Can You Trust Your AI Agent? with Ann Johnson
In this episode of Connected with Experian, Waseem Mirza speaks to Ann Johnson, Executive Vice President of Security Solutions at Mastercard, about how trust, identity and security will decide whether agentic AI reaches its full potential in commerce.As AI agents start to search, decide and spend on people's behalf, the conversation looks at what has to be in place for consumers, businesses and banks to say "yes" with confidence. Ann explains why identity is still the control point for digital commerce, why we now have to verify agents as well as people, and why liability for agentic transactions starts with getting identity and intent right at the very front end.The discussion also covers how AI is changing the fight against fraud. Threat actors have more powerful tools than ever, so Ann makes the case for stopping fraud before it happens. That means combining threat intelligence, transaction data and identity signals from across the ecosystem. She also explains why no single company, industry or government can build trust alone.In this episode:How AI is creating new opportunities and new risks across cybersecurity, fraud and identityHow seriously leaders should take recent warnings about frontier AI and cyber riskWhy only a small share of transactions are agentic today, and what that says about consumer confidenceThe difference between agentic search and agentic transactionsHow liability should work when an AI agent makes a purchase on someone's behalfWhy verifiable intent means proving two identities: the person and their agentWhy early agentic transactions are likely to be card-basedHow a generational shift is changing expectations of payments and frictionless experiencesHow AI is being used defensively to detect fraud earlier and automate repetitive analyst tasksWhy threat intelligence gives an early warning signal for stolen cards and identitiesWhy security has to be built in from the first line of codeThe role of leadership and culture in earning trustHow partnerships help tackle synthetic identities, impersonation and scamsMoving from "know your customer" to know your agent, know your merchant and know your fraudsterPractical steps businesses can take now to prepare for threats that don't exist yetMemorable takeaway As Ann puts it, the opportunity is enormous, but "the ceiling isn't technology, the ceiling is trust." For agentic commerce to scale, every identity in a transaction has to be continuously verified: the person, their agent, their card and the merchant.About the guest Ann Johnson is Executive Vice President of Security Solutions at Mastercard. She leads customer and partner strategy across security, fraud, identity, disputes and the post-purchase experience.Before joining Mastercard, Ann spent more than a decade at Microsoft, most recently as Deputy Chief Information Security Officer. She has also held senior leadership roles at Qualys and RSA Security. She describes herself as a pragmatist and an optimist, and she focuses on helping organisations use AI and security to make new things possible, not just to block risk.About the podcast Connected with Experian explores how data, technology and intelligent decisioning are reshaping modern business. Through conversations with leaders across financial services, healthcare and beyond, the series looks at how organisations are building trust, improving outcomes and using innovation responsibly.