When We Are Healed

After years of devoting myself to healing and spiritual practices, I recently found myself in a heavy episode of depression. I was questioning everything I’ve ever done, entertaining thoughts like, “What’s the point?” or “I’m absolutely hopeless.”A part of me knew that this was just an energy moving through, and that these thoughts don’t actually mean anything about me—but most of the time, I was caught up in them anyway.That’s when a dear friend gifted me a copy of Lisa Natoli’s latest book, The Joy of Being—which couldn’t have come at a more perfect time for me. Lisa has a gift for keeping spiritual teachings simple and accessible, and I find her personal stories so relatable.I’ve been feeling so held and supported by Lisa’s words and presence as I move through this challenging experience, and I’m so grateful to welcome her back to our show!Lisa Natoli is a spiritual teacher of Advaita Vedanta and A Course In Miracles, and the author of The Joy of Being: A Guide to Healing and Awakening. In 2018, she began a journey of inner investigation and self-inquiry that led to the discovery of her true nature as a living reality. She teaches there is a way out of sickness and suffering into joy and peace.In this episode, I asked Lisa about how this book came to be and opened up to her about my recent struggles. She guided me in real time through a practice of simply being aware of my experience without trying to fix it. We talked about the #1 issue that spiritual students bump up against, and why it’s not a problem.Lisa reminds us that when we come to the end of the road after trying everything to heal, we haven’t failed—it’s actually the very invitation for awakening to who we really are… not the one who’s suffering, but the vast, pure awareness that envelops it all.✨📕 Click here to grab your copy of Lisa’s book, The Joy of BeingConnect with Lisa* Website | lisanatoli.com* Substack | Journal Notes from Lisa NatoliConnect with Rieko & When We Are Healed* Instagram | @whenwearehealed* YouTube | @whenwearehealed* Website | rieko.coCredits* Original Music: Jeff Shreve* Editor: Sonic Highlark This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whenwearehealed.com

What if there’s a power within you that can heal not only your body and life, but also the whole world?Today’s guest is a true healer who is dedicated to assisting people in accessing this power.Julie Verfurth has a 25 year background in naturopathic medicine and mind-body healing. She calls her work “sovereign self wayfinding,” or finding freedom from being in true alignment with one's Self. She assists people, especially women in their mid-life years, in accessing their higher selves for wisdom, healing, and direction in their lives. She believes that holding presence and reflecting your light back to you, as you work through your inner challenges and blocks and begin to reconnect with your infinite nature, is the way to equip you with the knowledge, courage, and trust to become your own best healer and guide.I’ve personally been working with Julie for a few months now, and it has been a profound experience! Oftentimes when we go see a doctor or practitioner, they rarely have the skill or bandwidth to really connect with you and look at not only the symptoms but the entirety of who you are—mind, body, and spirit. But with Julie, you are being held in a completely different frequency. All parts of you feel seen and heard. You remember that you’re already whole, not broken. And under her guidance, you can begin to listen to the symptoms with curiosity and tenderness.I keep telling Julie that she’s the doctor I wish everyone had, and I’m so excited to introduce her to you!You will learn:• Julie’s journey as a practitioner through naturopathic medicine, holistic counseling, and mind-body healing• What sovereignty means and why it’s the key to healing• Dr. Hew Len, the ancient Hawaiian healing practice of Ho’oponopono, and how one person can affect massive change around them• Beyond symptoms: Resilience, courage, and deeper transformation in real people• The new human era and the evolution of the collective consciousness… and more!Connect with JulieWebsite | https://laughinglight.comSubstack | https://awakewoman.substack.com/Connect with Rieko & When We Are HealedWebsite | https://www.rieko.co/Substack | https://whenwearehealed.com/Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/whenwearehealedMentionedDr. Kim D’EramoZero Limits: The Secret Hawaiian System for Wealth, Health, Peace, and More by Joe Vitale and Ihaleakala Hew Len**Affiliate link – Purchasing a copy of the book through this link on Bookshop.org is a way to support independent bookstores as well as this podcast.Credits* Original Music: Jeff Shreve* Editor: Sonic Highlark This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whenwearehealed.com

If you’ve been wondering why your manifestation practices aren’t working—you’re not alone! This is a vulnerable episode where I’m opening up an honest conversation about manifesting, where I’ve struggled and succeeded.Having had mixed results from a consistent manifestation practice this past year, I eventually had this humbling realization that  the most magical experiences and relationships I’ve had in my life, including with my husband—I didn’t manifest any of it, at least not intentionally!Do our thoughts actually create our reality, or is there something bigger at work? Either way, one thing that appears to be key to manifesting your desires, is the complete lack of attachment to the outcome.Connect with When We Are Healed* Work with Rieko | https://www.rieko.co/* Instagram | @whenwearehealed* YouTube | @whenwearehealedCredits* Original Music: Jeff Shreve* Editor: Sonic Highlark This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whenwearehealed.com

Your choices and actions shape your reality.Let your heart guide you to your highest timeline.These are supposed to be empowering thoughts, right? But for the longest time, they’ve had the opposite effect on me. The more I thought my choices shaped my life, the more I found myself fretting and stressing over even the smallest decisions (like “What should I eat for lunch?”)!I was so afraid of getting it wrong, that every choice point felt like a fork in the road: one path leading to heaven and the other to hell and total destruction. Consequently, I had a really hard time tuning into what I even wanted, let alone what my “inner guidance” was saying.In this episode, I’m sharing 3 ways that have helped me reframe decision making to release that paralyzing pressure and move into safety, clarity, and trust.What I’ve found is that as long as I put pressure on myself to get it “right,” I can never be free. It’s only in letting that go and giving myself full permission to get it “wrong” that I’m safe to choose what I’m feeling called to.You’ll learn…* How to calm the nervous system when in decision stress* Turning the decision over to a higher power* Letting decisions unfold naturally* The Truth about decision making that sets you free* How self-love allows you to make expansive choicesYou may also enjoy…* 🧘🏻‍♀️ Guided Meditation for Releasing FearConnect with Rieko & When We Are Healed* Website | rieko.co* Instagram | @whenwearehealed* YouTube | @whenwearehealedMentioned* Dr. Kim D’Eramo* Jennifer Hadley* Byron Katie* Makiko MizutaCredits* Original Music: Jeff Shreve* Editor: Sonic Highlark This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whenwearehealed.com

You’ve set a big intention for the new year—and now you’re finding yourself in intense fear, overwhelm, or old patterns of self-sabotage. Does this mean you’re failing? I’m here to tell you, absolutely not!In this episode, I’m sharing how to reframe your relationship to fear so that you can release it more easily and quickly. Instead of seeing fear as an adversary or sign of spiritual failure, you can welcome it as a sacred messenger, here to support your expansion.Once you learn to meet your own fear with love, you are unstoppable!You’ll learn:* Why fear can come up in all forms, especially in the new year* The power of reframing fear as a sacred messenger* The physiology of fear (false) vs. love (true)* Why it’s NOT necessary to eliminate fear or resistance* How to let go of fear with a simple somatic practiceFree Gift for You* 🧘🏻‍♀️ Guided Meditation for Releasing FearConnect with Rieko & When We Are Healed* Website | rieko.co* Instagram | @whenwearehealed* YouTube | @whenwearehealed* Substack | whenwearehealed.comCredits* Original Music: Jeff Shreve* Editor: Sonic Highlark This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whenwearehealed.com

What if the most painful experience of your life is actually preparing you for something far greater than you’ve ever imagined?Today’s guest is someone whose incredible journey reminds us that there is a divine purpose to everything, even in long periods of darkness and turmoil.Corey Marsh is an entrepreneur, spiritual teacher and guide, energy and sound healer, and spiritual aspirant. He resides in Sandy, Utah with his wife and four kids. A profound spiritual awakening experience occurred on August 8, 2019 that shifted everything and put Corey on the path of self realization. Guided by divine inspiration, Corey aims to serve others with what he’s found, and play his part in this great awakening. He has been a student and teacher of A Course in Miracles.In this episode, Corey shares the raw, honest story of his early struggles with depression, anxiety, substance abuse, and a divorce that brought him down to his knees—and the moment of full surrender that led to a powerful, spontaneous spiritual awakening and realization of oneness.We also talk about the ongoing support for ACIM students that we offer through our online community In Light of the Course (ILC). We highlight the men’s group within ILC as a safe space for vulnerability, dismantling “man‑up” conditioning, and embodying the divine masculine.You will learn:* Shifting your experience of any situation through the power of surrender and gratitude* Making spiritual practice a daily habit through the workbook lessons of A Course In Miracles* How to create lifelines for yourself as you move through tough times* Trusting the process and seeing your challenges as a gift* How vulnerability and emotional honesty can accelerate healing, especially for men… and more!***Are you an ACIM student looking to connect with like-minded individuals?In Light of the Course is an online community of lightworkers who are passionate about spiritual growth and living the teachings of ACIM. Each week we host live virtual gatherings including The Way of Mastery study groups, men’s group, community circle, and more!Join us now for a free 7-day trial →***Connect with Corey* Website | conscious-creations.com* Instagram | @coreyjmarsh* Online Community | In Light of the CourseConnect with Rieko & When We Are Healed* Website | rieko.co* Instagram | @whenwearehealed* YouTube | @whenwearehealedMentioned* A Course In Miracles* Eckhart Tolle – The Power of Now** Aaron Abke* Mark Anthony Lord* Meghan Cefalu* Jason Deardorff* The Way of Mastery*Affiliate link – Purchasing a copy of the book through this link on Bookshop.org is a way to support independent bookstores as well as this podcast.Credits* Original Music: Jeff Shreve* Editor: Sonic Highlark This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whenwearehealed.com

Nine years ago, I was in a really dark place – struggling for years with depression, eating disorders, and chronic health challenges. I had studied A Course In Miracles and other spiritual pathways for over a decade, but I was still feeling very unhappy, insecure, and disconnected from my purpose.Thankfully I found my teacher Jennifer Hadley, who ended up changing my life by showing me how to actually forgive myself and let love lead the way.Jennifer Hadley, founder of the Power of Love Ministry, is a spiritual writer, speaker, teacher, minister and counselor that has led over 60,000 spiritual students to discover the Power and Beauty within by supporting them to get out of their heads and into their loving hearts so they can be of greater service in the world. Jennifer offers daily inspiration and prayer, as well as workshops, classes and professional training programs for spiritual students and professionals. She is the host of A Course in Miracles podcast since 2011. The podcast focuses on a practical understanding and application of A Course in Miracles so the listeners can truly walk the talk and live the Love, leading a happy and prosperous life that brings benefit themselves, their family, friends, co-workers and all they come into contact with. Jennifer has a deep commitment to inspire more than 1 billion people to practice forgiveness in ways that result in miraculous, demonstrable results that inspires many more.And as a graduate of Jennifer’s signature programs Masterful Living* and Spiritual Counseling Certification (now called Quantum Counseling Certification), I’m a living proof that when you put her teachings into practice, it really does create miraculous results.Within just a few months of studying with Jennifer, I began to experience a fundamental, permanent shift in how I experience life. For the first time in my life, I didn’t hate myself anymore. All of my relationships began to heal in tangible ways, and life started to bring me opportunities and blessings that I couldn’t have imagined (more about this in episode 001).I’m forever grateful to Jennifer and her Power of Love Ministry community, and couldn’t be more excited and honored to welcome her to our show today! We talk about:* What true forgiveness is, and how it’s not what most people think* Jennifer’s personal healing journey from self-hatred to self-love* Relatable, real life examples of practicing true forgiveness* Why self-forgiveness is more challenging than forgiving others* Jennifer’s signature program Masterful Living and how it changed my life… and more!✨ Ready for your biggest spiritual breakthrough in 2026? Masterful Living* is Jennifer’s signature 1-year program that transformed my life more quickly than decades of therapy or studying spirituality. It has an incredible supportive community led by my fellow certified spiritual counselors, and I can’t recommend it highly enough!Learn more about Masterful Living here*Connect with Jennifer* Website | powerofloveministry.net* Instagram | @jenniferhelenhadley* Facebook | @jenniferhhadley* YouTube | @acourseinmiracles_acim * Masterful Living: Jennifer’s signature 1-year program starting January 2026! Connect with Rieko & When We Are Healed* Website | rieko.co* Instagram | @whenwearehealed* YouTube | @whenwearehealedMentioned* A Course In Miracles* 001. Introductions – My healing journey and our path ahead* Michael Beckwith* The Disappearance of the Universe by Gary Renard**Affiliate linkCredits* Original Music: Jeff Shreve* Editor: Sonic Highlark This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whenwearehealed.com

How do we find safety in our body, especially as empaths and sensitive types?Today’s guest is someone who has helped me see the body and the cycle of life and death in a completely new light. Marielle School is a light worker, a yoga instructor, a craniosacral therapist, a peer specialist in eating disorders, an artist, and a children’s book illustrator. She’s the author of It Matters Totally: Healing Food Addiction with A Course In Miracles which was a collaboration with Lisa Natoli. Through her work Marielle facilitates opportunities for healing, self care/self love practices and connection to our intuition.In this powerful episode Marielle shares about her personal healing journey, of recovering from a life-threatening eating disorder, immersing herself in yoga and ACIM, and guiding others as a healer and teacher. We also go into her mystical experiences of communicating with angels and beings in the afterworld, as well as holding space for her loved ones as they were passing over.This interview is jam-packed with profound insights about that can help shift our perspectives on the biggest challenges of life, particularly around eating disorders, addictions, sickness, and death. While there’s so much fear and judgment wrapped up around these subjects in our society, Marielle reminds us that everything is a part of our soul’s sacred journey, and that beyond the veil there are countless loving beings watching over us every step of the way.We talk about:* Yoga as a practice of creating a safe place for the soul to land and connecting with the Earth* Marielle’s journey with anorexia and the visitation from an angel that saved her life* The world you see is an out-picturing of an inward condition: How ACIM helped Marielle experience miracles with her raging alcoholic neighbor* Death as a sacred portal: Holding a frequency of love for the dying and communicating with souls in the afterworld* The surprising truth about eating disorders and Marielle’s unique approach to healing… and more!Connect with MarielleWebsite | marielleschoolyoga.comInstagram | @marielleschoolyogaFacebook | @marielle.schoolBook | It Matters Totally: Healing Food Addiction with A Course in MiraclesConnect with Rieko & When We Are Healed* Website | rieko.co* Instagram | @whenwearehealed* YouTube | @whenwearehealed* Substack | whenwearehealed.comMentioned* A Course In Miracles* Lisa Natoli* Sathya Sai Baba* Ulli Ulrike GruenbergCredits* Original Music: Jeff Shreve* Editor: Sonic Highlark This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whenwearehealed.com

When is the last time you sang your heart out?When did you first learn to suppress your voice, to hold yourself back?Today, I sat with my dear friend Neda Boin to talk about the power of using the voice for emotional release and healing.Neda Boin is an award winning singer songwriter and voice liberator who uses music to remember and extend the love we truly are. Neda travels all around the globe to give retreats, workshops and healing concerts. Her work is deeply rooted in the non-dual teachings of A Course in Miracles.In this episode, Neda shares about her personal journey from a rising pop star to discovering ACIM and giving over her voice to Spirit. We go into the importance of giving space to your emotions, and how you can honor and release them through your voice. We also talked about her new album “Winds of Change” and the incredible transformations she’s been witnessing in her voice liberation workshops and retreats all over the world.I first met Neda several years ago at her concert in NYC. And I was blown away not only by her gorgeous voice but also the way she was really embodying the teachings of ACIM. Both her music and voice liberation workshops have been truly helpful to me in experiencing the Truth through the heart instead of the head, and I couldn’t be more excited to share this interview with you!We talk about:* From pop singer to healer: How ACIM transformed Neda’s music career* Voice liberation: releasing grievances and emotional blockages through your voice* Learning to put Spirit in charge and trusting your inner voice* A 3-second vocal practice that has been shown to reduce stress more effectively than meditation* Neda’s latest album “Winds of Change,” upcoming retreats, and the transformative power of group healing… and more!Connect with Neda* Website | nedaboin.com* Instagram | @neda_boin* Youtube | @NedaBoin* Upcoming retreats in Japan, Florida, Netherlands and more* New album: “Winds of Change” on SpotifyConnect with Rieko & When We Are Healed* Website | rieko.co* Instagram | @whenwearehealed* YouTube | @whenwearehealedMentioned* A Course In Miracles* Corinne Zupko* David Hoffmeister* Neda’s blind audition in the TV show “The Voice”* “I don’t trust” – Neda’s 1:1 voice liberation session from the film “Take Me Home”* “Take Me Home” – Trailer for the documentary film by Frances XuCredits* “Let Love Lead” written and performed by Neda Boin, copyright ©2025 by Neda Boin, used with permission.* Original Music: Jeff Shreve* Editor: Sonic Highlark This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whenwearehealed.com

In a society where our sense of worth has long been tied to achievement and productivity, there’s now a collective longing to let go of the busy doing and simply be. The question is—how do we get there?Our guest today is here to guide us in making that shift with love and ease. Please welcome my dear friend Ulli Ulrike Gruenberg!Ulli Ulrike Gruenberg is an Artist, Psychologist, and women-centered Coach with expertise in trauma awareness, addiction recovery, and healing through art and nature. She teaches people how to invigorate their love for life and embody a deeper sense of being and emotional richness.In this episode, Ulli shares about her epic healing journey that took her through art school and psychology, through Europe and across the Atlantic, through parenthood and the “spiritual,” through developmental trauma recovery to the deeper knowing.She talks about how reawakening our senses and taking the time to commune with our surroundings can really help us develop a deeper sense of well-being and appreciation for the magic of life.This conversation really inspired me to take more pauses throughout my day and to really take in the beauty that’s all around me. If you, like me, have been feeling a longing for a deeper sense of connection to the world around you, this episode is for you!We talk about:* Ulli’s personal journey of growing up in Germany and finding healing in art, nature, trauma recovery, and the spiritual* How ACIM helped Ulli let go of guilt and embrace her innocence* Getting out of the “wellness trap” and finding space and stillness within* How aesthetic contemplation can help us let go of doing and step into being* Reawakening your senses and embracing the magic of being alive… and more!Connect with Ulli* Live online course starting October 21! See beyond: A six-week journey from doing towards being* Book a 1:1 session with Ulli* Website | gruenberginstitute.com* Instagram | @ulligruenberg* Facebook | @UlrikeGruenbergConnect with Rieko & When We Are Healed* Website | rieko.co* Instagram | @whenwearehealed* YouTube | @whenwearehealedMentioned* A Course In Miracles* 021. Psilocybin therapy: A sacred journey within – with Aphyna ZoeCredits* Original Music: Jeff Shreve* Editor: Sonic Highlark This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whenwearehealed.com