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Electric medium- and heavy-duty vehicles are on the rise around the world as more businesses electrify their fleets and delivery vehicles — global electric truck sales grew by almost 80% in 2024. But what does it take to build multi-megawatt charging stations to support electric fleets? Jason Berry, Vice President of Terawatt Infrastructure, joins host Sara Baldwin to discuss the challenges and innovative approaches to building the infrastructure we need to power big trucks for the long-haul.Guest Bios: Jason Berry is the Vice President of Energy & Utilities at Terawatt Infrastructure, where he leads utility engagement, energy infrastructure development, regulation, and policy for a national portfolio of private charging depots serving commercial fleet customers. Jason is an experienced leader in the energy sector with over 20 years of experience advancing emerging energy technologies, developing infrastructure, and shaping policy and regulation. He previously held senior leadership roles in energy at Amazon and Amazon Web Services, as well as in the public and utility sectors, where he managed multimillion-dollar clean energy projects and influenced various regulatory and policy initiatives. Jason holds a Master of Public Administration and a B.S. in Environmental Studies from the University of Utah.Electrifying News: Global renewable energy generation surpasses coal for first time (The Guardian, October 6, 2025)New Data Rebuts Long-Haul Misconception: Truck Electrification is Feasible on I-10 Today (Business Insider, October 15, 2025)This startup’s electric roasters cut carbon and costs from coffee-making (Canary Media, October 16, 2025)Check-out these must-read resources:Terawatt Opens Its First Medium- and Heavy-Duty EV Charging Site in California  I-10 Truck Charging Project to Cross 4 States Starting in 2027 (Heavy Duty Trucking)National Zero-Emission Medium- and Heavy-Duty Infrastructure Map (CalStart)Trends in heavy-duty electric vehicles (International Energy Agency, Global EV Outlook 2025)Powering America's Commercial TransportationRun on Less (North American Council for Freight Efficiency)Charged Initiative

The One Big Beautiful Bill is a big bad deal for U.S. households, businesses, and the climate. The law repealed numerous clean energy, efficiency, climate, and electrification incentives and funding, among other major changes. Energy Innovation’s modeling shows that the law will result in the U.S. foregoing 340 gigawatts of new electricity capacity by 2035, and an increase in wholesale electricity prices by 74 percent by 2035.  America will also lose $980 billion in cumulative GDP and around 760,000 jobs by 2030. Two experts from Advanced Energy United discuss the law, its impacts on clean energy companies and consumers, and what people and businesses can do to take advantage of expiring tax credits before they’re gone. Guest Bios: Harry Godfrey, Managing Director, leads Advanced Energy United’s Federal Priorities team, which serves as the focal point for our engagement with lawmakers on Capitol Hill and policymakers in the Administration. With experience in industry, federal government, and academia, Harry played a pivotal role in the passage of the Virginia Clean Economy Act. Before arriving at Advanced Energy United, Harry worked at Invenergy and Opower, where he developed expertise in renewable generation and energy efficiency. He previously held positions in the White House Office of Legislative Affairs and the Office of Majority Whip James E. Clyburn.Sarah Steinberg, Director, leads Advanced Energy United's building decarbonization and the natural gas transition work, developing advocacy strategies and educating key decision-makers across state houses, administrations, and agencies to accelerate the transition to 100% clean energy in the built environment. Previously, Sarah led portfolios of work in Nevada and Indiana, which focused on utility resource planning, transportation electrification, distributed energy resources, and wholesale markets. Before joining Advanced Energy United, Sarah worked as legislative staff to a State Representative in the Massachusetts State House.  Electrifying News: Court upholds a landmark clean-heat rule in Southern California (Canary Media, 7/23/25)Booming solar and storage are propping up Puerto Rico’s grid this summer (Utility Dive, 7/22/25)Massachusetts test shows big savings from free heat pumps and solar (Canary Media, 7/17/25)Check-out these must-read resources:Advanced Energy UnitedUnlocking Advanced EnergyEnergy Innovation’s Economic Impacts of the One Big Beautiful Bill ActElectrification Coalition's Ev and Charging Tax Credits After the One Big Beautiful Bill ActMake sure you use these tax credits before they’re gone (Rewiring America)Use Tax Credits for EVs and Your Home Before They're Gone (Canary Media)

Federal lawmakers and the Trump Administration are trying to put the breaks on clean electric vehicles that save people money and clear the air we breathe. What does it all mean for consumers and the burgeoning U.S. EV market? Host Sara Baldwin speaks with Mary Nichols, former chair of the California Air Resources Board and renowned leader on clean air and transportation to discuss the impacts of recent federal actions—from the One Big Beautiful Bill Act’s repeal of critical EV incentives to the Senate’s recent blockade of California’s clean vehicle policies, and federal agencies’ plans to roll back smart vehicle emission and fuel economy standards. Tune in to learn more about what’s happening and what’s needed to sustain momentum for EVs and clean transportation despite roadblocks.Guest Bio:Mary Nichols is the former chair of the California Air Resources Board, where she occupied the attorney seat; she served on the Board under Governor Edmund G. Brown, Jr. (1975–82 and 2010–18), Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger (2007–2010), and Governor Gavin Newsom (2019–2020). She also served as California’s Secretary for Natural Resources (1999–2003), appointed by Governor Gray Davis. Mary was also a senior staff attorney for the Natural Resources Defense Council; Assistant Administrator for U.S. EPA’s Office of Air and Radiation, in the administration of President William Jefferson Clinton; and headed the Institute of Environment and Sustainability at UCLA. Over a career as an environmental lawyer spanning over 45 years, Mary Nichols has played a key role in California and the nation’s progress toward healthy air. She has also led the Board in crafting California’s internationally recognized climate action plan. Nichols was awarded the Attorney of the Year award from California Lawyer Magazine (the CLAY award) for her contributions to environmental law. Nichols holds a B.A. from Cornell University and a J.D. from Yale Law School.Electrifying News:Affordable Clean Cars Coalition launches in the USA (Elctrive)Bill Ford says Michigan battery plant ‘in peril’ under proposed legislation (Automotive News)Why John Curtis says the Senate should reconsider rolling back green energy tax credits (KSL.com)To dig in deeper, check out these must-read resources: Assessing Impacts Of “One Big Beautiful Bill Act” On U.S. Energy Costs, Jobs, Health, Emissions(Energy Innovation, June 2025)Trump’s War on EVs Is an Attack on American Industry, Good-Paying Jobs, and Our Wallets(Evergreen Action, 3/5/25)Upending norms, the Senate votes to undo California's EV rules (NPR, 5/22/25)Transportation chief seeks to weaken fuel economy standards (AP News, 6/6/25)Trump EPA takes aim at Biden emissions regulations (Green Car Reports, 3/13/25)

The Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 marked the single largest investment in climate and energy in American history, supporting homegrown clean energy, electrification, and manufacturing. It has generated $600 billion in private investment across 750 clean energy projects, creating more than 406,000 new jobs. The IRA is now under threat, with calls to repeal federal funding and tax credits, risking billions investments. Host Sara Baldwin speaks with Robbie Orvis of Energy Innovation to discuss the benefits of the IRA and how repealing the IRA would harm America's economy and cost consumers. Guest Bio: Robbie Orvis is the Senior Director of Modeling and Analysis at Energy Innovation where he works with policymakers around the world to analyze legislation and regulation and provide insights on how to achieve climate goals. He has helped develop and deploy Energy Policy Simulator models in more than a dozen countries and is the lead author of Designing Climate Solutions: A Policy Guide for Low-Carbon Energy. Robbie holds a Master of Environmental Management from Yale University and a B.S. from the University of California, Berkeley.Electrifying News:More Wisconsin cities are powering municipal operations with renewable electricity (Wisconsin Public Radio)Rivian startup is focused on small, lightweight electric vehicles (LA Times)Hyundai to make ‘low-carbon’ steel at $6B plant in Louisiana (Canary Media)Must-read Resources:Inflation Reduction Act bill text (U.S. 117th Congress)Energy Policy Simulator Model (Energy Innovation)Inflation Reduction Act Repeal Harms State Economies and Raises Consumer Costs (Energy Innovation, March 2025)House Republican support grows for keeping clean energy tax breaks (Politico, 3/10/2025)

In this special valentine to the electric grid, Electrify This! host Sara Baldwin speaks with grid expert, Ric O’Connell of GridLab, about a topic front of mind for more people, utilities, and policymakers around the world: grid reliability. Demand for electricity is on the rise after decades of relatively flat load growth as more end-uses seek to connect to the grid. Simultaneously, the grid’s portfolio is diversifying as more utilities and states integrate more renewable energy, energy storage, and other clean energy technologies in the race to reduce climate emissions and stabilize the climate. While this transition has been underway for some time, converging factors are impacting the grid and uncertainty looms on the horizon. In this episode, we explore the myriad issues facing the grid and what policies and practices are needed to build a resilient, reliable, affordable clean grid to power the future.  About the guest: Ric O’Connell is the founding executive director of GridLab, where he leads a team of experts to provide comprehensive technical grid expertise to policy makers and advocates. A recognized leader in renewable energy technology and policy, Ric has provided engineering support for more than 8 GW of utility scale solar projects worldwide. Ric also served as a consultant with Black & Veatch for 12 years where helped build a global renewable energy consulting practice and led numerous high-impact policy studies. Ric has a BSEE from Duke University and a Master’s in Renewable Energy Policy from CU Boulder.Electrifying News:2025 Renewable Energy Outlook: Full speed ahead as second Trump administration begins(Utility Dive, January 21, 2025)Uncertainty over Trump’s electric vehicle policies clouds 2025 forecast for carmakers (AP News, January 9, 2025)U.S. solar cell production resumes for first time since 2019, as solar module manufacturing sets record in Q3 (Wood McKenzie and Solar Energy Industries Association, December 2024) To dig in deeper, check out these must-read resources: Grid Lab – website: https://gridlab.orgEnergy Systems Integration Group (ESIG) website https://www.esig.energy/Surplus Interconnection Policy Explainer (Grid Lab)The Future of Operational Grid Reliability Can Be Bright with Clean Energy (Energy Innovation, Real Talk on Reliability Series) Explained: Fundamentals of Power Grid Reliability and Clean Electricity (National Renewable Energy Laboratory)Meeting Growing Electricity Demand Without Gas (Energy Innovation)What’s the impact of artificial intelligence on energy demand? (Hannah Ritchie, Sustainability by Numbers, November 2024) AI and energy: The big picture (Ben Levitt, S&P Global, December 2024)   

Did you know that nearly a third of households in the U.S. face an uphill climb to drive and benefit from an EV simply because they live in multifamily housing? This is not only a climate and public health issue, but also an equity issue. Research shows that access to reliable, convenient, and affordable EV charging is one of the biggest factors for consumers considering owning or leasing an EV. But are the public charging networks sufficient to meet the need for those without at-home charging? How do different cities stack up when it comes to public charging? And what actions should policymakers take to ensure a smooth road ahead? In this episode of Electrify This! host Sara Baldwin speaks with Ingrid Malmgren, Senior Director of Policy with Plug in America, to discuss the state of EV charging for people living in multifamily housing, key findings from new Energy Innovation research, and innovative approaches states and cities are taking to solving the EV charging gap. Tune in today to learn more! Guest Bio: Ingrid has over a decade of experience advancing sustainable energy and transportation electrification through research, utility regulatory proceedings, and legislative advocacy. She began to focus on EVs in 2015, working to demonstrate the benefits of EVs to consumers, the economy, the environment, and the electric grid. Before joining Plug In America, she worked as a senior analyst at Cadmus Group, a lobbyist in the Vermont Statehouse, and a transportation policy manager at Vermont Energy Investment Corporation.  Electrifying News:  NYC looks to kick its curbside EV-charging plans into second gear (Canary Media), 09/09/24Demand flexibility programs ‘need to evolve’ as utilities shift to winter peaking: LBNL report (Utility Dive), 10/09/24Decarbonize Your Life (Heatmap News), 09/23/24Major Ohio cities aim to cut building emissions with voluntary program (Canary Media), 09/18/24  To dig in deeper, check out these must-read resources:The State of Electric Vehicle Charging for Multifamily Housing (Energy Innovation), October 2024The Home Charging Experience (Plug In America), January 2024EV Building Codes Toolkit (Plug in America)2024 EV Driver Survey (Plug In America)The Public Charging Experience (Plug In America), May 2024U.S. Department of Transportation, Charging and Fueling Infrastructure Grant RecipientsThe 2030 National Charging Network: Estimating U.S. Light-Duty Demand for Electric Vehicle Charging Infrastructure (NREL), June 2023     U.S. Department of Energy, Tax Credits for EVs and Charging Infrastructure

In the last installment of our three-part series on industrial decarbonization, we explore industrial sector decarbonization and the role electrification can play in achieving net zero goals for a stable climate. Host Sara Baldwin speaks with Blaine Collison of the Renewable Thermal Collaborative about the barriers to electrifying industrial heat processes in the U.S., and the policy, regulatory, and market changes that could put the country on track to electrify more industries. Guest Bio:Blaine Collison is the Executive Director of the Renewable Thermal Collaborative and the Senior Vice President at David Gardiner and Associates, where he helps companies and institutions advance renewable energy, energy efficiency and climate change initiatives, including industrial decarbonization. Previously he served as the managing director of marketing and partnerships at Altenex, an Edison Energy company, where he led the development of corporate sustainability services, communications, and strategic partnerships. He also served 17 years with the United States Environmental Protection Agency, with multiple roles in the Energy Star program and a decade leading the Green Power Partnership.  Electrifying News: The Race to Decarbonize Heavy Industry Heats Up  (Inside Climate News, May 2024) Massachusetts kicks off first pilot to shift gas utilities to clean heat (Canary Media, June 2024) How heat pumps can turn wasted energy into low-carbon whisky (Canary Media, June 2024) To dig in deeper, check out these must-read resources: Electrification Action Plan (Renewable Thermal Collaborative, 2024) Renewable Thermal Collaborative RTC Summit (Sept 30-Oct 1, 2024)

Transitioning the industrial sector to run on clean energy through electrification is a critical strategy to decarbonize one of our economy’s largest-emitting sectors. But electric utilities and the power grid must be able to meet increased demand from electrified industries. Effectively managing electrified load from industry requires new strategies and reliance on tried-and-true methods. This episode features Anna Johnson of the American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy (ACEEE) to discuss industrial electrification and its implications for the grid, utilities, and states.Guest Bios:  Anna Johnson is a Senior Researcher with the Industry Program for the ACEEE, where she conducts research and analysis to support industrial decarbonization efforts. Prior to joining ACEEE, Anna worked at the Western Pennsylvania Conservancy, in the Pennsylvania Natural Heritage Program as a conservation planner and communication specialist.  Anna earned a PhD in geography and environmental systems from University of Maryland, Baltimore County, and a BA in liberal arts from St. John’s College.Electrifying News:  Biden-Harris Administration Announces $20 Billion in Grants to Mobilize Private Capital and Deliver Clean Energy and Climate Solutions to Communities Across America (U.S. EPA)Consumers may soon get access to a share of $8.8 billion in Inflation Reduction Act home energy rebates (CNBC) Biden-Harris Administration finalized the strongest-ever pollution standards for cars that position U.S. companies and workers to lead the clean vehicle future, protect public health, address the climate crisis, save drivers money (U.S. EPA)New Regulations for Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Commercial Trucks & Buses (U.S. EPA)Biden administration finalizes new rules for power plants in one of its most significant climate actions to-date (CNN)Biden-Harris Administration Announces $6 Billion to Transform America's Industrial Sector, Strengthen Domestic Manufacturing, and Slash Planet-Warming Emissions (U.S. DOE)Must-read resources:Enabling Industrial Demand Flexibility: Aligning Industrial Consumer and Grid Benefits (ACEEE 2024)Electrification with Clean Power Is Key for a Growing, Competitive Industrial Sector (ACEEE 2024)Meeting Growing Electricity Demand Without Gas (Energy Innovation 2024)

Did you know that industrial activity around the world is responsible for one-third of human-caused greenhouse gas emissions? In the U.S. alone, direct emissions from the industrial sector make up 23% of our total GHG emissions. The industrial sector is also essential for producing the tools and products we need for our daily lives – from food and beverage products, textiles and paper, steel and concrete, and the technologies necessary to tackle climate change, like wind turbines and batteries. Yet, despite its importance to our economy and its omnipresence in our lives, efforts to reduce industrial emissions are lagging compared with other sectors. This episode features a conversation with Jeffrey Rissman, the author of a new book, Zero-Carbon Industry: Transformative Technologies and Policies to Achieve Sustainable Prosperity.  We explore the wide world of industry and the technologies, policies, and market mechanisms necessary to reduce the industrial sector’s emissions for a climate safe future. Join us for the first in a three-part series on the topic.  Guest Bio:Jeffrey Rissman is the Senior Director of Industry at Energy Innovation, where he leads the company’s work on technologies and policies to eliminate greenhouse gas emissions from the industry sector. He is the author of Zero-Carbon Industry: Transformative Technologies and Policies to Achieve Sustainable Prosperity  (2024) and coauthor of Designing Climate Solutions: A Policy Guide for Low-Carbon Energy  (2018). In 2024, Jeffrey was appointed by Secretary of Energy Jennifer Granholm to serve on the Department of Energy’s Industrial Technology Innovation Advisory Committee. Jeff is also the creator of the Energy Policy Simulator, an open-source computer model that quantifies the effects of various energy and environmental policies; versions of the simulator have been developed for an ever-growing list of countries and regions, in partnership with in-country government agencies or NGOs, accounting for more than 50 percent of the world’s emissions. Previously, Jeff worked on policies supporting R&D for clean energy and efficiency technologies for the American Energy Innovation Council. He holds an M.S. in Environmental Sciences and Engineering and a Masters in City and Regional Planning, both from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He was a Research Fellow for the University of North Carolina Institute for the Environment, where he studied aircraft emissions for the Federal Aviation Administration. Jeff also holds a B.A. in International Relations with honors from Stanford University.Order the book and get a 20% discount with code CUP20: Zero-Carbon Industry: Transformative Technologies and Policies to Achieve Sustainable Prosperity To dig in deeper, check out these must-read resources: Designing Climate Solutions: A Policy Guide for Low-Carbon Energy  Energy Innovation’s Industry ProgramIndustrial Technology Innovation Advisory CommitteeEnergy Policy Simulator

Season 4 of Electrify This!  kicks off the new year to unpack a big question: “What’s really needed to cut U.S. emissions faster this decade?” Guests Ed Rightor and Sue Tierney are co-authors of a new report from the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine titled Accelerating Decarbonization in the United States: Technology, Policy, and Societal Dimensions, which evaluates how we can successfully implement current decarbonization policies and what else is  needed to reach U.S. emission targets in 2030. Tune in to learn more about the critical role that electrification will play in achieving these goals and what policymakers should consider in the transition to an equitable, climate safe future.  Guest Bios Ed Rightor is the Principal of Rightor Consulting. As an independent consultant, Ed supports his clients in the areas of industrial decarbonization, identification of unmet market needs, and sustainability.  Previously, he served as the Director of the Center for Clean Energy Innovation at the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation and the Director of the Industrial Program for the American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy (ACEEE).  Ed also held several leadership roles at Dow Chemical during his 31-year career. He earned a PhD in chemistry from Michigan State University and a BS in chemistry from Marietta College. Susan Tierney is a Senior Advisor at Analysis Group and an expert on energy and environmental economics, regulation, and policy, particularly in the electric and gas industries. She has consulted to businesses, federal and state governments, regional grid operators, tribes, environmental groups, foundations, and other organizations on energy markets, economic and environmental regulation and strategy, and energy projects.  She has testified before Congress, state and federal regulatory agencies, and federal and state courts.  Previously, she served as the Assistant Secretary for Policy at the U.S. Department of Energy, and the Secretary of Environmental Affairs in Massachusetts, a Commissioner at the MA Department of Public Utilities, Chairman of the Board of the Massachusetts Water Resources Authority, and Executive Director of the Energy Facilities Siting Council. She earned her Ph.D. and M.A. in regional planning at Cornell University. To dig in deeper, check out these must-read resources: Analysis GroupRightor Consulting National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine (Report) – Accelerating Decarbonization in the United States: Technology, Policy, and Societal Dimensions National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine Innovation Amplifiers: Getting More Bang for the Buck on GHG Reductions (Information Technology & Innovation Fund) ** We want to hear from you! Please take our brief survey and give us your ideas, thoughts, and suggestions for the podcast! Be a part of shaping this show.  **Contact us at [email protected].