#293: Jokic & Cavs perfect starts | What's real so far?

We start with the increase in scoring (again), increase in fouls, and complete undercutting of defenses based on the way the game is being called right now. Then, are the Toronto Raptors, Phoenix Suns or Miami Heat actually good? Support at www.patreon.com/thinkingbasketball

OKC is a machine and Jokic can't miss! We discuss our first title contenders of the year, the Rockets offense, the strange Eastern Conference contenders, and the large middle class in a weird distribution of teams so far. Plus, addressing the Derrick White efficiency hate! Support atwww.patreon.com/thinkingbasketball

We discuss the Rockets unique, league-leading offense this year, Doc Rivers floor-raising coaching around Giannis and the Bucks, and the trend toward optimizing shooters and ball-handlers who aren't stars. Plus Spoelstra's Heat and the challenge of ceiling-raising as a coach. Support atwww.patreon.com/thinkingbasketball

We discuss the Lakers resilience and Austin Reave’s place among the 2021 draft class, Cade Cunningham’s passing and Jrue Holiday’s point guard resurgence in Portland. Support at ⁠www.patreon.com/thinkingbasketball

We discuss the incredible start from Victor Wembanyama, and where he fits into the NBA hierarchy right now. Plus the teams and players that jumped out to us in week 1, including the Warriors, Blazers, 76ers, Magic and Pelicans. Support at www.patreon.com/thinkingbasketball

We preview the 2025-26 NBA season. We discuss Victor Wembanyama and the Spurs, the enormous Denver Nugget off season, teams that could win the west, the Clippers/Warriors age conundrum, Franz Wagner's lack of shooting, the Rockets and Knicks new offenses and more. Support at www.patreon.com/thinkingbasketball

What were the big themes and takeaways we had from this series? What specifically players changed in our minds and why? We reflect on the series, rankings in general, p layer synergies and more before discussing our best offensive players and overall players from the series. Support at www.patreon.com/thinkingbasketballBubble : Jimmy Butler, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Paul George'03 Jason Kidd [21-32]'17 Russell Westbrook [20-32]'25 Jayson Tatum [20-28]'11 Dwight Howard [17-28]'16 Draymond Green [18-26]'05 Manu Ginobili [17-24]'21 Joel Embiid [11-23]'19 James Harden [13-25]'24 Luka Doncic [12-24]'20 Anthony Davis [12-23]'03 Tracy McGrady [10-24]'25 Shai Gilgeous-Alexander [7-20]'09 Dirk Nowitzki [7-19]'05 Steve Nash [8-19]'14 Chris Paul [6-17]'17 Kawhi Leonard [7-16]'16 Kevin Durant [7-15]'22 Giannis Antetokounmpo [6-15]'08 Kobe Bryant [6-15]'09 Dwyane Wade [4-11]'03 Tim Duncan [2-10]'25 Nikola Jokic [2-9]'04 Kevin Garnett [2-9]'17 Steph Curry [1-8]'01 Shaquille O'Neal [1-6]'13 LeBron James [1-3]

For our final two players, we quantify the unique and devastating forms of “gravity” in basketball. In particular, off-ball gravity that is essentially missing from the box score and traditional NBA stats or measurements, the strongest interior force of the century and what happens to a team with a mega gravitational force running around the entire court. Support at www.patreon.com/thinkingbasketball

We look at, perhaps, the 3 best peaks of the 21st century, all from slightly different time periods, environments and circumstances. How does an “ideal” or non ideal environment influence how we evaluate a mega peak? How do we account for era changes that influence spacing and the proliferation of shooters? Can anyone solve the 3 LeBrody problem? Support at www.patreon.com/thinkingbasketballPreviously discussed players and their ranges:Jason Kidd [21-32]Jayson Tatum [20-28]Dwight Howard [17-28]Draymond Green [18-26]Manu Ginobili [17-24]James Harden [13-25]Luka Doncic [12-24]Tracy McGrady [10-24]Anthony Davis [12-23]Joel Embiid [10-23]Shai Gilgeous-Alexander [7-20]Dirk Nowitzki [7-19]Chris Paul [6-17]Steve Nash [8-19]Kawhi Leonard [7-16]Kevin Durant [7-15]Giannis Antetokounmpo [6-15]Kobe Bryant [6-15]Dwyane Wade [4-11]

How do we make sense of small samples and outlier signals in the playoffs? How much should specifically good or bad matchups influence playoff “performance?” We discuss some titanic big men, their coaches, environments, teammate synergies and how much we should care about their individual scoring numbers in the postseason. Support at www.patreon.com/thinkingbasketballPreviously discussed players and their ranges:Jason Kidd [21-32]Jayson Tatum [20-28]Dwight Howard [17-28]Draymond Green [18-26]Manu Ginobili [17-24]James Harden [13-25]Luka Doncic [12-24]Tracy McGrady [10-24]Anthony Davis [12-23]Joel Embiid [10-23]Shai Gilgeous-Alexander [7-20]Dirk Nowitzki [7-19]Chris Paul [6-17]Steve Nash [8-19]Kawhi Leonard [7-16]Kevin Durant [7-15]Giannis Antetokounmpo [6-15]Kobe Bryant [6-15]Dwyane Wade [4-11]