The Flatwoods Monster: Horror in Braxton County

On October 31st, 1969, two high school students, Patricia Spencer and Pamela Hobley vanished without a trace from Oscoda, Michigan. In this episode of Talking till Dawn, we investigate their disappearance and hope that someone out there knows the truth. If you know anything that can help find Patricia and Pamela, please contact the Oscoda police department: https://www.oscodatownshipmi.gov/government_departments/police_department.php We do our best to handle such topics delicately and with respect to the victims, but should anything discussed badly affect your emotional well being, please talk to someone, or call one of the following numbers: Samaritans support network (UK): 116 123 Distress & Lifeline (USA): 1800 273 8255  Support Talking Till Dawn: http://www.patreon.com/talkingtilldawn Website: www.talkingtilldawn.com Twitter: www.x.com/@TalkingTill Email: [email protected] SOURCES: https://charleyproject.org/case/patricia-ann-spencer https://charleyproject.org/case/pamela-sue-hobley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Patricia_Spencer_and_Pamela_Hobley https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/mi-harold-covey-20-oscoda-23-dec-1976.619500/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Dawn_Magyar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Henry_Abbott https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/mi-patricia-spencer-16-pamela-hobley-15-oscoda-31-oct-1969.146971/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/halloween-mystery-where-are-girls-who-vanished-from-oscoda-michigan-45-years-ago/ https://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1673dmmi.html https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/mi-patricia-spencer-16-pamela-hobley-15-oscoda-31-oct-1969.146971/page-11#post-17891836 https://unexplainedrealms.medium.com/pamela-hobley-and-patricia-spencer-had-a-few-things-in-common-they-attended-the-same-school-were-a6ef91367961 https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/KAPN/date/1969-10-31 https://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Pages/casedetail.aspx?caseid=4394 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland_County_Child_Killer https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/oh-eileen-adams-14-toledo-18-dec-1967.45553/ https://www.thedailybeast.com/arthur-ream-case-cops-are-digging-up-this-child-killers-burial-ground-again https://murderpedia.org/male.W/w/williams-leslie-allen.htm https://fornology.blogspot.com/2014/07/john-norman-collins-associate-andrew.html https://namus.nij.ojp.gov/case/MP14993 https://www.namus.gov/UnidentifiedPersons/Case#/57344 https://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/article/was-the-vietnam-war-responsible-for-creating-a-generation-of-serial-killers https://fornology.blogspot.com/2014/07/john-norman-collins-associate-andrew.html https://www.grunge.com/1128603/the-night-stalker-richard-ramirezs-violent-cousin-miguel-may-have-inspired-his-crimes/ https://expendableforacause.net/2023/03/09/something-was-terribly-wrong-with-miguel/  

In the late 1500s, a huge man-eating wolf was attacking and devouring the people of Bedburg, Bavaria. It stalked the forests, fields, and even the darkened streets of the surrounding areas. No one was safe from its blood-thirst. Fear and rumours spread throughout the land, until finally that dreaded word was whispered from neighbour to neighbour. A word that would explain how the beast could so easily appear and disappear at will: 'Werewolf'. In this episode of Talking till Dawn, we investigate the events surrounding this alleged werewolf, pouring over old manuscripts and records to uncover the truth behind this terrifying case and the man who was accused of being a real werewolf: Peter Stump.  Please do leave a review, it really helps the podcast build an audience. Many thanks. This episode contains discussion of topics, including torture, murder, infanticide, and cannabilism which some listeners may find distressing. We do our best to handle such topics delicately and with respect to the victims, but should anything discussed badly affect your emotional well being, please talk to someone, or call one of the following numbers: Samaritans support network (UK): 116 123 Distress & Lifeline (USA): 1800 273 8255   Support Talking Till Dawn: patreon.com/talkingtilldawn Website: talkingtilldawn.com Twitter: @TalkingTill Email: [email protected]   Source links   https://vamzzz.com/blog/peter-stumpp-werewolf-or-political-scapegoat/ https://danarehn.com/2022/05/04/werewolf-petter-stump/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirov_wolf_attacks https://sites.pitt.edu/~dash/werewolf.html#stubbe%22 https://omeka.cloud.unimelb.edu.au/execution-ballads/items/show/1150 https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/1027231 "A True Discourse. Declaring the Damnable Life and Death of One Stubbe Peeter, a Most Wicked Sorcerer." London, 1590. (original English version) Several articles from Newspapers.com.    

January 5, 1935: A young man travelling under an assumed name is found mortally wounded in a room at the President Hotel in Kansas City. His identity and the bizarre circumstances of his death spark a mystery that will puzzle investigators to this day. This episode contains discussion of topics, including suicide and self-harm, which some listeners may find distressing Samaritans support network (UK): 116 123 Distress & Lifeline (USA): 1800 273 8255   Support Talking Till Dawn: patreon.com/talkingtilldawn Website: talkingtilldawn.com Twitter: @TalkingTill Email: [email protected]   Source links   https://kansascitymag.com/news/longform/the-owen-case/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Artemus_Ogletree https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/167645421 https://web.archive.org/web/20120321030654/https://www.kclibrary.org/blog/kc-unbound/mystery-room-1046-pt-1-roland-t-owen https://www.al.com/news/erry-2018/09/56ecbe55ac9479/the-mystery-of-what-was-in-the.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_%27American_Beauty%27

Birmingham, England - 18th April 1985: 17-year-old Marion Terry responds to a job listing, and within hours she is found dead under bizarre circumstances in the home of amateur filmmaker Geoffrey Jones. The tragedy would trigger a minor media frenzy, plumb the depths of one man's macabre obsessions, and fuel even darker rumours of snuff rings and murder-for-media... Support Talking Till Dawn: patreon.com/talkingtilldawn Website: talkingtilldawn.com Twitter: @TalkingTill Email: [email protected] This episode contains discussion of topics which some listeners may find distressing. Samaritans support network (UK): 116 123 Distress & Lifeline (USA): 1800 273 8255

Croglin, northwest England: A legend looms over this remote Cumbrian village. A harrowing tale of desecrated tombs, sinister intruders, and bloodsucking terror.  One of a very few examples of the vampire in pre-20th Century English folklore, the "Cumberland Phenomenon" is usually presented as a true event... but how much truth does it actually hold? Diving deep into the history and literature of the case, Mike and Martin aim to find out. Support Talking Till Dawn: patreon.com/talkingtilldawn Website: talkingtilldawn.com Twitter: @TalkingTill Email: [email protected] This episode contains discussion of topics which some listeners may find distressing. Samaritans support network (UK): 116 123 Distress &  Lifeline (USA): 1800 273 8255            

We conclude our exploration of the infamous Paisley Witch case of the late 17th Century, examining the horrific details of the trial and subsequent executions, as well as the cultural -- and some say supernatural -- aftershocks that resonate to this day. Support Talking till Dawn: patreon.com/talkingtilldawn Website: talkingtilldawn.com Twitter: @TalkingTill Email: [email protected] This episode contains discussion of topics which some listeners may find distressing. Samaritans support network (UK): 116 123   Distress &  Lifeline (USA): 1800 273 8255

Mike and Martin take a look at one of the more obscure monsters of Scottish folklore: the Earth Hound, a mysterious burrowing animal reputed to inhabit graveyards and feast on the bodies of the dead... Support Talking Till Dawn: patreon.com/talkingtilldawn Website: talkingtilldawn.com Twitter: @TalkingTill Email: [email protected]

In January 1909, a wave of winged terror swept New Jersey and southeast Pennsylvania. Sightings abounded of a strange, flying creature marauding its way through the settlements of the Delaware River and down to the Atlantic coast, menacing townspeople, attacking pets, and leaving impossible prints in the snow... Something strange had emerged from the wild Pine Barrens at the heart of New Jersey, something out of the mists of myth and history... Martin and Mike reach back into those mists to uncover the tangled tale of folklore, religious heresy, slander and superstition behind the legend of the Jersey Devil. Support Talking Till Dawn: patreon.com/talkingtilldawn Website: talkingtilldawn.com Twitter: @TalkingTill Email: [email protected]

Just a wee update for your lovely ears. Did that sound sinister? It wasn't meant to. I promise.

In myths and legends across Europe -- and beyond -- one strange scenario plays out time and time again: a spectral horde thundering across the night sky, pursuing otherworldly prey, or clamouring for battle. Monstrous creatures, werewolves, trolls, old gods and fairy folk. Their arrival foretelling war or natural disaster... the terrifying procession known as the Wild Hunt. In this special Christmas episode, we explore appearances of the Wild Hunt in legend and history, seek out its possible origins, and examine its unseen influence on modern Christmas celebrations. (The final part of The Paisley Witches will debut in January)  Support Talking till Dawn: patreon.com/talkingtilldawn Website: talkingtilldawn.com Twitter: @TalkingTill Email: [email protected]