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What if the key to understanding the Bible's supernatural storyline has been hiding in plain sight—on every mountain peak from Genesis to Revelation?Dr. Joel Muddamalle returns to break down the cosmic mountain motif: an ancient Near Eastern concept that shaped how the Hebrews understood everything from Eden to the temple to the final battle. Mountains weren't hiking destinations—they were portals. Meeting places. Contested territory between Yahweh and the rebellious sons of God.In this episode, we explore why Eden was almost certainly elevated, how the Tower of Babel was humanity's attempt to build their own sacred peak, what made Mount Hermon the headquarters of evil, and why God chose Sinai to reveal His personal name to Moses. Joel walks us through the cosmic geography that connects Sheol, the abyss, and the heavenly throne room—all anchored to the mountain image.Plus: we officially announce Stranger Theology, our new theological project. New Substack. New podcast series. Bible-in-a-Year journal that doesn't flinch at Leviticus or Nephilim. You're gonna want in on this. Check out www.strangertheology.com This Episode is Sponsored By: https://mintmobile.com/blurry — Get your premium wireless plan for $15 a month when you try Mint Mobile for the first time! https://quince.com/blurry — Get free shipping on your order & 365-day returns when you shop now! https://livemomentous.com — Get up to 35% off your first order with promo code BLURRY at checkout! - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

She's seen demons lined up like an army. Angels 60 feet tall. Jesus himself, standing in a backyard with a toddler. Britt Holland is a seer, and she's been seeing things since childhood—long before she had any framework to understand it. In this episode, Britt shares her full story: prophetic dreams that came true, a vision of the crucifixion at 17, years of seeing in the spirit realm, and the dangerous season when meditation practices opened doors she didn't mean to open. She encountered false Jesuses with fangs. Witches astrally projecting into her room. A mimicking spirit impersonating her husband.Britt's story is wild, but it's also grounded. She talks about the angels who appeared as humans in Russia and Germany and vanished without a trace. She explains the difference between the prophetic and the psychic, and how she tests what she sees against scripture. She's honest about where she went wrong, what she learned, and why she now believes that just because you can see into the spirit realm doesn't mean you should go exploring. For anyone who's ever had a supernatural experience and wondered if they were crazy—or if it was real—this episode is for you.Join us for a wild journey beyond the veil in this intriguing and wide-ranging interview on the unseen realm.  Want to listen to this and the entire back catalog of member-exclusive episodes? Check out all the perks at https://blurrycreatures.com/pages/members Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Billy Hallowell noticed something that should bother Christians: every October, Hollywood releases films about demons, possessions, and the supernatural—and audiences pack theaters. Meanwhile, many churches won't touch these topics with a ten-foot pole. The CBN journalist, TV host, and documentary filmmaker joins Blurry Creatures to explore this disconnect and share what he discovered while making "Investigating the Supernatural: Miracles." Billy walks through verified cases of miraculous healings, including a man who was dead for 40 minutes—pronounced dead, shocked 12 times, being prepped for the morgue—before a praying doctor saw him come back to life with a perfect heartbeat. These aren't secondhand stories; Billy investigated them with the rigor of a journalist, seeking medical records, eyewitness accounts, and expert analysis. He issues an open challenge to skeptics and cessationists alike: watch the documentary and then explain what happened, because he couldn't find any naturalistic explanation.The conversation goes deeper into why Billy believes the church's silence on the supernatural is a massive failure. He argues that secular materialism has seeped into Christian thinking, leaving believers with a "truncated view" of spiritual reality that leaves them unable to understand the world around them—from geopolitics to personal struggles. Billy shares his conviction that UFO and alien phenomena are demonic in origin, meant to redirect attention away from God, and he sees the current mainstream interest in these topics as a door Christians should be walking through. The episode also addresses the dangerous theology that blames sick people for lacking faith, what near-death experiencers consistently report about God's love, and why humility—not dramatic encounters—is the real catalyst Billy has observed in countless conversion stories. Plus, in true Blurry Creatures fashion, we explore whether Bigfoot could be demonic, a "rental car" for spiritual entities, or something else entirely. This episode is sponsored by:https://livemomentous.com — Get up to 35% off your first order with promo code BLURRY at checkout!https://preborn.com/blurry — Dial #250 and say the keyword BABY or visit the link. Just $28 can help save a life!https://brooklynbedding.com — Get 30% off site wide when you use code BLURRY at checkout! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

He wasn't asleep. He wasn't dreaming. A swirling black void simply opened in his living room, revealing shadow figures moving through ancient stone corridors on the other side. Rye sat there watching—peering into the abyss like a security camera fixed on another realm.For him, that portal was the culmination of a lifetime of supernatural encounters that started before his first breath, when a priest read him his last rites. Generational witchcraft on one side, miraculous healings on the other—Rye grew up caught between two spiritual inheritances. Shadow people with glowing red eyes, objects moving on their own, automatic writing, paranormal investigation, and eventually a return to faith. His story is a vivid reminder that we were made to live in the overlap—and that the veil is thinner than most of us realize. He shares a testimony that's part warning, part Christ-centered hope, and fully blurry. This is a members-only exclusive Blurry Creatures episode. For information on how to become a member, check out: https://blurrycreatures.com/pages/members Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dr. Manny Arango, New Testament scholar and author of "Crushing Chaos," joins us to explore the biblical monsters we've sanitized out of our modern understanding of Scripture. From the dragon in Eden to Leviathan in Job, Manny argues we've fallen victim to the "lullaby effect"—becoming so familiar with these stories that we've missed their jarring, supernatural elements.In this fascinating conversation, Manny reveals why the talking serpent in Eden was likely a dragon, why God describes Leviathan to Job in excruciating detail, and how Jesus' ministry was fundamentally about conquering chaos monsters. But the real twist? Manny argues that humans can become the monsters—that the Bible's greatest concern isn't external beasts, but our own potential to devolve into chaos.From ancient Near Eastern mythology to modern anxiety, this episode explores how biblical monster stories are actually roadmaps for retaining our humanity in a world designed to make us beastly. Manny's insights on chaos versus sin, the nature of humanity, and Jesus as the ultimate dragon-slayer offer a fresh perspective on spiritual warfare and what it means to stay human in a chaotic world. This episode is sponsored by: https://preborn.com/blurry — Dial #250 and say the keyword BABY or visit the link. Just $28 can help save a life! https://rocketmoney.com/blurry — Reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. The average person saves up to $740 a year when using all the app’s premium features! https://uncommongoods.com/blurry — Shop early to get 15% off your next gift! - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It started with a witch in Providence. In the 1970s, Joe Cetrone's parents befriended a practicing Satanist — a woman who conducted séances, summoned spirits, and claimed to enter people's dreams. Joe was just four years old. By seven, he'd had his first encounter with something inhuman standing beside his bed on Christmas morning. Decades later, Joe became a paranormal investigator, appearing on Travel Channel's Haunted Case Files and Paranormal Survivor. He investigated the infamous Sallie House. He captured an EVP that made pastors uncomfortable — a demonic growl responding to the name of Jesus Christ.But when his own son was physically attacked by an entity, Joe faced a reckoning. The fame he'd been chasing came at a price he wasn't willing to pay.In this episode, Joe tells the whole story — the parts the TV shows left out, the evidence that convinced him the spiritual realm is real, and why he walked away from ghost hunting to write his memoir, Chasing Shadows. Joe also discusses the UFO-Bigfoot connection, why analog equipment captures things digital can't, what demons look like on camera, and his conversations with Chuck Missler, LA Marzulli, and Russ Dizdar. This is one of the most compelling testimonies we've ever featured. This is a members-only Blurry Creatures exclusive. To become a member, check out https://blurrycreatures.com/pages/members Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Most near-death experiencers see the light. Steve Kang went the other direction."There were demons everywhere. Three-to-four stories tall with capes and weapons. I knew they were in charge of this place called hell."Raised Buddhist, dedicated to becoming a monk, praying eight hours daily—Steve had his spiritual life figured out. Then a laced drug at a party kept him awake for ten straight days. Buddhist artifacts started making poltergeist noises. A voice claiming to be his god offered a deal: kill yourself for a better afterlife. So he did.During surgery after his suicide attempt, Steve landed in a place Buddhists don't believe exists: hell. Crowded. Dark with no sun. A purplish-red wasteland with massive demons and torture cages. And the certain knowledge: "I'm going to be here forever." But that wasn't the end of the story. As he was fighting for his life and experiencing the realities of hell, eight Christian ministers showed up to pray for a Buddhist kid they'd never met. In those moments, Steve shares how Jesus appeared to him in hell, offering love and rescue when he least deserved it. In this unbelievable story of salvation and redemption, Steve gets a second chance at life. His encounter became the turning point that not only saved him from death but also transformed his entire understanding of God, salvation, and purpose. Today, Steve shares his story as a testament to the reality of the afterlife and the radical love that pursues us even in our darkest moments. This episode is sponsored by: https://zocdoc.com/blurry — Find and instantly book top-rated doctors today! - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What lurks beneath our oceans? Can a soul truly be sold? And why do UFOs seem to defy physics itself? In the fourth installment of their Members-Exclusive AMA, Nate and Luke navigate through 60+ submitted questions, cherry-picking the most intriguing mysteries and burning questions about the Blurryverse.They examine testimonies of craft disappearing into mountains and oceans, including military tracking of objects that seamlessly transition from air to water without slowing down. The discussion ventures into theories about underwater bases, the unexplored depths of the ocean, and those mysterious geometric structures visible on Google Earth's ocean floor. The hosts discuss the theological weight of Mount Hermon - the supernatural significance of the location where fallen angels allegedly made their pact - and question whether ancient giants really walked among us, examining claims that the Smithsonian systematically collected and hid oversized human skeletons whenever they were discovered.The conversation weaves through the Book of Enoch's controversial status, why it didn't make the biblical canon despite being quoted in Jude, and what it might reveal about the true nature of our reality. They reflect on how guests like Tina Griffin, Ben Tapper, and Blake Cook all had UFO encounters that weren't even the main focus of their episodes, suggesting these phenomena are far more common than we realize. Between the heavy topics, discover what the shows the hosts are binging, books they are reading, and why they've already been in full Christmas mode with jazz (Nate) playing in the background. This members-only episode is a perk of being a Blurry Creatures member. Not a member yet? Check out all the Blurry things we are cooking up at https://blurrycreatures.com/pages/members Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"You're being manipulated, and you don't even know it." Jesse Carey, writer and producer of the new audio docuseries PSYOP hosted by Shawn Ryan, blows the whistle on the psychological operations shaping modern culture. The series examines how psyops function at scale, not just in government black ops but in everyday news, social media, and entertainment. These manipulations exploit how we process information: we're tribal, emotional, confirmation-bias-prone creatures who prefer narratives reinforcing our existing beliefs. Sophisticated operators craft messages that trigger specific responses, divide populations, and make people feel independent while following scripted patterns. From framed news stories to rage-inducing algorithms to normalizing entertainment, psyops constantly shape what we believe is true and acceptable.Jesse breaks down how psyops work and why Christians are particularly vulnerable despite being commanded to test everything and renew our minds. We discuss specific tactics, including how intelligence agencies infiltrated the UFO community to create a false UFO religion, the development of new directed energy weapons with mind control-like abilities, how stories trigger emotions rather than inform, why certain narratives dominate while contradicting evidence disappears, and how "doing your own research" can lead deeper into controlled narratives. Drawing from the PSYOP series research, Jesse emphasizes that recognizing manipulation isn't about paranoia but about developing the discernment Scripture commands. Christians should be the hardest to manipulate, yet we're often the easiest targets because we mistake cultural programming for biblical conviction. This episode pulls back the curtain on the psychological operations, propaganda, and methodology used to control and divide the masses and will help you to recognize manipulation and think critically about what you're told to believe. This episode is sponsored by: https://livemomentous.com — Get up to 35% off your first order with promo code BLURRY at checkout! https://homechef.com/blurry — Get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box & free dessert for life! https://quince.com/blurry — Get free shipping on your order & 365-day returns when you shop now! - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Artist Shane Wiggs shares his extraordinary journey through the paranormal and back to faith in this compelling Blurry Creatures members episode. From a childhood marked by supernatural encounters, including Ouija boards, a UFO sighting, and a haunting 3 AM encounter with an amber orb that followed his vehicle through trees, to psychedelic experiences and spiritual warfare, Shane's story touches on a multitude of aspects of the unseen realm.  The conversation touches on everything from the prodigal son parable to the necessity of grace for those whose paths to faith wind through unconventional territory. Shane challenges the modern church's "truncated view of the supernatural," advocating for a more complete understanding that acknowledges the reality of entities, Mount Hermon's significance, and the ongoing spiritual warfare that manifests in paranormal encounters. His final triumph—finding a church home after 40 years of searching—offers hope to fellow travelers in the blurry spaces who've been told their experiences don't fit within acceptable Christian discourse. Shane's story reinforces that the journey back to God is often more complicated and grace-filled than religious communities typically acknowledge. Not a member yet? Check out the Blurry Creatures membership here: https://blurrycreatures.com/pages/members Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices