Black Soldier Fly Leaders podcast

Black Soldier Fly Leaders

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Black Soldier Fly Leaders — No BS, Just BSF. Hosted by David Tavernor, this podcast cuts through the noise to reveal how the global BSF industry really works. Hear from the founders, investors, scientists and policymakers driving change. Each episode exposes the realities behind the headlines — from waste conversion to feed innovation — giving a clear view of where the insect economy is heading.

15 Episodes

Is BSF Farming Finally Cost Competitive? - Spring Yang
5/5/2026
1:27:06
In this episode, Spring Yang shares his extensive experience in the black soldier fly industry, covering technological innovations, cost reductions, feedstock opportunities, and future industry prospects. Discover how China has rapidly expanded its black soldier fly production and the key challenges and solutions shaping the industry.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Black Soldier Fly Industry05:22 Spring Yang's Journey into Black Soldier Flies07:52 Consulting and Innovations in BSF Technology10:20 Challenges in Large Scale Production12:39 The Growth of BSF Facilities in China15:20 Municipal Waste Processing and BSF18:08 Economic Viability of BSF Products20:43 Cost Analysis of BSF Production23:16 Labor and Automation in BSF Farming26:02 Lessons Learned and Future Directions30:44 Building Infrastructure for Waste Management32:45 Biogas Technology and Its Impact33:42 The Rise of Black Soldier Fly Industry36:26 Waste Management and Economic Incentives39:55 Challenges in Household Waste Segregation42:12 Production and Market Dynamics of BSF47:37 Nutritional Value and Market Opportunities for BSF52:30 Spring Yang's Business Ventures and Future Plans54:38 Navigating the BSF Marketplace57:45 Building Facilities for Waste Processing58:39 Cost Challenges in the BSF Industry01:02:44 The Role of Feedstock in BSF Production01:05:45 Exploring Alternative Feedstocks01:16:25 The Future of the BSF Industry
Teach The World: Do They Know Black Soldier Flies? - Morgane Breuil & Arthur de Dinechin
4/21/2026
42:17
Join Morgane Breuil and Arthur de Dinechin from Living Soils as they share their journey into the black soldier fly industry, their innovative approaches to sustainable agriculture, and their ambitious global boat expedition to promote soil regeneration and insect-based farming.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Black Soldier Fly Podcast00:47 Journey into the Black Soldier Fly Industry04:02 Living Soils: An NGO for Sustainable Agriculture06:44 Understanding Farmers' Risk Appetite11:40 Benefits of Black Soldier Fly for Poultry18:02 Utilizing Frass in Agriculture22:48 Innovative Agricultural Solutions29:36 Challenges in Sustainable Farming32:30 Future Ambitions and Global Outreach39:17 The Expedition Journey and Community Engagement
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How to get BSF products into mainstream agriculture - Heidi Hall
4/7/2026
43:02
In this episode, Heidi Hall shares her extensive experience in insect-based feed production, focusing on black soldier fly, regulatory challenges, and the future of sustainable protein in agriculture.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Heidi Hall and her background01:13 Heidi's journey into black soldier fly industry02:09 Regulatory landscape and challenges in insect farming03:35 History and evolution of insect-based feed projects06:09 Legislation's impact on insect industry growth07:56 Motivations for regulatory change and industry barriers09:32 Insect production's role in circular economy and waste management12:13 Environmental and political drivers for insect farming14:38 Cost-effectiveness and market viability of insect products17:26 Synergies between insect farming and anaerobic digestion20:14 Mycotoxins, insects, and waste reduction strategies22:39 Quality assurance and standards in insect production26:19 Legislation, regulation, and industry standards31:35 Global perspectives and market development for insect protein36:44 Consumer perception and marketing of insect-based foods38:18 Insects in animal diets and their nutritional value39:10 Conclusion: Challenges and opportunities in insect agriculture
Can you profitably farm BSF at a small scale? - Dave Littere
3/24/2026
47:42
In this episode, Dave Littere shares his journey into black soldier fly farming, focusing on small-scale urban composting solutions, challenges faced, and future plans for scaling. Discover practical insights into organic waste management, insect farming, and circular economy innovations.Chapters:00:00 Introduction to Black Soldier Fly Farming02:59 Transitioning from Composting to Black Soldier Flies05:50 The Full Circle Story of Composting08:57 Mobile Composting Commands and Their Functionality12:03 Partnerships and Community Engagement15:01 Products and Outputs from Black Soldier Fly Farming18:01 Challenges in Selling Larvae and Education24:00 Navigating Insect Farming Challenges32:04 Regulatory Hurdles in Food Waste Management35:04 Building Industry Connections and Learning37:54 Future Growth and Scaling Strategies49:08 Lessons Learned and Advice for Newcomers
Advancing the North American BSF Industry with Aaron Hobbs
3/10/2026
52:37
In this episode, Aaron Hobbs, Executive Director of NACIA, shares his journey into the North American insect industry, highlights key strategies for industry growth, and discusses the evolving regulatory landscape. Whether you're a producer, scientist, or industry advocate, gain valuable insights to navigate and contribute to this innovative sector. Key Topics Covered:The importance of relationship-building with policymakers and local officials for effective advocacyStrategies for industry collaboration and collective regulatory effortsThe evolution of regulatory definitions for insect-based ingredients in North AmericaOpportunities in product commercialization, frass markets, and substrate inputsThe role of industry associations like NACIA in supporting growth and innovationInsights into market trends: sales channels for larvae, frass, and related productsApproaches to reducing costs through feedstock sourcing and industry maturationFuture models: potential cooperative frameworks and franchise opportunitiesThe use of AI and research tools to accelerate safety validation and market claimsLessons from European industry challenges and how North America is taking a different routeTimestamps:00:00 - Introduction: Aaron Hobbs' journey into the North American insect industry02:15 - What is NACIA? An overview of the industry trade association04:10 - Regulatory milestones: Definitions and safety standards for insect ingredients06:41 - The power of industry collaboration and collective regulatory strategy10:29 - Building relationships with local policymakers to expand industry influence14:00 - Education and engagement: Teaching regulators about insect safety and processing17:05 - Navigating North American regulations: similarities and differences with Europe20:45 - Expanding use patterns for insect products: frass, meal, oils, and substrates24:12 - Feedstock considerations: pre- and post-consumer waste, safety concerns27:51 - The strategic choice to commercialize products first before substrates30:46 - Market evolution: sales channels, industry growth, and future opportunities36:39 - Industry price points, scaling challenges, and cooperative models42:17 - Industry maturation: Boring growth, collaboration, and steady progress46:28 - The Frass Institute: Supporting research, education, and market claims49:05 - AI tools for research synthesis and regulatory claims50:29 - Market segments in North America: poultry, pets, aquaculture, and beyond55:06 - How to engage with industry associations: benefits for producers of all sizes54:40 - Success pillars: Building relationships with regulators and industry members57:02 - Closing remarks and contact information
Getting Technical with Black Soldier Fly Expert, Sofia Katzin
2/24/2026
54:24
In this episode of the Black Soldier Fly Leaders podcast, host David Tavernor speaks with Sofia Katzin, an expert in the Black Soldier Fly industry. They discuss Sofia's journey into the industry, the importance of climate and diet in breeding, strategies for attracting flies for egg-laying, and the nutritional needs of larvae. The conversation also covers the current state of the Black Soldier Fly industry in Australia, including regulatory challenges and opportunities for growth.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Black Soldier Fly Industry05:53 Sophia's Journey into Black Soldier Flies13:29 Breeding Setup and Best Practices21:22 Attractants and Egg Laying Strategies25:10 Nutrition for Rearing Black Soldier Fly Larvae31:14 Nutritional Composition of Black Soldier Fly Larvae34:15 Micronutrients and Their Importance37:35 Controlling Fermentation in Larvae Feed42:15 Managing Variability in Feedstock Inputs47:27 The Australian Black Soldier Fly Industry55:18 Regulatory Landscape and Opportunities in Australia
Case Study: Inside The UK Organic Waste Industry - Chris Smits
2/10/2026
50:50
This conversation explores the dynamics of the waste management industry in the UK, focusing on the role of Elite Recycling Solutions and the potential of black soldier fly technology in processing food waste. Chris Smits discusses the challenges and opportunities in waste segregation, regulatory changes, and the comparative analysis of waste processing methods such as anaerobic digestion and incineration. The discussion highlights the importance of innovation and collaboration in driving sustainability and reducing waste in the food supply chain.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Waste Management and Black Soldier Fly03:03 Elite Recycling Solutions: Company Overview and Clientele05:47 Driving Value in Food Waste Management09:08 Regulatory Challenges and Opportunities in Waste Processing11:52 Cost Dynamics in Waste Disposal15:07 Anaerobic Digestion vs. Incineration: A Comparative Analysis17:58 Simpler Recycling Regulations and Their Impact21:00 The Future of Food Waste Segregation23:49 Capacity Issues in Anaerobic Digestion27:07 Black Soldier Fly: A Viable Alternative?30:03 The Role of Black Soldier Fly in Waste Management32:57 Market Dynamics and Future Predictions36:00 Conclusion and Future Directions
Engineering The Best BSF System Designs - Bob Holtermans
1/27/2026
48:25
In this episode of the Black Soldier Fly Leaders podcast, David Tavernor interviews Bob Holtermans, also known as the Flying Dutchman, who shares his journey from mushroom farming to the innovative world of insect farming. Bob discusses the challenges and complexities of the insect farming industry, the importance of operational efficiency, and the need for flexibility in feeding and production processes. He emphasizes the significance of climate control, moisture management, and the necessity for successful examples within the industry. Bob also provides insights into cost management and investment considerations, offering valuable advice for newcomers to the field.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Bob Holtermans and His Journey03:11 Transition from Mushroom Farming to Insect Farming05:48 Innovative Farming Systems and Technology08:25 Challenges in the Insect Farming Industry10:54 Flexibility in Feeding and Production13:39 Climate Control and Airflow Management16:24 Challenging Industry Norms and Standards24:49 Cost Efficiency in Insect Farming27:40 Building Structures for Insect Farming28:27 Innovative Systems for Insect Handling31:57 Operational Costs and Efficiency35:38 Modularity in Farming Equipment37:41 Industry Overview and Market Dynamics42:12 Challenges and Opportunities in the Insect Industry44:26 Advice for New Entrants in the Industry
A Deep Dive into China's BSF Industry - Ruilong Zheng
1/13/2026
59:48
In this episode of the Black Soldier Fly Leaders podcast, David Tavernor interviews Ruilong Zheng, who shares his journey into the black soldier fly (BSF) industry, his experiences at Protix, and insights into the nutritional challenges and innovations in BSF farming. Ruilong discusses the rapid growth of the BSF industry in China, regulatory challenges, and the importance of collaboration and knowledge sharing for future success. He emphasizes the need for sustainable practices and aims to showcase successful BSF systems outside of China.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Black Soldier Fly Industry04:54 Ruilong Zheng's Journey into the Industry09:48 Experiences at Protix: Insights and Challenges20:00 Nutritional Aspects of Black Soldier Fly Farming30:12 The Importance of Industry Collaboration and Conferences40:48 Challenges in the Chinese Metal Industry43:42 Competition and Circular Economy in Insect Protein46:28 Sustainability and Local Production50:24 Government Support and Waste Management in China53:28 Key Players in the Chinese BSF Industry01:00:46 Future Directions and Opportunities in Insect Farming
Revolutionise your breeding input - Dr Yuval Gilad, CEO of FreezeM
11/18/2025
48:51
In this episode,David Tavernor interviews Dr. Yuval Gilad, CEO of FreezeM, a company revolutionizing black soldier fly (BSF) farming technology. They discuss the evolution of BSF technology, the importance of collaboration in the industry, and the challenges of breeding and scaling production. Yuval shares insights on the future of BSF supply chains, the role of genetics in improving performance, and the financial strategies necessary for success in this growing field. The conversation also touches on regulatory challenges and the potential for BSF in global markets. You can contact Yuval by emailing [email protected]:00 Introduction to Black Soldier Fly Farming02:41 TheEvolution of the BSF Industry05:29 Decentralization in Insect Supply Chains09:33 FreezeM's Innovative Technology17:37 Specialization and Collaboration in the Industry21:14 Cost Dynamics in BSF Production23:58 Genetics and Future of Black Soldier Fly27:56 Genetic Traits and Insect Development32:12 Financing Innovations in Insect Farming35:04 Navigating the Investment Landscape38:03 Promising Markets for Black Soldier Flies44:15 Regulatory Changes for Sustainable Practices48:56 Collaboration and Industry Growth KeywordsBlack Soldier Fly, BSF farming, insect protein, sustainable agriculture, FreezeM, breeding technology, supply chain, genetics, funding, regulation

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