Neil Woods: I Weaponised Empathy So Criminals Would Trust Me
Content note: this episode includes discussion of drug addiction, childhood sexual abuse and suicidal thoughts. Support is available:UK: Samaritans 116 123 (free, 24/7), NAPAC 0808 801 0331, FRANK 0300 123 6600US: call or text 988, SAMHSA 1-800-662-4357, RAINN 1-800-656-4673Elsewhere: https://findahelpline.com/Correction (41:00): Canada legalised cannabis in October 2018, not 2015, and Health Canada's survey shows past-year use rose from 22% (2018) to 26% (2024).Neil Woods spent thirteen years undercover for the police, buying heroin and crack to get inside drug gangs in Nottingham, Leicester and elsewhere. His most effective technique was empathy. He joins Aleksandra King, host and producer, on The BEYOND Podcast to describe what it costs to make people trust someone who does not exist.Neil Woods, author of Good Cop, Bad War, explains why he sees problematic heroin use as self medication for childhood trauma, how children came to make more than half of heroin and crack deals, and why he argues the war on drugs makes the harms it targets worse, drawing on Switzerland, the Netherlands, Canada and Sweden. The Neil Woods podcast episode does not spare him: complex PTSD, moral injury, and the man he manipulated who became suicidal because he believed he had found a friend.In this conversation: what the first knock on a dealer’s door is like; why empathy became his sharpest tool and what it took from him; the United Nations figure he cites, that 75 per cent of people who use heroin never develop a problem with it; how children were drawn into county lines; the operation that nearly exposed him.Watch the full episode: Neil Woods on The BEYOND Podcast, on YouTubeGuest: Neil Woods, Good Cop, Bad WarHost: Aleksandra King, host and producer of The BEYOND Podcast and co-author, with Elliott King, of Marketing Wins.The BEYOND Podcast is fearless long-form conversation about power, resilience and the truth behind success, hosted and produced by Aleksandra King. New episodes every two weeks at thebeyondpodcast.com.