Enemy Mine (1985)

Flashdance (1983)—Dream Big or Go Home?In this energetic episode of The Most Excellent 80s Movies Podcast, hosts Krissy Lenz and Nathan Blackwell dive into the iconic 1983 film Flashdance. Neither had seen the movie before, leading to some surprising reactions as they examine this influential 80s classic through modern eyes.Nathan reveals how Flashdance became the progenitor of the Simpson-Bruckheimer production style that dominated 80s and 90s cinema, influencing everything from Top Gun to Dirty Dancing and Footloose. The hosts discuss how this $7.5 million film that grossed nearly $100 million established the MTV-style visual language that would later evolve into the Michael Bay aesthetic.While Krissy found herself disappointed by the movie overall (giving it just 5 out of 10 "bras removed through shirts"), both hosts agree that the dance sequences are electrifying highlights in an otherwise disjointed narrative. They examine the film's problematic message about dreams and failure—that one setback means you should abandon your ambitions altogether.The hosts also explore the complex portrayal of Alex (Jennifer Beals) as a young woman experiencing sexual awakening while making questionable emotional decisions, and discuss the fascinating behind-the-scenes facts about Marine Jahan, the uncredited dance double who performed most of the iconic dance sequences.Other Topics Covered:The problematic age gap between 18-year-old Alex and her 36-year-old boss/love interestThe contrast between burlesque dancing at Mawby's Bar versus stripping at the club across the streetThe film's impressive soundtrack filled with 80s bangersJennifer Beals' performance and her famous "bra removal through sweater" techniqueThe supporting characters' abandoned dreams and limited character developmentNathan's recommendation of All That Jazz (1979) for a more substantive dance filmKrissy's unexpected endorsement of welding as an empowering hobbyWhether you're revisiting this classic or discovering it for the first time, this episode offers fascinating insights into how Flashdance helped shape 80s cinema despite its narrative shortcomings. As the hosts remind us, sometimes the most influential films aren't necessarily the most cohesive—but they can still deliver unforgettable moments that stand the test of time. --We couldn't do this without your support of The Most Excellent 80s Movies Podcast! Thank you!Join now for: $5/Month • $55/year • Learn More

The Darkest Indiana Jones AdventureIn this episode of The Most Excellent 80s Movies Podcast, hosts Krissy Lenz and Nathan Blackwell dive into the controversial second installment of the Indiana Jones franchise, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984). This prequel to Raiders of the Lost Ark takes our hero to Shanghai and then India for what many consider the darkest chapter in the series.The hosts explore how the film's darker tone was influenced by George Lucas and Steven Spielberg's personal lives at the time, with both going through difficult periods that affected the creative direction. Despite being considered the black sheep of the original trilogy, Temple of Doom has gained appreciation over time for its unique qualities and memorable moments.Nathan shares his childhood memory of seeing the film in theaters and covering his eyes during the infamous heart-ripping scene—the very scene that, along with Red Dawn, prompted the creation of the PG-13 rating that changed Hollywood forever. Both hosts give the film high marks (8-8.5 out of 10), placing it just below The Last Crusade in their rankings.Key topics discussed:How Temple of Doom works as a prequel set in 1935 (before Raiders)The incredible Shanghai club opening sequence and its filming challengesShort Round as one of the best sidekicks in the series who sadly never returnedKate Capshaw's performance as Willie Scott and her real-life sedatives for the bug scenesThe film's cultural insensitivity issues and how they were meant to be portrayedWhy the mine cart chase might be 20% too long but remains iconicPractical effects including stop-motion animation and early compositing techniquesIndiana Jones' character as more of an anti-hero than classic heroThe brilliant suspension bridge finale and Mola Ram as a memorable villainIn their deep cut recommendations, Nathan suggests exploring Bollywood classics like Om Shanti Om featuring Shahrukh Khan, while noting that Amrish Puri (Mola Ram) appears in the classic DDLJ. Krissy recommends checking out Ke Huy Quan's (Short Round) recent renaissance, including his Oscar-winning performance in Everything Everywhere All at Once.Whether you're covering your eyes during the heart scene or laughing at Willie's dinner reactions, Temple of Doom remains a unique, polarizing adventure that helped define 80s action cinema. --We couldn't do this without your support of The Most Excellent 80s Movies Podcast! Thank you!Join now for: $5/Month • $55/year • Learn More

David Lynch's Dark Suburban MasterpieceJoin hosts Krissy Lenz and Nathan Blackwell with special guests Andy Nelson and Pete Wright as they dive into David Lynch's controversial classic Blue Velvet (1986), a film that exposed the dark underbelly beneath idyllic small-town America.When college student Jeffrey Beaumont (Kyle MacLachlan) discovers a severed ear in a field, he's drawn into a twisted mystery involving nightclub singer Dorothy Vallens (Isabella Rossellini) and the terrifying Frank Booth (Dennis Hopper). The hosts explore how Lynch creates a jarring contrast between 1950s suburban aesthetics and the disturbing criminal world that exists beneath the surface.The panel discusses how Blue Velvet serves as Lynch's most accessible work while still containing his signature surrealism. Unlike his later films that abandon traditional narrative structure, Blue Velvet follows a relatively straightforward detective story, making it an excellent entry point for viewers new to Lynch's filmography. The film's lasting impact can be seen in later works like Twin Peaks, which further developed many of the themes and visual styles first explored here.Dennis Hopper's unhinged performance as Frank Booth remains one of cinema's most memorable villains, with the hosts noting how Hopper reportedly told Lynch, "I am Frank Booth," when accepting the role that many actors had turned down due to its disturbing nature.Topics Discussed:The film's juxtaposition of 1950s idealism with 1980s darknessLynch's signature visual style and sound design techniquesThe voyeuristic themes and Jeffrey's seduction by darknessIsabella Rossellini's haunting performance as Dorothy VallensHow Blue Velvet compares to Lynch's other worksThe famous "Pabst Blue Ribbon" sceneLynch's influence on subsequent filmmakers and mediaEach host's rating of the film (on a scale of Pabst Blue Ribbons)The episode concludes with deep-cut recommendations including The Reflecting Skin (1990), John Cheever's short story "The Swimmer," and the video games Alan Wake and Control - all works that share thematic or stylistic elements with Lynch's universe.Whether you're a Lynch devotee or curious newcomer, this episode offers fascinating insights into a film that continues to disturb and captivate audiences over three decades after its release. --We couldn't do this without your support of The Most Excellent 80s Movies Podcast! Thank you!Join now for: $5/Month • $55/year • Learn More

A Disney Renaissance ClassicJoin hosts Krissy Lenz and Nathan Blackwell with special guest Mandy Kaplan as they dive under the sea to explore Disney's animation breakthrough The Little Mermaid. This 1989 film marked the beginning of the Disney Renaissance and set the template for modern Disney princess stories with its memorable songs and colorful characters.The trio discusses how this film revolutionized Disney animation, introducing the now-standard "I Want" song with "Part of Your World" (which executives initially wanted to cut!). They explore how Ariel represented a new kind of Disney princess: rebellious, independent, and actively pursuing her dreams, even if those dreams involved marrying a handsome prince at sixteen.From Ursula's divine inspiration (literally—she was modeled after drag queen Divine) to the spectacular voice talents of Jodi Benson, Pat Carroll, and Buddy Hackett, the podcast examines what made this film so magical. They also hilariously point out the movie's scientific inaccuracies and questionable life lessons while acknowledging its undeniable charm and cultural impact.Key topics covered:How The Little Mermaid launched the Disney RenaissanceThe groundbreaking songwriting and animation techniquesScientific inaccuracies that plague the underwater worldAriel's questionable decision-making as a lovestruck teenagerPerfect villain creation with Ursula the sea witchThe hidden Disney princess dress references in Ariel's pink gownVoice actor highlights, including Mandy's date with the voice of Prince Eric!The film's enduring legacy and influence on subsequent Disney filmsDeep cut recommendations including Robin Hood, Enchanted, and the Descendants franchiseWhether you're a Disney adult or just appreciate the film's artistic significance, this episode captures why The Little Mermaid continues to enchant audiences decades later. As Krissy notes, "Whatever the magic is, they've got it." So grab your dinglehopper, brush up on your seagull vocabulary, and remember to be excellent to each other! --We couldn't do this without your support of The Most Excellent 80s Movies Podcast! Thank you!Join now for: $5/Month • $55/year • Learn More

The Epic Conclusion to the Original Star Wars TrilogyJoin hosts Krissy Lenz and Nathan Blackwell, along with special guest Francis Zagarigo, as they dive into the thrilling conclusion of the original Star Wars trilogy—Return of the Jedi (1983). This episode explores how the final installment wraps up the saga with its unforgettable characters, iconic scenes, and the ultimate battle between good and evil.Francis shares that this was his first time watching the film and declares it his favorite of the trilogy. Nathan, on the other hand, ranks it third but acknowledges its powerful ending. The hosts debate the merits of the Jabba's Palace sequence, with Krissy humorously describing it as "a Colombian drug dealer's backyard party," complete with dancing girls and bounty hunters.The group also examines Luke Skywalker's character arc, noting his all-black costume and monk-like demeanor, which hint at his potential temptation by the dark side. They highlight the reveal of Luke’s green lightsaber, a practical filmmaking choice that perfectly aligns with his character's evolution.Key Topics CoveredThe impressive Jabba the Hutt puppet that weighed 2,000 pounds and cost $500,000 to buildThe problematic yet iconic "Slave Leia" metal bikini costumeThe Ewoks as an allegory for indigenous peoples overcoming technologically superior invadersIan McDiarmid's scene-stealing performance as Emperor PalpatineThe emotional redemption of Darth Vader and his sacrifice to save LukeThe satisfying conclusion that brings the original trilogy full circleSpecial edition changes, including CGI additions and an altered musical numberHost Ratings and Deep Cut RecommendationsThe hosts rate the film highly: Francis and Nathan both give it 8.5 out of 10 Ewoks, while Krissy insists it deserves a perfect 10 out of 10 Ewoks. For "deep cut" recommendations, Nathan suggests The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King as another excellent trilogy conclusion, Francis recommends Gremlins 2, and Krissy suggests Phineas and Ferb: Star Wars.Whether you're a lifelong Star Wars fan or experiencing the trilogy for the first time, this episode captures the magic that made Return of the Jedi an unforgettable cinematic experience that continues to resonate with audiences decades later. --We couldn't do this without your support of The Most Excellent 80s Movies Podcast! Thank you!Join now for: $5/Month • $55/year • Learn More

Groundbreaking Digital Frontier or 80s Tech Fantasy?Join hosts Krissy Lenz and Nathan Blackwell with special guest Joe Malone as they venture into the neon-lit digital world of Tron (1982). This revolutionary sci-fi adventure follows computer programmer Kevin Flynn (Jeff Bridges) as he's transported inside a computer system where he must battle alongside Tron against the tyrannical Master Control Program.The hosts dive deep into what makes this film a landmark in cinema history—it was the first major film to use extensive computer-generated imagery, so groundbreaking that the Academy disqualified it from special effects nominations because they considered using computers "cheating." Despite its commercial underperformance, the film's arcade games became massive hits, showcasing its cultural impact.Joe shares his fascinating journey with the film, initially creating a list titled "Why I Hate It" after his first viewing, only to create a contrasting "Why I Actually Really Like It" list after his second watch. The hosts agree that while the narrative sometimes falls flat and the graphics appear dated by today's standards, the film deserves recognition for pioneering digital filmmaking and presciently exploring AI concerns that remain relevant today.Nathan, a childhood fan, rates it 7.5/10 "frisbees," while newfound Tron defender Joe gives it 7.6, and Krissy lands at 6.5, noting that even her cat refused to watch it with her.Key topics discussed:Jeff Bridges' performance and undeniable charmThe revolutionary computer graphics and special effectsThe film's religious undertones with users portrayed as godlike beingsThe iconic Light Cycle sequencesSimilarities to Star Wars' narrative structureConnections to modern concerns about artificial intelligenceThe unusual costume designs and world-buildingThe surprising romantic "threpple" dynamics between charactersThe episode concludes with movie recommendations including Blade Runner (1982), WarGames (1983), and Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (2004) as companions to Tron. Whether you're a devoted fan or new to this digital frontier, this episode illuminates why Tron remains a fascinating artifact of early digital filmmaking and 80s sci-fi imagination. --We couldn't do this without your support of The Most Excellent 80s Movies Podcast! Thank you!Join now for: $5/Month • $55/year • Learn More

A Frozen Adventure in a Galaxy Far, Far AwayIn this episode of The Most Excellent 80s Movies Podcast, hosts Krissy Lenz and Nathan Blackwell are joined by special guest Francis Zagarigo to discuss the iconic sequel Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back. As a certified young person who had never seen the original trilogy before, Francis brings a fresh perspective to this beloved sci-fi classic.The hosts dive deep into what makes Empire such a standout film in the Star Wars saga. Nathan shares how this sequel takes a darker, more character-driven approach compared to the spectacle-focused original. Unlike the triumphant ending of A New Hope, Empire delivers a murkier "to be continued" conclusion that initially disappointed audiences but has since become celebrated as the franchise's pinnacle achievement.Krissy and Francis analyze the crackling romance between Han and Leia, from their contentious banter to the iconic "I love you"/"I know" exchange. Meanwhile, Francis expresses particular delight with the ice planet Hoth and less enthusiasm for the unnecessary tauntaun deaths. The trio also discusses Yoda's introduction, marveling at how a puppet became one of cinema's most believable and profound characters.Other topics covered:The Millennium Falcon's persistent mechanical problems and lovable characterDarth Vader's dramatic dinner table reveal in Cloud CityThe controversial "I am your father" twist and its impactLando Calrissian's introduction and betrayalThe special edition changes and how they compare to the originalLuke's questionable decision to abandon his Jedi trainingThe surprisingly minimal consequences of losing a hand in the Star Wars universeIn their final ratings, both hosts give Empire a perfect 10, acknowledging its profound influence on their love of cinema, while Francis awards it a respectable 7. The episode concludes with recommendations for viewers who enjoyed Empire: Nathan suggests the Disney+ series Skeleton Crew, Krissy recommends the What We Do in the Shadows episode featuring Mark Hamill, and Francis proposes Mr. & Mrs. Smith for those who enjoy the enemies-to-lovers dynamic.Whether you're a lifelong Star Wars fan or experiencing the trilogy for the first time, this episode offers both nostalgic appreciation and fresh insights into what makes The Empire Strikes Back an enduring sci-fi masterpiece. --We couldn't do this without your support of The Most Excellent 80s Movies Podcast! Thank you!Join now for: $5/Month • $55/year • Learn More

Hello Friends of the Most Excellent 80s Movies Podcast! We are taking a short break between seasons during February and March. In the meantime please enjoy these REBROADCAST episodes, some favorites of ours, to tide you over until we return on Wednesday April 9th with new episodes!Join Filmmaker Nathan Blackwell (Voyage Trekkers, The Last Movie Ever Made) and Comedian Krissy Lenz (Neighborhood Comedy Theatre, Saturday Matinée Podcast) with special guest, multiple Emmy award-winning Leigh Ann Dolan (Busy Tonight, Phoenix Film Festival, Valley Youth Theater) as they quip their way through the world of improbable illness and ineffectual men in their conversation about Steel Magnolias. What will the Deep Cut Recommendations be? What will they rate this classic "laughter through tears" extravaganza? --We couldn't do this without your support of The Most Excellent 80s Movies Podcast! Thank you!Join now for: $5/Month • $55/year • Learn More

Hello Friends of the Most Excellent 80s Movies Podcast! We are taking a short break between seasons during February and March. In the meantime please enjoy these REBROADCAST episodes, some favorites of ours, to tide you over until we return on Wednesday April 9th with new episodes!Get ready to saddle up for some wildly excellent 80s action with The Most Excellent 80s Movies podcast's tubular recap of Lethal Weapon!Our radical hosts Krissy, Nathan, and special guest Andy Andy Nelson gnaw their way through this primo slice of buddy-cop nostalgia. It's 1987 and extreme odd couple, detectives Riggs and Murtaugh, are trading quips and bullets on the streets of LA. The hosts serve up a bodacious summary of this classic flick starring Mel Gibson and Danny Glover as the mismatched cop duo. Majorly Important Points:They dish on how this flick totally created the formula for buddy cop flicks with its wacky partners. We dig it!Some stuff like Riggs' grief and the villains are now kinda bogus and don't hold up. Bummer!The action scenes are styling and they can roll with the occasional plot holes. Sweet!They analyze whether the wild Western-style ending fights really move the story. Hmmm.Other Triumphant Topics:This movie screams the 1980s with its cliches, tropes, and references. Classic!The action is almost as extreme as director Michael Bay's future flicks. Ka-boom!Some bits about women and doctors are now super cringe. Not cool!Is this really a holiday classic or just set at Christmas? We're not sure, dudes.They rate this radical movie between 6 and 8 "buns" out of 10.In conclusion, this most excellent 80s flick is a pioneer of buddy cop films despite some heinous elements that don't age well. --We couldn't do this without your support of The Most Excellent 80s Movies Podcast! Thank you!Join now for: $5/Month • $55/year • Learn More

Hello Friends of the Most Excellent 80s Movies Podcast! We are taking a short break between seasons during February and March. In the meantime please enjoy these REBROADCAST episodes, some favorites of ours, to tide you over until we return on Wednesday April 9th with new episodes!Join hosts Krissy Lenz, Nathan Blackwell and special guest Nate McWhortor (Gank that Drank: A Supernatural Drinking Game Podcast) as they journey down the rabbit hole of 1988's groundbreaking live-action/animated smash hit Who Framed Roger Rabbit. In this fun and insightful episode, we look at:The stunning visual effects that seamlessly blended live action and animation like never before, paving the way for modern CGIHow Robert Zemeckis brought together Disney and Warner Bros. characters on screen for the first time, an almost unthinkable crossover at the timeJessica Rabbit as a male fantasy icon but also a surprisingly nuanced female character who defies expectationsThe core theme of laughter as a unifying force contrasted with the humorless villainsThe not-so-subtle satire of Los Angeles development and transportationHow well the film holds up today as an introduction to noir for kids and familiesKrissy, Nate, and Nathan also share their personal memories of seeing Who Framed Roger Rabbit for the first time, get into the deeper themes, and analyze what still works and what doesn't all these years later. It's a spirited back-and-forth between two movie lovers taking a fond look back at a comedy classic.Other topics discussed:The rapid-fire opening cartoon sequence introducing Roger RabbitThe groundbreaking interaction of cartoons and humans at the Ink & Paint ClubThe horrifying introduction of Christopher Lloyd's Judge Doom and his deadly "Dip"The scene-stealing performance of Bob Hoskins as Eddie ValiantThe chase scenes and vintage Los Angeles settingsThe mystery plot and film noir tropesHow the plot wraps up rather quickly in the endComparing Who Framed Roger Rabbit to Cool World and Space JamSo put on your best Eddie Valiant fedora and give a listen to Krissy, Nate and Nathan pay tribute to this outrageous live action/animated mashup that brought new levels of visual wizardry to the big screen. It's a spirited and enlightening dive into a comedy classic that still delights today. --We couldn't do this without your support of The Most Excellent 80s Movies Podcast! Thank you!Join now for: $5/Month • $55/year • Learn More