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A Guide to Addressing Your Scope 3 Value Chain Emissions, with Katherine Canoy Ep #45

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In this episode of Smart Energy Voices, host Debra Chanil talks with Katherine Canoy, Director of Energy and Climate Practice at 3Degrees. As more organizations are making ambitious climate commitments, such as net-zero emissions, many companies grapple with the most effective way to address their Scope 3 emissions. Debra and Katherine discussed practical steps that organizations can take to tackle their value chain emissions at SED’s recent Renewable Energy Forum. Listen in on the discussion of this hot topic: reducing Scope 3 emissions.

You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...
  • Katherine’s experience with value chain emissions [03:23]
  • Defining Scope 3 value chain emissions [05:30]
  • The value chain emission picture [07:07]
  • How to address Scope 3 emissions [10:33]
  • The importance of perspective in climate action [14:15]



From intern to industry leader

Katherine’s experience with value chain emissions goes back about fourteen years. She joined the Walmart team in 2007 as a grad school intern. She joined full-time after the company learned that about 90% of its total emissions fell outside its operational boundaries. During her first summer on the job, the team embarked on their first supplier sustainability engagement, holding in-person meetings to address carbon measurement and reductions. There was so much they didn’t know at the time, and the questions were very simplistic. Over the years, after learning so much from their suppliers, consultants, non-profits, and customers, Walmart came to be considered a leader in this space. 

Many of the challenges her team faced in 2007 with measuring and reducing value chain emissions remain today. Now, 14 years later, as a consultant with 3Degrees, Katherine has the opportunity to help other organizations navigate these challenges.

Why is Scope 3 crucial?

Scope 3 is an increasingly important topic in corporate climate commitments. As part of the United Nations 2015 Paris Agreement, keeping climate change at or below 1.5 degrees Celsius was stressed as critically important to avoid grim effects. To meet that limit, global emissions need to decline from 2010 levels by 45% by 2030 and reach net-zero by 2050.

For such a dramatic decline in emissions, it’s necessary not just for governments to make Scope 1 and 2 targets but also for companies to make aggressive Scope 1, 2, and 3 emissions targets. The concept is for companies to hold each other accountable, causing more swift and aggressive action. Therefore, public disclosures and corporate goal frameworks must include Scope 3 emissions.

The value of perspective

Perspective is just as important in climate action as in any other aspect of life. It is easy to assume that suppliers, vendors, and customers are on the same journey - but sitting in a different place in the value chain can mean different pressures, different resources, and different amounts of leverage. Cost is typically top of mind for any new initiatives, including carbon reductions. Companies need to reach the right decision-makers and show them a business case for climate action. It can be overwhelming to reach out in your value chain to gather that information. The good news is that there are a lot more people working on this now than ever before with more tools and more knowledge available.

Resources & People Mentioned Connect with Katherine Canoy

With more than 15 years of experience in the energy, sustainability, and climate industries, Katherine Canoy has expertise in renewable energy procurement, energy efficiency, supply chain climate initiatives, and greenhouse gas measurement and reporting. Her client-focused perspective, gained from more than a decade with Walmart’s energy division and previously as an environmental compliance consultant, guides Katherine in benchmarking, goal setting, and project execution at a global scale. As part of Walmart’s goal to reduce supply chain greenhouse gas emissions by 20 million metric tons, Katherine led teams of internal and external stakeholders and managed greenhouse gas reduction projects in a variety of target industries. To help Walmart achieve its goal to be powered 100% by renewable energy, she awarded 420 MW of renewable energy contracts and managed a portfolio of 154 MW of installed onsite solar. Most recently, Katherine was at C2 Energy Capital, a distributed generation solar developer and investor.

Katherine resides in Durham, North Carolina with her husband and two kids, and spends much of her free time answering all the questions a 4-year old can conjure. She holds an MBA from University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, a MEM in Energy and Policy from Duke University, and a BS from University of Mary Washington.

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Dr. Udo works with students, faculty, and staff on Environmental, Social and Governance (ESG) impact investments for innovative sustainability results, including budget-neutral carbon neutrality and circularity enabled waste minimization and ecological vitality. Dr. Udo is a former CEO with international sustainability and utility processes leadership in academia, state and local governments, and Fortune 500 corporate energy companies. He has significant experience in identifying, analyzing, and incorporating global energy, economic, environmental, and educational trends into both public and private sector governance and infrastructure management.  He is passionate about the convergence of renewable energy resources and storage, electrification of transportation, AI, IoT, and Blockchain in the decarbonization, decentralization, and digitalization of business, academic, and public policy processes. Dr. Udo obtained his Ph.D. in Urban Affairs and Public Policy from the University of Delaware. He has a Master’s degree in Energy and Environmental Policy from the University of Pennsylvania along with a Master’s and BSEE from Howard University. Dr. Udo is an Author with several publications, including global, national, and local, sustainable development. Connect With Smart Energy Decisions https://smartenergydecisions.com Follow them on Facebook Follow them on Twitter Follow them on LinkedIn Subscribe to Smart Energy Voices If you're interested in participating in the next Smart Energy Decision Event, visit smartenergydecisions.com or email our Event Operations Director, Lisa Carroll at lisa@smartenergydecisions.com Audio Production and Show notes by PODCAST FAST TRACK https://www.podcastfasttrack.com
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    Capitalizing on Opportunities in Community Solar, with Miro Sutton, Ep #43

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    In this episode of Smart Energy Voices, host John Failla sits down with Miro Sutton, Managing Director – Renewable Advisory, Strategy and Origination, NRG Energy. This discussion covers the state of community solar, including key trends, benefits, and common misperceptions. You’ll want to listen in to learn about NRG’s unique approach to developing community solar projects.  You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in... Miro Sutton’s background and current role at NRG [02:05] The current state of community solar [05:21] Benefits for community solar customers [11:20] Misperceptions about community solar [13:59] Community solar’s environmental benefits [17:55] NRGs unique approach to community solar projects [20:29] A recent example of a community solar deal [26:34] Why community solar? The most apparent benefit of community solar is economical. Customers can get guaranteed savings without having to risk money. The only risk is the opportunity cost of a project that may or may not have worked out. That guarantee has been an attractive value proposition in the market and has opened many doors in the industry. Another benefit in some areas is the flexibility of assignment. For example, if a customer has a business that they want to close and open another, they can move their contract to the new business. From a politician’s perspective, they can increase the solar on the grid through local projects without making a giant deal. They’re also able to democratize access to solar across multiple types of residential and commercial customers who would otherwise not have access. It checks the RPS box, equity box, and all the boxes that politicians love, making for a successful program from all perspectives. Current trends in community solar Today, savings are guaranteed no matter what the bill credit value is. The customer agreements have gotten a lot friendlier and are moving toward opening up to a lot more people. Financers also are starting to understand that community solar is not like onsite solar or VPPAs. There’s less risk to the individual customer. The customers’ flexibility also translates to flexibility for managing components for the developer.  From the developer’s perspective, there are other trends as well. There’s more focus on LMI (low- or moderate-income) customers. This market brings in new considerations such as qualifying and maintaining the LMI status. The developers also have to deal with increasing grid considerations and interconnections. These factors have been seen in Massachusetts and now Maine. They’re something to consider but are, for the most part, being resolved favorably for the industry.  Streamlining community solar NRGs process is focused on saving their customers time and money. The main focus is on saving the customers time. Part of this is due to programs being fragmented and nuanced. Rather than customers worrying about timing and which provider to choose, NRG takes care of all of those details. They are there to prepare their customer with everything needed to take the plan to their leadership and get it executed. One of the first things NRG does is present a customized contract template to the legal teams on the customer side. After that document is finalized, NRG takes it to the development community with a request for offers. This process saves a significant amount of time for the customer and creates an entirely homogenized experience. Using a model like this, it’s no wonder NRG has been successful in community solar projects across the nation. Resources & People Mentioned Starbucks Deal to Power with Renewable Energy New York state will consolidate billing for community solar customers Connect with Miro Sutton On LinkedIn Miro Sutton leads the Renewable Advisory team at NRG, assisting Fortune 500 customers in their renewable procurement efforts by creating customized renewable and sustainable energy solutions. He has been part of 4+GW of renewable transactions in his career. Miro has 14 years of experience working in the renewable energy industry, including seven years with NRG. Miro has originated over 1.5GW of renewable energy projects for Fortune 100 C&I customers including Ecolab, US Bank, Lowes, and other similar entities. Additionally, Miro has supported C&I customers 400+MW of Community Solar subscription agreements across four states. Miro was involved in the founding of the Carbon War Room, the promotion of PACE financing solutions, the creation of the Cash for Clunkers bill (“CARS” H.R. 1550), and the development of international programs. Connect With Smart Energy Decisions https://smartenergydecisions.com Follow them on Facebook Follow them on Twitter Follow them on LinkedIn Subscribe to Smart Energy Voices If you're interested in participating in the next Smart Energy Decision Event, visit smartenergydecisions.com or email our Event Operations Director, Lisa Carroll at lisa@smartenergydecisions.com Audio Production and Show notes by PODCAST FAST TRACK https://www.podcastfasttrack.com
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    Building a Global Renewable Energy Portfolio, with Zephyr Taylor Ep #42

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    In this episode of Smart Energy Voices, host John Failla is joined by Zephyr Taylor, Global Director of Renewable Energy, Mars Inc. This engaging conversation took place during Smart Energy Decisions’ Renewable Energy Forum. They discussed Mars’ progress against its “Sustainable in a Generation” plan and its ambitious emissions reduction and renewable energy goals. Listen to hear more about Zephyr’s work at Mars and for bonus content exclusive to this episode only! You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in... Zephyr’s background and role at Mars [02:07] Mars’ “Sustainable in a Generation” plan [04:05] Sourcing renewables in global markets [08:26] The biggest challenge in a global portfolio [13:42] What’s next for Mars Inc? [16:32] Zephyr’s journey to renewables [21:45] Zephyr’s proudest accomplishment [28:36] What would Zephyr like for the future? [33:10] Sustainable in a Generation Mars’ “Sustainable in a Generation” plan encompasses two key categories: a healthy planet and healthy people. As a renewable energy commercial head, Zephyr supports the healthy planet/ environmental side of the equation. The first goal for the company’s sustainability initiative is decarbonization. Their internal goal is 67% by 2050 of all of their emissions, and, 100% of Scope 1 and 2 emissions by 2040. Renewable energy is the strategy Mars is using to address most of their Scope 1 and 2 emissions, pursuing these deals because most of their direct emissions come from energy usage. Mars’ renewable energy targets include their thermal usage, principally natural gas burned for industrial processes in gas boilers at their factories. This problem is a fundamentally different challenge than solving renewable electricity needs from a commercial and technological perspective. That energy subsector is in a much earlier stage, with pilot projects such as hydrogen and anaerobic digesters. Because of its unique challenge, renewable thermal will become an increasingly disproportionate part of Zephyr’s day. He looks forward to being part of Mars’ finding the most viable commercial models to replace fossil gas and integrate into their global portfolio. Global renewable energy deals The U.S. was Mars’ first market to make a major power purchase agreement. In 2015, that came in the form of a large wind farm in Texas that covered 100% of Mars’ electricity needs in the country. That set in motion the global perspective of addressing renewable energy needs through large, offsite deals. In countries where offsite deals aren’t available, Mars looks for alternative deal structuring options such as onsite, behind the meter, and shorter-term compilations to achieve as much renewable energy coverage as possible. There are some commonalities in the approach to evaluating different markets and renewable energy deal structures - but to a large degree, that’s where the commonality ends. Understanding individual markets Energy and renewables are some of the most hyper-localized markets and sectors for any commodity. The way energy is bought and sold, key market participants, the counterparties to any deal, and the regulatory environment differ drastically between markets, especially in less regulated markets. The intriguing aspect is that there can be situations where there are markets with a developed renewable energy sector from some perspectives. However, the regulatory, commercial, and contracting environments are such that you can’t easily contract bilaterally. The processes from one market aren’t going to transpose smoothly into another. Every individual market requires a unique approach to do the market assessment and to understand the market risk and design to get the best deal for your company. Resources & People Mentioned Mars' Sustainability Plan Renewable Energy Forum - Summer 2021 Renewable Thermal Collaborative Connect with Zephyr Taylor On LinkedIn As the Global Commercial Director and Category Lead for Renewable Energy, Zephyr oversees Mars’ renewable energy sourcing throughout the world – including market assessment, supplier engagement, deal structuring and negotiation, and key internal stakeholder management alongside team oversight.  Zephyr has led the development and execution of strategic renewable energy initiatives for the public and private sectors globally. His expertise includes policy and regulation, project development and transaction structuring, and thought leadership on energy market reform and stakeholder mobilization. Zephyr holds an MBA and a Master of Environmental Management from Yale University. He received his undergraduate degree with Highest Honors in Economics from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Connect With Smart Energy Decisions https://smartenergydecisions.com Follow them on Facebook Follow them on Twitter Follow them on LinkedIn Subscribe to Smart Energy Voices If you're interested in participating in the next Smart Energy Decision Event, visit smartenergydecisions.com or email our Event Operations Director Lisa Carroll at lisa@smartenergydecisions.com Audio Production and Show notes by PODCAST FAST TRACK https://www.podcastfasttrack.com
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    More Than Just Solar: The Evolving Clean Energy Needs of Large Power Users, with Raphael Declercq Ep #41

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    In this episode of Smart Energy Voices, produced in partnership with EDF Renewables, host John Failla is joined by Raphael Declercq, Executive Vice President, Distributed Solutions & Strategy at EDF Renewables North America. Raphael has been working with EDF for 12 years, with a background in consulting and banking. Since mid-2010, his role has been to build an offering for C&I customers and other entities looking for distributed solutions. Listen as they discuss the changing needs of large electric power users and how EDF is evolving in response to those needs. You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in... EDF’s global footprint [03:37] The evolving needs of recent times [08:44] How is EDF responding to current needs? [13:21] Powerflex’s solar component [18:53] Storage’s role in Powerflex [22:29] EV charging in the Powerflex model [28:04] The essential software providing solutions [33:00] Microgrid projects [38:12] How can we be successful in the future? [40:50] EDF’s worldwide scope EDF Renewables is one of the largest producers of electricity globally, operating the largest transmission and distribution networks in Europe. As a developer and operator of renewable projects, EDF is an integrated energy player and is listed on the Paris Stock Exchange. Present in 22 countries, EDF is growing in North America, starting with wind and diversifying in solar and storage. They’ve been very active in helping the US transform the energy industry by providing those projects. Historically the company mainly provided those projects to load-serving entities and utilities in particular. But in 2010, they started to see demand come directly from end-users as those entities were looking for solutions closer to home. Distributed energy via Powerflex EDF has been working on storage for years, with 40-megawatt hours that are in construction or already operating, primarily in California. Even as they are seeing an increased relevance for this technology, a new question has come up recently. Customers who already have a meter system for solar are asking why they should bother adding more investment for storage.  The answer is that the regulations are going to evolve. The direction the regulators are going to take will be to encourage storage, increasing the effectiveness of solar. C&I customers are maturing in their approach to solve self-imposed challenges on the ESG side. EDF is gathering all the distributed energy that is dedicated to C&I customers onsite under the Powerflex brand. Powerflex provides a one-stop shop for solar, storage, and smart EV charging needs. EDF has developed an energy management system (EMS) that orchestrates those different pieces, allowing customers to maximize their savings while meeting their ESG goals.  Coordinating Technologies EDF has created a unique platform that allows customers to pick from multiple models and plug them into a common core. These options will enable customers to maximize savings and the consumption of solar with different assets. The integrated EMS that EDF has invested in allows various assets to be coordinated. It maximizes the availability of kilowatts in the system without going through expensive, lengthy upgrades of transformers and equipment. It also allows EV owners to plug in, enter information into an app, and schedule energy consumption in a way that avoids creating energy peaks. That avoidance of peaks is essential for the energy bill and the grid. The same software can maximize how batteries are used to prevent peaks due to the profile of solar. Projecting further in the decade, having hundreds of assets operating in a coordinated way will allow grid operators to be served with more flexible grid services.  Resources & People Mentioned EDF Renewables Powering Progress | Sustainable Energy in North America Exxon: At least 2 board members lose seats in fight over climate change PowerFlex: Home Connect with Raphael Declercq On LinkedIn Raphael leads the Distributed Solutions business unit of EDF Renewables North America and works with the President & Chief Executive Officer to craft and implement the Strategy of EDF Renewables. Raphael has responsibility over the teams and legal entities conducting activities at the distribution level. Through a combination of acquisitions and internal growth, Raphael had a leading role in building the commercial solar, storage, and smart Electric Vehicle charging business of EDF Renewables. He now oversees the operations of this fast-growing part of our business. In his strategy role, he has a focus on identifying growth opportunities for EDF Renewables businesses in North America. Prior to transferring to North America in 2011, Raphael worked for EDF Renouvelables in Paris as Deputy Executive Advisor. In North America, Raphael initially focused on divestitures and merger & acquisitions. Earlier in his career, Raphael was a strategy consultant at McKinsey & Company, where he primarily focused on the energy and heavy industry sectors. Raphael holds Masters in Management from HEC Paris business school and CEMS (Community of European Management Schools). Connect With Smart Energy Decisions https://smartenergydecisions.com Follow them on Facebook Follow them on Twitter Follow them on LinkedIn Subscribe to Smart Energy Voices If you're interested in participating in the next Smart Energy Decision Event, visit smartenergydecisions.com or email our Event Operations Director, Lisa Carroll at lisa@smartenergydecisions.com Audio Production and Show notes by PODCAST FAST TRACK https://www.podcastfasttrack.com
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    The Energy Switch, with Peter Kelly-Detwiler Ep # 40

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    In this episode of Smart Energy Voices, host John Failla is joined by his friend and colleague Peter Kelly-Detwiler, founder of NorthBridge Energy Partners. Peter is an active faculty member of Smart Energy Decisions and has decades of experience in the energy industry. Join as John and Peter discuss Peter’s new book: The Energy Switch. You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in... Who is Peter Kelly-Detwiler? [02:19] Peter’s motivation for writing his book [03:53] Changing the face of the grid [09:14] Enabling the grid change [17:08] Coordinating the state and federal levels [23:43] Adoptable pricing models [27:08] Is a 100% carbon-free grid possible? [31:08] Peter’s passion for clean energy [39:54] The hopeful impact of The Energy Switch [47:39] The journey to “The Energy Switch” Peter Kelly-Detwiler has been in the electric industry for 30 years. Starting as a consultant for the Cree Indians, he next spent a few years in Chile, then came back to the USA and worked in competitive retail energy markets. From there, he moved into starting up Constellation Energy, where they paid large customers not to use energy during periods of peak demand. In 2012, Peter took severance from Epsilon/Constellation and began his modern life. He was curious to figure out how all the aspects of the grid were going to start working together. In his hunt for information, he wrote hundreds of Forbes articles, which led him to begin working with SED. Eventually, Peter felt as though he had written enough articles that he had a good picture of the industry. During his research, he had tried to find a single source, document, or conversation that would help him put all his thoughts together, but he couldn’t find what he was seeking. So he decided to create this resource himself, framing and contextualizing concepts to be understandable to readers. Helping people understand clean energy While writing, Peter tried to maintain the perspective of what it was like not to know what he had learned. Thinking in this way, he could make technically complex information accessible to everyone. By attaching the concepts to people, Peter was able to use stories to onramp the nuances and complexities of whatever space they inhabited.  In his book, Peter lists four stages that are necessary for grid change. The first step is changing the grid to be able to manage supply and demand instantaneously. Second, many renewables have to be introduced into the system. The third step is changing the negative covariance. Fourth is bringing in longer-duration resources. Creating these resources is what California is doing with their new RFPs, and other companies are doing this with liquid air. Ultimately these changes will get companies to about 70-80%. Part of the struggle of the fourth step is what to do from a seasonal perspective. Storage is needed to move vast amounts of power, which is likely a role for hydrogen. Is a 100% carbon-free grid possible? Due to long-duration storage issues, the most significant gap in progress is in the last 25%. While possible conceptually, the solution is yet to be found, and the focus will need to shift to new technologies. As the path is navigated, new ideas will surface that will bridge the last gap.  One example of the direction of change is the increasing electric vehicle sales. In the future, gigawatt-hours or terawatt-hours of energy are expected to be driving around on wheels. However, these batteries do nothing while the vehicles aren’t being used. Companies like Volkswagen say they will make all of their vehicles bidirectional by next year to create more use for these batteries. Ford’s F150 Lightning will be capable of plugging into homes and providing backup power in the event of outages. Bringing that power back to the grid will create a product people want while helping the energy transition. Resources & People Mentioned The Energy Switch GE Minds + Machines IEA Net-Zero by 2050 Be one of the first 10 people to email john@smartenergydecisions.com requesting a copy of The Energy Switch and we will send you a signed copy! Connect with Peter Kelly-Detwiler Peter Kelly-Detwiler on LinkedIn Peter Kelly-Detwiler - Smart Energy Decisions’ Director of Educational Programming and Principal of NorthBridge Energy Partners - has 30 years of experience in the electric energy arena, with much of his career in competitive power markets. He’s currently a leading consultant in the electric industry, providing strategic advice to clients and investors, helping them to navigate the rapid evolution of the electric power grid. Mr. Kelly-Detwiler offers numerous keynotes and workshops on a wide range of topics. He has also written widely on energy issues for Forbes.com and GE, with over 300 articles to his credit. His book on the transformation of electric power markets - “The Energy Switch” - will be published by Prometheus Books in June of 2021.  Connect With Smart Energy Decisions https://smartenergydecisions.com Follow them on Facebook Follow them on Twitter Follow them on LinkedIn

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