Ep 20 — Fifth Circuit WTF? (Feat Chris Geidner)

Project 2025 is the right’s manifesto on how to break the government and turn America into a Christian nationalist state. It’s also deeply weird — just like the guys who wrote it. We’ll break down 20 of the craziest policy proposals, and then take a deep dive into the plan to replace the civil service with an army of MAGA loyalists. Links: GOP Whines That It’s No Fair That Kamala Gets Joe’s Money https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/gop-whines-that-its-no-fair-kamala Project 2025 https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf Pendleton Civil Service Reform Act of 1883, 5 U.S.C. Chapter 23 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/part-III/subpart-A/chapter-23 Trump Executive Order 13957 https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2020-10-26/pdf/2020-23780.pdf Biden EO 14003 (repealing Trump EO 13957) https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2021-01-27/pdf/2021-01924.pdf 5 CFR Parts 210, 212, 213, 302, 432, 451, and 752 https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2024-06815.pdf Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Biden is out, Kamala is all but in, and the GOP is freaking out. We’ll break down potential Republican legal challenges to a Harris candidacy. Subscribers will get an extended curbstomping of Jonathan Turley’s galaxy brain plan to 25th Amendment Biden out of the last six months of his term.   Links: Louisiana notice of compliance https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.lamd.64943/gov.uscourts.lamd.64943.32.0.pdf DNC 2024 Call For the DNC https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2024-Call-for-Convention.pdf DNC 2024 Delegate Selection Rules https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2024-Delegate-Selection-Rules.pdf DNC Charter and bylaws https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/DNC-Charter-Bylaws-03.12.2022.pdf 25th Amendment https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxxv Constitution, Art. II, Section 1, Cl. 6 (“Succession Clause”) https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S1-C6-1/ALDE_00013693/ 3 USC § 19 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/19 52 USC § 30102 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/30102 11 CFR § 103.4 https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/103.4 Revised FEC Form 1 “Harris for President” https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00703975/1805326// Heritage Foundation June 21 memo https://x.com/OversightPR/status/1805239354505257196   Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Rudy Giuliani discovers that getting out of bankruptcy court is harder than falling on your keyster at the RNC. And New Mexico prosecutors discover one weird trick to blow up a criminal case. (It is the Brady rule!) Plus Patreons get an update on the Louisiana ten commandments mandate. Links: NMSA 30-2-3 https://law.justia.com/codes/new-mexico/chapter-30/article-2/section-30-2-3/ NMSA 30-7-4 https://law.justia.com/codes/new-mexico/chapter-30/article-7/section-30-7-4/ Alec Baldwin docket https://caselookup.nmcourts.gov/caselookup/app?component=cnLink&page=SearchResults&service=direct&session=T&sp=SD-101-CR-202400013 Baldwin MTD Failure to state an offense https://nmcourts.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/May-6-2024-Defendant-Alex-Baldwin-Motion-to-Dismiss-the-Indictment-for-Failure-to-Allege-a-Criminal-Offense-10-53-pm.pdf Baldwin MTD Destruction of evidence https://nmcourts.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/May-6-2024-Defendant-Alex-Baldwin-Motion-to-Dismiss-the-Indictment-with-Prejudice-Based-on-the-State-Destruction-of-Evidence-10-32-pm.pdf Baldwin Addendum re destruction of evidence https://nmcourts.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/June-17-2024-Addendum-to-Defendants-Motion-to-Dismiss-based-on-the-Destruction-of-Evidence-456p.pdf Baldwin June 24 MTD Brady https://nmcourts.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/June-24-2024-Defendants-Motion-for-Relief-for-States-Brady-and-State-Law-Disclosure-Violations-Related-to-Non-Firearm-Discovery-240p.pdf Baldwin July 11 MTD Brady https://nmcourts.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/July-11-2024-Defendants-Motion-for-Dismissal-and-Sanctions-under-Brady-Giglio-and-Rule-5-501-752p.pdf Roake v. Brumley - Louisiana Ten Commandments - Status update https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.lamd.64943/gov.uscourts.lamd.64943.31.0.pdf Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Judge Cannon blows up the documents case by declaring special counsels illegal. All she had to do was ignore 50 years of precedent, five federal statutes, and two Supreme cases. Glove up for a deep dive, with Liz and Andrew.   Links: Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

A Trump trial judge decides to overturn Supreme Court precedent on home distilling. And speaking of sobriety … we’ll check in on Rudy Giuliani’s attempt to replicate Alex Jones’s stunning success in the bankruptcy court. Patreons get an extra field trip to Congress, where Oversight Chair James Comer invites the Biden administration to say where it would like to be kicked.    Links: Wait, The Fifth Circuit Is Snatching Cases From Other Circuits Now? https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/the-fifth-circuit-is-snatching-cases 26 USC 5178 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/5178 26 USC 5601 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/5601 HDA complaint https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txnd.384014/gov.uscourts.txnd.384014.1.0.pdf HDA docket https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68073961/hobby-distillers-association-v-alcohol-and-tobacco-tax-and-trade-bureau/ HDA decision https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txnd.384014/gov.uscourts.txnd.384014.49.0_1.pdf FRCP 26 https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_26 Freeman v. Giuliani (DC docket) https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/61642105/freeman-v-giuliani/ Giuliani stipulation https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.238720/gov.uscourts.dcd.238720.84.2_1.pdf 11 USC 362 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/11/362 Giuliani May MOR https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064.267.0.pdf Giuliani May exhibits https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064.267.4.pdf House GOP Letters to Biden Agencies Post-Chevron https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/07.10.2024-Letters-to-federal-agencies-regarding-Loper-Bright-v.-Raimondo.pdf Distillers Want to Decriminalize Making Booze at Home https://www.texasobserver.org/distillers-decriminalize-home-booze/ Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Today we have a deep dive into the absolute havoc SCOTUS’s immunity ruling will wreak in Trump’s document theft case — even though he was out of the White House when he committed his crimes! But first, the election denying weirdos and their election denying lawyers are Froot Looping all over the docket in the Dominion defamation case. And for subscribers: a discussion of the Alex Jones bankruptcy debacle.   Links: 18 USC 333 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/333 John Case in 2015 https://www.evanscase.com/john-case-senior-partner-at-evans-case-llp-attorney-named-colorado-super-lawyer/ John Case today https://www.johncaselaw.com/ Trump v. US https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf 18 USC 793 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793 Trump SDFL Motion to Dismiss for Selective and Vindictive Prosecution https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.508.0.pdf Alex Jones bankruptcy docket https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66583024/alexander-e-jones-and-official-committee-of-unsecured-creditors/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc Alex Jones Ch. 7 Trustee Emergency Motion https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750.720.0_1.pdf Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Liz and Andrew talk to Tech Freedom’s Corbin Barthold about two recent SCOTUS decisions involving conservative efforts to claim victimhood on social media. In Murthy v. Missouri, Missouri and Louisiana complained about the Biden administration’s efforts to push back against covid misinformation on social media. And in Moody v. Netchoice, Florida and Texas attempted to impose state controls on what social media platforms may restrict.   Links: Murthy v. Missouri (SCOTUS) https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-411new_7mio.pdf   Missouri v. Biden (5th Cir) https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/23/23-30445-CV0.pdf   Moody v. Netchoice (SCOTUS) https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/22-277_d18f.pdf   The Fifth Circuit is Snatching Cases From Other Circuits Now? https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/the-fifth-circuit-is-snatching-cases Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

SCOTUS gives Trump everything his heart desires and more. Not only does he get to stay out of jail, he gets to be king if he wins again. Liz and Andrew break down the disaster. Links: Trump v. US https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf The Court’s Fischer Ruling Is a Symbolic Setback for the Justice Department—But One With Modest Consequences — by Roger Parloff https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-court-s-fischer-ruling-is-a-symbolic-setback-for-the-justice-department-but-one-with-modest-consequences Loper Bright Enterprises v. Raimondo https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/22-451_7m58.pdf Corner Post, Inc. v. Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/22-1008_1b82.pdf City of Grants Pass v. Johnson https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-175_19m2.pdf Fischer v. United States https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-5572_l6hn.pdf SCOTUS Fall 2023 Term opinions https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/slipopinion/23 Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

In today’s episode, we check in with the Supreme Court that still has six cases left to decide, including the key decision on Presidential immunity. We break down Moyle v. US, in which the Supreme Court punted (for now) on the seemingly straightforward question of whether state abortion laws can supersede the federal EMTALA law protecting women in emergency rooms. Then, we discuss SEC v. Jarkesy, in which the Roberts Court continues to gut the administrative state, this time by restricting how the Securities and Exchange Commission can go after securities fraud. And in between, we update you on all things Aileen Cannon, who’s even worse than you imagined.    Links: Moyle v. US https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-726_6jgm.pdf Trump Motion to Dismiss for AC Privilege (Doc. 566) https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.566.0.pdf Cannon Ruling (Doc. 655) https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.655.0_1.pdf SEC v. Jarkesy https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/22-859_1924.pdf SEC Rule 10b-5 https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/17/240.10b-5   Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Today’s episode takes a look at two of the Supreme Court’s decisions from last week, US v. Rahimi, which apparently involves both gun control and time travel, and Erlinger v. US, which is an incredibly nuanced discussion of what qualifies as a prior offense under a Reagan-era federal law, so MAGA nation is of course lying about it being relevant to somehow overturning Donald Trump’s 34 state felony convictions. It isn’t. Finally, we update you as to the free-for-all unfolding now that Alex Jones’s company has been dismissed from its bankruptcy. It’s Texas justice! Links: Armed Career Criminal Act, 18 USC § 924(e)(1) https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/924   Erlinger v. US https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-370_i4dj.pdf   Rahimi v. US https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/22-915_8o6b.pdf   Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod