friends. Let us know if you listen. Show Notes:- Follow Free @yeafree + The Record Club @therecord.club- LA Times article on The Record Club- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- 2 spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- Jésabel's Inbox Organization course: code LETITOUT for 20% off If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 424 - Perfection Bubbles Burst: Musician Sam Burton on Collaboration, Tarot, Criticism & More

This week, a conversation with iconic designer Norma Kamali. Recorded over Zoom from her office in Manhattan, we cover her 50-year career, from graduating from FIT with a degree in illustration to working for Northwest Airlines—which allowed her to fly to London on the weekends for only $29. It felt like a time capsule to hear her talk about the cultural revolution in London in the 1960s and how she would bring back pieces for friends, which led her to start a store, and eventually design her own pieces. Soon her designs were worn by Bianca Jagger, Bette Midler, and Cher. But at 29 Norma left her marriage, which meant walking away from the brand she’d quietly built with only $98 in her pocket. But starting over ultimately led her to create a brand with longevity and panache. From her unique sleeping bag coat design (worn by the doormen at Studio 54 and by those standing outside hoping it would increase their chances of getting in) to the now-iconic red swimsuit Farrah Fawcett wore on that famous poster, Norma has dressed generations. She’s full of wisdom and perspective and gently gives me advice on everything from aging, to dating (she fell in love again ten years ago at 65), to how she views busyness—she says “the more you do, the more you can do.” We get into her thoughts on her industry’s evolution and on upcoming generations. I hope I did her career and story justice in this conversation with a real icon. Show notes:- Find Norma on the Web | Instagram- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- 2 spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- Kayleen Schaefer's episode- Kayleen's book, Text Me When You Get Home- Take the "We Don't Talk Anymore" survey on friend breakups- Learn more about my creative consulting & if you'd like to book a free session, book here!- Learn more about "Soft Stories"

This week’s guest, Jacqueline Suskin, is a poet, educator, and the author of eight books, with work featured in publications including the New York Times, the Atlantic, and the Los Angeles Times. Her newest book, A Year in Practice, is a practical guide for using the natural seasons to inform creative rhythms, and how our rhythms are drawn from those of the earth.She now lives in Detroit where she works as a teaching artist with InsideOut Literary Arts, bringing nature poetry into classrooms with her Poem Forest curriculum. She spent many years living in Los Angeles where she began an ongoing project called Poem Store where she composed over forty thousand improvisational poems. In this conversation, we spoke about her transition from living in a place with very slight seasonal difference to a climate where the seasons are clear; how she protects her creative practice by experimenting with what works for her and developing deep discipline to maintain it; the power of saying no; hinging on the brink of success; committing to finding sources of energy that feel consistent and fulfilling, rather than draining; the intensity of spring; seasonal transitions and more. She even reads a poem.Show Notes:- Find Jacqueline on the Web | Instagram | A Year In Practice- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack- 2 spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- More on Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist- Check out the Let It Out Kits | Write Kit | Talk Kit Waitlist- Inbox Organization course: code LETITOUT for 20% offIf you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 333: Taking up space, acceptance, mindfulness in motherhood & catching ideas with Mari Orkenyi

This week I spoke with decluttering expert and author Tracy McCubbin on why filling our homes with stuff makes us feel empty, aging and how she both got married and started her business later in life, and why connection and being helpful to others prevents clutter. Tracy came to my apartment and in this you'll hear her help figure out what's been preventing me from making some necessary changes and how you can make them too. Let us know if you listen. Show Notes:- Find Tracy on the Web | Instagram | Books- All of our self-study workshops: Let It Out Kits - Inbox Organization course: code LETITOUT for 20% off- Our Substack- My Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- TALK KIT waitlist- Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist- IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:Episode 425: Mindful Space Design: Anjie Cho Returns

In honor of Valentine’s Day it’s an episode about romantic love… just kidding it’s about breakups! It's part variety show from 2019 where I compiled all of the times (up until then) I spoke with guests on how heartbreak, grief, and sadness can lead to growth. I play some of my favorite clips from my conversations with manifestation advisor and founder of To Be Magnetic, Lacy Phillips, herbalist and founder of Supernatural, Rachelle Robinett, writer and designer Robyn Kanner, author Sara Avant Stover, dancer and writer Cody Cook-Parrott, illustrator and author Mari Andrew, artist Jon Marro, writer Jessica Ciencin Henriquez, musician Yoke Lore, director Kristin Hanggi ... it sounds like a bummer of an episode but it was actually quite optimistic, full of wisdom, and even at times funny. Then I react to hearing their advice 5 years later, talk about if I took it and what has happened since…Let me know if you listen : ) Show Notes:- Breakups Kits- Inbox Organization course: code LETITOUT for 20% off- Our Substack- My Creative Clinic: book a call with me here- TALK KIT waitlist- Creative Underdogs/In Process here | waitlist- IG: @letitouttt + @katiedaleboutFull episodes of guests in this episode:Rachelle RobinettRobyn KannerSara Avant StoverCody Cook-ParrottMari AndrewJon MarroJessica Ciencin HenriquezLacy Phillips Valentines day episodeYoke LoreKristin Hanggi and Maddie Korman