The Smashing Pumpkast podcast

The Smashing Pumpkast

The Smashing Pumpkast

A podcast celebrating the music of The Smashing Pumpkins (and all related side projects), their fans and human connection through art. Hosted by Frank Garcia-Hejl and Patrick O'Brien. Wanna go for a ride?

59 Episodes

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    THE "FINAL" METRO SHOW 12/02/2000

    1:55:59

    It was to be the FINAL performance of The Smashing Pumpkins. An emotional night and return back to where it all started, the Cabaret Metro. While Frank and Pat weren't fortunate enough to attend the show, through the miracle of technology and a VERY crowd-noise-heavy bootleg, they transport themselves back to December 2nd, 2000 (two days before Pat's 17th birthday -- the very EDGE of 17...) to discuss this epic, four-plus hour finale of the band as we knew it. Your hosts discuss their highlights, Frank rants about talking during songs at concerts (again... and again and AGAIN), Pat confesses to robbing Sonic Youth blind of their precious jewels outside an empty parking garage, rare public political slams and Billy's competitive drive that possibly makes him the Michael Jordan of Alternative Rock. All that plus Frank works through his Daddy issues discussing the involvement of William Corgan, Sr. in this historic set (and how Rick Nielsen plays the proud papa well).  Imagine you're riding the rail watching your favorite band say "goodbye," contemplating throwing your dirty undies at Billy... and enjoy! You can listen to the semi-complete bootleg here (all copies of the show cut off the end of Silverf*ck) Follow us on the socials! Twitter: @PumpkinsPodcast Instagram: @smashingpumpkast TikTok: @smashingpumpkast Support us here! buymeacoffee.com/Pumpkast e-mail: thesmashingpumpkast@gmail.com Please rate and review us!
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    BONUS: Riot Fest and Sea.Hear.Now recap w/ Pamela Fisher

    1:17:21

    [This episode is audio from our YouTube video which you can watch HERE.] Frank and Pat couldn’t make it to the long-awaited, triumphant return of The Smashing Pumpkins in concert (and live music in general, and moshing!?), but our guest field correspondent Pamela Fisher is here to share her experiences from both festivals. The good, the beard, the loud and the "QUIET!" Follow us on the socials! Twitter: @PumpkinsPodcast Instagram: @smashingpumpkast TikTok: @smashingpumpkast Support us here! buymeacoffee.com/Pumpkast e-mail: thesmashingpumpkast@gmail.com Please rate and review us!
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    The Machina/Machina II Appreciation Episode

    40:59

    It's another listener appreciation episode! Today we (raindrops + sun)shower praise on Machina and Machina II! Pumpkast listeners share with us what they love about these once underrated but now appreciated and beloved albums.  Thanks to Kim Rosas, Stephen Patrick Kelly, Justin Reeves, Faith Tyler, Will Alexander, Tony Bacigalupi, David G., Scott from South Australia, Evangelina S. and Justin Wilson from Deprogrammed for submitting their thoughts/feelings! Follow us on the socials! Twitter: @PumpkinsPodcast Instagram: @smashingpumpkast TikTok: @smashingpumpkast Support us here! buymeacoffee.com/Pumpkast e-mail: thesmashingpumpkast@gmail.com Please rate and review us!
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    MACHINA II: EP THREE (CR-03)

    46:00

    Well, we always get a little melancholy on the last day of summer... but the last day of MACHINA SUMMER never felt so cold! We conclude our discussion of the Machina II EPs with Alan Passman (When The Pain Starts), covering EP THREE (CR-03) aka "the alt/counter-versions EP." We talk about the epic bones of “If There Is A God,” the "1979" and Fountains of Wayne-like quirk of the alternate version of "Try, Try, Try" and the strange charm of this version of "Heavy Metal Machine." All that plus some appreciation for the DIY aesthetic of the EPs' artwork (we want a flame/drop shirt reprint, please!), and our own Glass-like greater meaning behind loving the Pumpkins. Though we may not have lost our virginity by the end of it, there's no denying it’s been One Crazy Machina Summer!  Follow us on the socials! Twitter @PumpkinsPodcast Instagram: @smashingpumpkast e-mail: thesmashingpumpkast@gmail.com Please rate and review us!
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    MACHINA II: EP TWO (CR-02)

    1:00:08

    Aaaand.... we're back! We continue our in-depth discussion of the Machina II EPs with Alan Passman (When The Pain Starts), covering EP TWO (CR-02). This installment takes us into the spiritual connection of "Soul Power," "Lucky 13" gets us going about Jason Takes Manhattan and we ponder a "Speed Kills"/Monuments To An Elegy connection. We also discuss the misguided criticism of the grandiosity of the band’s visual aesthetic, which versions of songs we prefer and the Machina II Acoustic Demos. All that plus one simple wish: For the next tour to involve Billy performing Madonna-style costume changes to showcase the fashion of the Pumpkins over the years. “Glass wrote this song!”  Follow us on the socials! Twitter @PumpkinsPodcast Instagram: @smashingpumpkast e-mail: thesmashingpumpkast@gmail.com Please rate and review us!
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    MACHINA II: EP ONE (CR-01)

    1:25:18

    Fall is right around the corner, but Machina Summer ain't over yet! Today we're covering the Machina II EPs, starting with EP One (CR-01). Joining us to talk about all three EPs is musician, writer and longtime Pumpkinhead Alan Passman (author of When The Pain Starts), who tells us about the "Stand Inside Your Love"-inspired poem and artwork from his new graphic novel and what the song and band have meant to him over the years. In addition to lots of great insights on the Pumpkins and the Machina era, Alan reveals that he was an extra in the "Perfect" music video, making a plea to Billy/Santa Claus to release the “Perfect House Show" on vinyl. He also shares a paper towel-related interaction with Billy that didn't go so well.  We all discuss the satisfying wail of a Corgan and Iha solo, the Black Sabbath fog of "Saturnine" (and how that song title inspired Frank’s high school alternative band), and the thick, concrete-building sludge that is this version of "Glass’ Theme." All that plus bands that "ripped off" the Pumpkins and the joy of mishearing "widows" as "weirdos."  “If you can’t stand the heat, get off of Mickey Rourke’s sex grill." Enjoy! Follow us on the socials! Twitter @PumpkinsPodcast Instagram: @smashingpumpkast e-mail: thesmashingpumpkast@gmail.com Please rate and review us!
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    MACHINA II/The Friends and Enemies of Modern Music

    2:30:00

    Released for free on the Internet (ever heard of it?) in September of 2000, The Smashing Pumpkins' sixth and "final" studio album, MACHINA II/The Friends and Enemies of Modern Music was an unconventional release, born of resistance from the record label to the idea of a grand Machina double album and an instinct to lean into the new phenomenon of digital file sharing rather than fight it. Despite its bootleg nature and sub-Pono audio quality (sorry, Neil) Machina II is chock full of fan favorites and steeped in a retrospective and introspective view on fame.  In this episode, Frank and Pat delve into the proper, official Machina II album (we'll cover all of the EP tracks in upcoming episodes), discussing everything from Billy’s throwback, child-like coo in "Innosense" to the stone-cold, undeniable spank-ass rock of "Dross." We also get into the the aerial view of the Machina project as a whole and pray to the Almighty Lord Santa for the deluxe reissue. All that plus Frank embraces a wrestling persona and becomes the heel when talking about "Home," and we answer big questions like: Which song reminds Pat of a clown funeral? Is this version of "Here’s to the Atom Bomb" a subtle nod to Courtney Love? And IS "White Spyder" the Pumpkins’ "Ace of Spades"?  We say it's natural/magic, kid!  Follow us on the socials! Twitter @PumpkinsPodcast Instagram: @smashingpumpkast e-mail: thesmashingpumpkast@gmail.com Please rate and review us!
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    MACHINA/THE MACHINES OF GOD (PT. 2 of 2)

    1:44:52

    It's Part Two of our Machina/The Machines of God deep dive! In this episode we go deep into the maturation of the band's jangly, goth, pre-Gish sound into something thick and powerful, the 80's Pop Rock of "The Imploding Voice," and some seeds of CYR to come. We also discuss the Bowie Scary Monsters influence, the beautiful inspiration behind "With Every Light," and Frank's "Crying Tree of Mercury" and Gremlins association. All that plus some much deserved appreciation for the artist behind the Machina album art (and some cool custom skateboards on his website), Vasily Kafanov, our next tour wishlist and dreams of Katie Cole and Sierra Swan doing live backing vocals on some of these ol' tracks. We also ask the big question: Does Machina sync perfectly with The Never Ending Story?! No. It does not, but it’s fun to think it does!  Pale Scales cover used as bed music is by Exit Music. Follow us on the socials! Twitter @PumpkinsPodcast Instagram: @smashingpumpkast e-mail: thesmashingpumpkast@gmail.com Please rate and review us!
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    MACHINA/THE MACHINES OF GOD (PT. 1 of 2)

    2:25:42

    It was the end of The Smashing Pumpkins (for a while, of course). In 2000, the band announced their breakup and released what was to be their final album, Machina/The Machines of God. A loosely conceptual album that got buried in a time of TRL Teen Pop and Nü Metal, over the years Machina has gained the respect and admiration (we believe) it deserves. In Part 1 of our 2-part coverage of "Machina One" we discuss the high concept, Bowie-esque themes of Zero transforming to Glass, The Jekyll & Hyde nature of "The Everlasting Gaze", the Peter Hook hook of "Raindrops + Sunshowers" and the cream of the "radio, radio" songs crop that is "I of the Mourning". We delve deep into the many sonic layers of this deceptively beautiful, challenging album and explore how the band pulls elements from their entire history, circling back to their 80’s roots while implementing all the power and experience they accumulated along the way. Join us as we ponder the "Cherub Rock"/"Heavy Metal Machine" connection, the bittersweet feeling of "This Time" and this week's big thought experiment: Is Machina the daytime companion to The Cure's Disintegration? Think about it... All that and more plus Pat’s Romantic Teen Comedy epiphany with "The Sacred and Profane"! Pale Scales cover used as bed music is by Exit Music.  Follow us on the socials! Twitter @PumpkinsPodcast Instagram: @smashingpumpkast e-mail: thesmashingpumpkast@gmail.com Please rate and review us!
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    BONUS: Tales from the Arising! Tour

    52:05

    In this Bonus mini-episode, Pumpkast listeners who attended "The Arising! Tour" share their firsthand accounts. Thanks to Adam B., Julie R., David K., Zwee, Art A., Andrew R., Glenn G and Brian for sharing!  Follow us on the socials! Twitter @PumpkinsPodcast Instagram: @smashingpumpkast e-mail: thesmashingpumpkast@gmail.com Please rate and review us!

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