With The Perrys

“Maybe riding off the coattails of my parents’ faith won’t work for me anymore.” Jerry “JC” Shirer, grandson of Tony Evans and son of Priscilla Shirer, joins Jackie and Preston for a conversation about making your faith your own. JC shares about his journey from D1 athlete to full-time ministry, talks about what his generation is getting right and wrong, and discusses what it looks like to grow up surrounded by giants in the faith yet still have to figure out what it looks like to personally walk with Jesus. Connect with JC: www.instagram.com/jerryshirerjr Check out JC's podcast "Full Fledged" with mom Priscilla Shirer: www.instagram.com/officialfullfledged JC's Young Adult Leadership Intensive: https://leaders.goingbeyond.com/https://leaders.goingbeyond.com/ This Episode is Sponsored By: Get 15% off Branch Basics with the code PERRY at branchbasics.com/PERRY #branchbasicspod https://gominno.com/ - Sign up online with code PERRY to get your first month FREE! - With The Perrys is a podcast where biblical truth meets honest conversation. Join Preston Perry and Jackie Hill Perry as they discuss theology, relationships, parenting, culture, and the everyday realities of following Jesus. With humor, transparency, and a deep commitment to Scripture, each episode aims to point listeners back to Christ, deepen their understanding of God's Word, and encourage faithful obedience in every area of life. Subscribe to the newsletter: ⁠https://withtheperrys.myflodesk.com/zhfus4jx1s⁠ Follow Preston: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/preston_n_perry/⁠ Follow Jackie: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jackiehillperry/⁠ Follow The Perrys: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/withtheperrys/⁠ Join Preston's discipleship community for men: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/PrestonPerry/membership⁠ Shop BOLD Apparel: ⁠https://boldapparel.shop/⁠ ⁠withtheperrys.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lament is a spiritual practice, and grief is a holy work. But how does this relate to the topic of loneliness? Because some of us love giving God our ideas but not our tears. You may not receive the comfort and peace you want because you’re not giving God your full self. When you’re missing that comfort, you feel lonely. And the best way to deal with loneliness is to have deep intimacy with the Father. We have to learn to grieve with God, but for many of us, our pride becomes a hindrance to that intimacy. This is part two of a conversation between Preston and Jackie about loneliness. Catch up on part one if you missed it last week: “When You’re Lonely by Design and by Choice” https://youtu.be/wMXNsy9YDnI Scripture references Hebrews 5:7-8 Romans 15:1-4 Psalm 139:1-16 This Episode is Sponsored By: https://weekendtoremember.com - Register now with code PERRY to save $100 - With The Perrys is a podcast where biblical truth meets honest conversation. Join Preston Perry and Jackie Hill Perry as they discuss theology, relationships, parenting, culture, and the everyday realities of following Jesus. With humor, transparency, and a deep commitment to Scripture, each episode aims to point listeners back to Christ, deepen their understanding of God's Word, and encourage faithful obedience in every area of life. Subscribe to the newsletter: ⁠https://withtheperrys.myflodesk.com/zhfus4jx1s⁠ Follow Preston: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/preston_n_perry/⁠ Follow Jackie: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jackiehillperry/⁠ Follow The Perrys: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/withtheperrys/⁠ Join Preston's discipleship community for men: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/PrestonPerry/membership⁠ Shop BOLD Apparel: ⁠https://boldapparel.shop/⁠ ⁠withtheperrys.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Even when we're surrounded by people, we can still feel deeply alone. Loneliness will have you wondering, “Will anyone ever fully see me, know me, and love me in light of what they see?” In this conversation, Jackie and Preston discuss the ways loneliness can leave us vulnerable, when it might be wise to choose being alone with God instead of running to other people, and how the enemy uses isolation to discourage us. They also explore why it’s important that we develop the trust, security and awareness of God’s presence so we’re not discouraged when people leave. This is part one of a two-part conversation, so come back next week for even more discussion of loneliness. Scripture references John 16:32 1 Kings 17:1-5 This Episode is Sponsored By: https://gominno.com/ - Sign up online with code PERRY to get your first month FREE! - With The Perrys is a podcast where biblical truth meets honest conversation. Join Preston Perry and Jackie Hill Perry as they discuss theology, relationships, parenting, culture, and the everyday realities of following Jesus. With humor, transparency, and a deep commitment to Scripture, each episode aims to point listeners back to Christ, deepen their understanding of God's Word, and encourage faithful obedience in every area of life. Subscribe to the newsletter: ⁠https://withtheperrys.myflodesk.com/zhfus4jx1s⁠ Follow Preston: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/preston_n_perry/⁠ Follow Jackie: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jackiehillperry/⁠ Follow The Perrys: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/withtheperrys/⁠ Join Preston's discipleship community for men: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/PrestonPerry/membership⁠ Shop BOLD Apparel: ⁠https://boldapparel.shop/⁠ ⁠withtheperrys.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What do you do with the pain that remains after you’ve forgiven someone? If we look to the Bible for guidance, we see that one-third of the Psalms are “imprecatory prayers,” or prayers for justice or vengeance. It’s in those prayers that we can find some helpful language for handing over that grief and anger to God, trusting Him with the outcome. Nona Jones joins Jackie and Preston to talk about her new book, “The Power of Petty Prayers.” They discuss why we can’t always wait for resentment to disappear before choosing to love, and how bitterness can become a debt we unknowingly hold against others. Check out Nona’s new book, “The Power of Petty Prayers: How to Heal Your Hurt When You're Wounded, Weary, and Just Plain Mad” – https://www.amazon.com/Power-Petty-Prayers-Youre-Wounded/dp/0310368308/ Connect with Nona www.instagram.com/nonanotnora www.nonajones.com Scripture references Psalm 35 Matthew 11:28 This Episode is Sponsored by: https://fieldofgreens.com - Get 20% off with promo code PERRY - With The Perrys is a podcast where biblical truth meets honest conversation. Join Preston Perry and Jackie Hill Perry as they discuss theology, relationships, parenting, culture, and the everyday realities of following Jesus. With humor, transparency, and a deep commitment to Scripture, each episode aims to point listeners back to Christ, deepen their understanding of God's Word, and encourage faithful obedience in every area of life. Subscribe to the newsletter: ⁠https://withtheperrys.myflodesk.com/zhfus4jx1s⁠ Follow Preston: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/preston_n_perry/⁠ Follow Jackie: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jackiehillperry/⁠ Follow The Perrys: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/withtheperrys/⁠ Join Preston's discipleship community for men: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/PrestonPerry/membership⁠ Shop BOLD Apparel: ⁠https://boldapparel.shop/⁠ ⁠withtheperrys.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What does the Bible teach us about aging, and how might our perspective change if we viewed getting older through a theological lens rather than a cultural one? Preston and Jackie sit down with Jen Wilkin to discuss what Scripture says on the topic, explored further in Jen’s new book “Dust to Dust, Aging Wisely in an Anti-Aging World.” Jen, Jackie and Preston talk about why our culture often approaches aging with fear and contempt, how the fall has shaped our experience of our bodies, and what it looks like to embrace aging as part of the story God is telling. They also discuss caring for aging parents, embracing our own future dependence, honoring the wisdom of older generations, and the church’s responsibility to care for people throughout their entire lives. Check out Jen’s new book, “Dust to Dust: Aging Wisely in an Anti-Aging World” – https://www.amazon.com/Dust-Aging-Wisely-Anti-Aging-World/dp/B0GL4W27PX/ Connect with Jen and check out her Bible studies www.instagram.com/jenwilkin www.jenwilkin.net/books-and-studies www.trainingthechurch.com/knowingfaith “At My Mother’s Deathbed, I Discovered the Symmetry of a Long Life” (Jen Wilkin, Christianity Today) Scripture references: Genesis 1, 2 and 3 This Episode is Sponsored By: crossway.org/BeholdingChristWTP - Get a copy of Beholding Christ the book or Bible and get 30% off with a free Crossway plus account. https://gominno.com/ - Sign up online with code PERRY to get your first month FREE! Https://fieldofgreens.com - Get 20% off with promo code PERRY - With The Perrys is a podcast where biblical truth meets honest conversation. Join Preston Perry and Jackie Hill Perry as they discuss theology, relationships, parenting, culture, and the everyday realities of following Jesus. With humor, transparency, and a deep commitment to Scripture, each episode aims to point listeners back to Christ, deepen their understanding of God's Word, and encourage faithful obedience in every area of life. Subscribe to the newsletter: ⁠https://withtheperrys.myflodesk.com/zhfus4jx1s⁠ Follow Preston: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/preston_n_perry/⁠ Follow Jackie: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jackiehillperry/⁠ Follow The Perrys: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/withtheperrys/⁠ Join Preston's discipleship community for men: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/PrestonPerry/membership⁠ Shop BOLD Apparel: ⁠https://boldapparel.shop/⁠ ⁠withtheperrys.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pain changes us, and it can make us bitter before it makes us resilient. We can also become more attached to our pain than to our Savior, and that’s idolatry. Toni Collier joins the Perrys to talk about what bitterness looks like and what it means to reckon with our suffering instead of running from it. Toni and Preston discuss their individual experiences with ADHD and how their brains uniquely process trauma and pain. Toni unpacks her experience with EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing) therapy and how it creates the space to process through hard things. Toni, Jackie and Preston together point to the fact that healing is a communal project – healing requires bringing our suffering to the Lord and to safe people in our lives. Connect with Toni instagram.com/tonijcollier www.youtube.com/@tonijcollier www.tonijcollier.com www.amazon.com/stores/author/B0B1QZ47L2 Check out two seasons of Unshakeable Moxie, a FREE video series from Our Daily Bread, co-hosted by Toni Collier: www.odbm.org/en/media/unshakable-moxie Scripture references: Judges 4 Ruth 1:20 This Episode is Sponsored By: https://weekendtoremember.com - Register now with code PERRY to save $100 Subscribe to the newsletter: ⁠https://withtheperrys.myflodesk.com/zhfus4jx1s⁠ Follow Preston: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/preston_n_perry/⁠ Follow Jackie: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jackiehillperry/⁠ Follow The Perrys: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/withtheperrys/⁠ Join Preston's discipleship community for men: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/PrestonPerry/membership⁠ Shop BOLD Apparel: ⁠https://boldapparel.shop/⁠ ------ To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal: https://paypal.me/withtheperrys? ------ www.withtheperrys.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Y’all love a “storytime” episode and it’s been a while since the Perrys recorded one. The Perrys cover a wide range of topics, from legalism and the idea of “sinless perfection” to stories about identity, “hood” dynamics, and pretending to be someone you’re not. Jackie and Preston discuss the theology of justification and sanctification as they remember meeting someone during a stop on a poetry tour who claimed he had not sinned in 10 years. Then you’ll hear some high-school Jackie stories – like the time she was a fake gang member on her old Black Planet page – plus Preston’s recollection of the time he got robbed in Nigeria for multiple hours. It’s a funny one – enjoy. Scripture references: Romans 7:13-20, 23-24 Romans 7:5 1 Corinthians 1:2 This Episode is Sponsored By: crossway.org/WTPlyrics - Purchase The Sing! Hymnal and get 30% off with a free Crossway plus account. https://shopify.com/perry - Sign up for your FREE trial today! Subscribe to the newsletter: https://withtheperrys.myflodesk.com/zhfus4jx1s Follow Preston: https://www.instagram.com/preston_n_perry/ Follow Jackie: https://www.instagram.com/jackiehillperry/ Follow The Perrys: https://www.instagram.com/withtheperrys/ Join Preston's discipleship community for men: https://www.patreon.com/PrestonPerry/membership Shop BOLD Apparel: https://boldapparel.shop/ ------ To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal: https://paypal.me/withtheperrys? To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner. ------ www.withtheperrys.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We hear a lot about people experiencing “father wounds” but what about those who carry heartache, anger or sorrow because of a wounding mother? When Dr. Sarita Lyons joined Jackie for the Glory Conference in 2023, an attendee asked about navigating difficult relationships with mothers. Feeling burdened by the Holy Spirit after that interaction and many conversations that followed it, Dr. Sarita has written a book to help people grieve honestly and heal deeply. Jackie, Preston and Dr. Sarita Lyons discuss what it means to honor your mother while still acknowledging the ways you’ve been hurt. They explore the difference between godly sorrow and condemnation, what it looks like to hold truth and grace together, and how the Gospel offers hope for wholeness. Check out “Honor Thy Mother: How to Grieve, Heal, and Make Peace with Your Mother Wounds” – www.saritalyons.com/honor-thy-mother-book Connect with Dr. Sarita Lyons www.saritalyons.com www.instagram.com/drsaritalyons Honor Thy Mother Conference in October – saritalyons.com/honorthymotherconference This Episode is Sponsored By: https://fieldofgreens.com - Get 20% off with promo code PERRY Subscribe to the newsletter: https://withtheperrys.myflodesk.com/zhfus4jx1s Follow Preston: https://www.instagram.com/preston_n_perry/ Follow Jackie: https://www.instagram.com/jackiehillperry/ Follow The Perrys: https://www.instagram.com/withtheperrys/ Join Preston's discipleship community for men: https://www.patreon.com/PrestonPerry/membership Shop BOLD Apparel: https://boldapparel.shop/ ------ To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal: https://paypal.me/withtheperrys? To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner. ------ www.withtheperrys.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

People say, “We’re more divided than ever before,” but are we okay with that, or are we going to do something about it? Are we normalizing division and disrespecting God by not prioritizing something He does? Jackie and Preston are joined by Pricelis Perreaux-Dominguez for a conversation on fighting for unity in the church. Unity does not mean erasing differences to have complete uniformity – that can lead to tribalism, idolatry, and ultimately dehumanization. The church has to be willing to lean into discomfort for the sake of unity in the Body of Christ, and that’s going to require us to actively pursue proximity, curiosity, humility, and honest conversations. Check out “False Peace: How to Reject the Lie of Sameness, Embrace Difference, and Embody True Unity” – https://www.amazon.com/False-Peace-Sameness-Embrace-Difference/dp/1587436701 Connect with Pricelis www.instagram.com/pricelispd www.sowerssummit.com www.pricelispd.com Scripture references: Ephesians 4:1-3 Acts 1-12 (stories of the early church) This Episode is Sponsored by: https://gominno.com/ - Sign up online with code PERRY to get your first month FREE! https://magicspoon.com/PERRY - Get $5 off your next order! With The Perrys is a podcast where biblical truth meets honest conversation. Join Preston Perry and Jackie Hill Perry as they discuss theology, relationships, parenting, culture, and the everyday realities of following Jesus. With humor, transparency, and a deep commitment to Scripture, each episode aims to point listeners back to Christ, deepen their understanding of God's Word, and encourage faithful obedience in every area of life. Subscribe to the newsletter: ⁠https://withtheperrys.myflodesk.com/zhfus4jx1s⁠ Follow Preston: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/preston_n_perry/⁠ Follow Jackie: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jackiehillperry/⁠ Follow The Perrys: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/withtheperrys/⁠ Join Preston's discipleship community for men: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/PrestonPerry/membership⁠ Shop BOLD Apparel: ⁠https://boldapparel.shop/⁠ ⁠withtheperrys.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We have to think about what we’re thinking about. Go back and read that again. Our thought life as Christ followers matters. It’s important we remain vigilant to identify and uproot the lies we’re believing, and to do that continually in community with the power of the Holy Spirit. This is part two of a conversation on the battlefield of the mind. If you missed The Work of Mind Renewal, go back and watch on YouTube or listen on your platform of choice: https://youtu.be/n2nHa8_mSzQ Scripture references:  Romans 8:5-9, 11 Ephesians 1:17-20 This Episode is Sponsored By: https://weekendtoremember.com - Register now for half price with code SAVE50 through September 21, 2026. - With The Perrys is a podcast where biblical truth meets honest conversation. Join Preston Perry and Jackie Hill Perry as they discuss theology, relationships, parenting, culture, and the everyday realities of following Jesus. With humor, transparency, and a deep commitment to Scripture, each episode aims to point listeners back to Christ, deepen their understanding of God's Word, and encourage faithful obedience in every area of life. Subscribe to the newsletter: ⁠https://withtheperrys.myflodesk.com/zhfus4jx1s⁠ Follow Preston: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/preston_n_perry/⁠ Follow Jackie: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jackiehillperry/⁠ Follow The Perrys: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/withtheperrys/⁠ Join Preston's discipleship community for men: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/PrestonPerry/membership⁠ Shop BOLD Apparel: ⁠https://boldapparel.shop/⁠ ⁠withtheperrys.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices