Rich Mom Poor Mom | A Substack Podcast on parenting + motherhood

Job Anxiety, Holiday Travel, and Finding Livable Income in a Tough EconomyIn this Rich Mom Poor Mom “Get At How You Live” episode, hosts Precious, a St. Louis real estate professional, and Jamelle, a Harvard PhD in tech in Atlanta, respond to three listener letters. They discuss a mom laid off from a financial analyst role who is serving, bartending, DoorDashing, and cashing out savings, sharing motivation strategies like mindset shifts, intentional focus, accountability, and evaluating career choices by passion, skill, and income potential amid widespread layoffs and job market anxiety. They advise a higher income couple with a toddler and newborn on holiday travel, hosting, setting boundaries, and balancing responsibility after moving away from family. They also address a single mom in Dallas earning $35,000 seeking more income, warning about social media claims, emphasizing strengths, exploring nanny work and training programs, and adding structure to gig work.00:00 Robot Delivery Guilt00:37 Meet the Hosts02:34 Letter One Layoff Spiral04:23 Mindset and Vision12:22 Risk and Self Worth15:15 Three Part Career Test18:28 Letter Two Holiday Travel20:41 Grace for Family Logistics27:40 Type B Travel Philosophy29:41 Who Moved Away34:05 Hosting The Holidays35:20 Guest Room Comforts36:09 Travel Stress Talk36:47 Single Mom Money Letter38:17 Income Streams Reality Check42:01 Define A Livable Wage44:11 Lower Costs And Aid45:28 Nanny Path To More54:29 Training And Community Options56:34 Structure Beats Hustle01:03:37 Play To Strengths Wrap01:05:55 Final Thanks And Outro This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jamellewd.substack.com

Rich Mom Poor Mom on Emma Grede: Success, Motherhood, Remote Work, and Taking FeedbackOn Rich Mom Poor Mom, Precious and Jamelle discuss Emma Grede, a $400 million net worth entrepreneur behind SKIMS and Good American, and react to her book Start With Yourself and viral interviews. They frame her message as explaining how to succeed within the current system rather than offering a revolution, and argue that women often miss unspoken rules because people avoid giving honest feedback, creating what Grede calls “lying to women.” They cover five points: Grede being a “max three-hour mom” with significant paid support, her claim that remote work can limit women’s career advancement due to reduced visibility, the need for women to talk openly about money and deal terms, the “employee mindset” of seeking a boss even when leading, and the importance of calibration through feedback and corrective action. They invite listener reactions and recommend the book. [email protected]:00 Who Is Emma Grede01:14 Meet The Hosts02:30 Survival Versus Resistance07:20 Five Points Overview08:36 Max Three Hour Mom16:08 Help And Nannies Context17:39 Peep Game For Minorities23:15 Remote Work Career Killer30:33 Flexibility Privilege Debate34:03 Work From Home Unseriousness39:25 Back To Emma Grede Point41:20 Childcare Over Remote Work42:00 AI Threat To Desk Jobs43:26 Women Talking Money51:40 Stop Burying The Numbers54:38 Employee Mindset Trap01:03:21 Rich Husband Reality Check01:09:14 Calibration Through Feedback01:14:09 Taking And Filtering Advice01:21:04 Wrap Up And Next Steps This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jamellewd.substack.com

Millennial Parenting Pressure, Social Media, and Keeping Up With the JonesesIn this episode of “Rich Mom, Poor Mom,” Precious (a St. Louis real estate professional) and Jamel (a Harvard PhD working in tech in Atlanta) discuss how social pressure shapes modern parenting, especially for millennials who feel pushed to be “perfect” so their kids won’t need therapy. They compare in-person judgment and social-media-driven standards, citing surveys on impulse buying, debt, buy-now-pay-later, and research linking rising child costs to competitive parenting. They share personal stories about feeling pressured by curated parenting content (toddlers reading, breastfeeding “overproduction,” fitness) and luxury baby gear, including Jamel’s near-purchase of a pricey Doona-style stroller due to both function and status. Precious recounts a stressful first chaperone field trip and concerns about kids’ peer influences. They answer a listener letter from an Atlanta mom earning $35K about graduation-party pressure, emphasizing values, community support, and limiting social media.00:00 Millennial Parenting Pressure00:55 Show Intro And Hosts01:13 Judgment In Public Parenting02:59 Online Parenting Critique03:50 Values Behind Judgment05:50 Kids And Money Beliefs08:45 Therapy Generation Anxiety12:19 Keeping Up Data Dive15:17 Influencers Raise The Bar19:23 Breastfeeding Content Pressure24:42 Algorithm And Inadequacy26:01 Story Time Luxury Strollers28:31 Doona Temptation And Resale37:05 Atlanta Status Pressure40:00 Precious Field Trip Chaperone41:23 Late Chaperone Panic42:37 Lunch Prep Pressure45:00 Chick-fil-A Detour46:41 Parking and Sprinting48:06 Two Kids Only48:46 Talkative Kid Trauma50:53 Social Media Mom Standards53:56 Field Trip Aftermath55:15 Grace for Parents56:38 Kids Need Responsibilities01:00:33 Listener Letter Soft Life01:02:46 Values Over Aesthetics01:12:09 Digital Health Boundaries01:15:11 Gratitude and Wrap UpSubscribe to the podcast page and send us an email at [email protected] to join the conversation! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jamellewd.substack.com

Building (and Losing) the Village: Friendship, Motherhood, and ConflictIn this “Rich Mom, Poor Mom” part-two episode, hosts Precious (a St. Louis real estate professional) and Jamelle (a Harvard PhD in tech in Atlanta) discuss a listener letter from Kaya, a Boston-area mom earning $50,000, who regrets how she handled a friendship breakup with a longtime friend who became a young mother. They debate whether people are taught to be “villagers,” arguing that village support requires inconvenience and sustained, imbalanced giving, which clashes with modern convenience culture. They connect weak village ties to ghosting, blocking, and avoidance of conflict, contrasting it with earlier norms of direct confrontation and moving on. They emphasize grace for new parents for at least the first couple years, discourage airing grievances during pregnancy or early postpartum, and suggest persistent check-ins and clearer, cordial friendship transitions rather than abrupt cutoffs.00:00 Texting Through Conflict00:10 Old School Fight Rules00:52 Meet the Hosts01:22 Kaya’s Friendship Breakup03:37 Learning to Be a Villager08:04 Convenience Kills Community12:46 When Nobody Shows Up18:05 Weddings and Village Signals23:32 Different Life Phases30:33 Healthy Friendship Breakups34:09 Calling It Early in Love37:09 Friendship Breakup Voice Note39:46 Was It Really Weird41:04 Classy Shade And Gossip42:28 Slow Fade Versus Direct45:23 Blocking And Conflict Avoidance48:18 Old School Conflict Lessons52:26 Fight For Your Friendships01:01:15 Showing Up For New Parents01:07:21 Motherhood Is Sacred01:11:34 Listener Segment Wrap UpPlease comment what you think!Subscribe to the podcast page and send us an email at [email protected] to join the conversation! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jamellewd.substack.com

Precious and Jamelle of “Rich Mom, Poor Mom” discuss how parenthood reshapes friendship, including shyness, rejection sensitivity, and the pressure to “curate” social time instead of experiencing everyday life together. Jamelle argues many women avoid initiating or committing to friendships and grieves the loneliness of mismatched effort, while Precious describes withdrawing postpartum out of anxiety and protectiveness, then struggling to reconnect. They reference data on parental loneliness, selectivity in friendships, and how parents’ social conflict can affect children. Jamelle shares a friendship breakup with a successful mom whose classist comments and mean-girl behavior escalated into public boundary violations and social exclusion. Both emphasize modeling consistent “showing up” for kids and value low-pressure, honest connection like FaceTiming or bringing kids over without entertaining.00:00 Real Life Hangouts01:16 Parent Friendship Fears05:32 Rejection And Overthinking07:35 Friendship Feels Like Dating14:22 Raising The Friendship Bar18:59 Loneliness By The Numbers20:14 Modeling Social Skills25:53 Showing Up For Friends30:34 Storytime Friendship Breakup42:39 Mean Girl Mom Group Fallout44:24 Nerdy Weirdo Smear45:23 Mean Girl Hierarchies51:58 Rich Mom Poor Mom Story54:06 Postpartum Boundaries Fallout59:48 Experience Life Together01:08:56 Show Up Friendship Test01:13:35 Low Maintenance Myth01:16:08 Locked In Love Stories01:23:05 Gratitude and GoodbyePlease comment what you think!Subscribe to the podcast page and send us an email at [email protected] to join the conversation! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jamellewd.substack.com

Navigating Parenthood: Financial and Emotional Considerations for a Second ChildIn this episode of 'Rich Mom, Poor Mom,' hosts Precious and Jamelle delve into Chloe's heartfelt dilemma of whether to try for a second baby amidst financial and emotional concerns. Chloe and her husband, both scientists earning a combined $200,000, are worried that another child would strain their finances and mental health. Precious and Jamelle share personal stories, practical advice, and community strategies to manage the cost of childcare, advocating for affordable solutions while emphasizing the enriching long-term benefits of expanding the family. The episode also explores overcoming the anxiety of added responsibilities and the resilience required to manage a larger family.Comment and subscribe on substack https://jamellewd.substack.com/s/rich-mom-poor-mom-podcastand send us an email at [email protected] to join the conversation!00:00 The Big Question: Should We Have Another Baby?00:48 Introducing Rich Mom, Poor Mom01:11 Can We Afford Another Child?01:31 Personal Reflections on Having More Kids03:40 The Emotional and Evolutionary Aspects of Parenthood08:35 Financial Realities of Childcare12:34 Story Time: Rich Mom, Poor Mom Experiences15:54 Overthinking Parenthood Decisions17:22 The Long-Term Perspective on Having Kids21:53 PhD and Pregnancy: A Personal Story25:17 The Stress of Job Hunting and Pregnancy26:16 Defending the Thesis While Pregnant27:16 Introducing the Get It How You Live Segment27:34 Chloe's Dilemma: To Have Another Baby or Not?31:04 Affordable Childcare Solutions45:50 Exploring Government Assistance Programs48:21 Gratitude and Closing Remarks This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jamellewd.substack.com

not financial advice, just real conversation from real people's experience.In this episode of 'Rich Mom, Poor Mom,' hosts Precious and Jamelle dive into the topic of 401(k)s and retirement planning. They address the common feelings of shame and guilt many Americans experience due to being behind on retirement savings. The hosts discuss practical steps for understanding and managing 401(k) accounts, including contributions and employer matches. They share a heartfelt letter from Kendra, a listener who took an early retirement and has faced financial struggles. The episode emphasizes the importance of starting retirement savings early, navigating career paths, and the psychological aspects of financial planning. Jamelle and Precious also offer gratitude and practical advice for those feeling overwhelmed by the complexities of retirement accounts.00:00 Introduction and Common Financial Struggles00:34 Meet the Hosts: Precious and Jamelle00:53 Listener Appreciation and Call to Action02:05 Understanding 401(k) Basics04:53 Listener Letter: Kendra's Story11:14 Planning for Retirement: Key Considerations19:46 Employer Matching and Personal Contributions27:15 Rolling Over Your 401k: Simplifying the Process27:56 Understanding the Role of Different Banks28:32 Corporate Support for Financial Questions29:11 The Intimidation Factor of Financial Knowledge30:04 The Reality of YouTube Finance Experts30:38 Psychological Barriers to Financial Planning32:47 Common Confusions About 401k and IRA Transfers36:39 The Importance of Pre-Tax Contributions38:27 Penalties and Taxes on Early Withdrawals42:35 Comparing Entrepreneurship and Corporate Benefits47:47 Seeking Professional Financial Advice51:04 Gratitude and Final ThoughtsSubscribe to the podcast page, comment and send us an email at [email protected] to join the conversation! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jamellewd.substack.com

Struggles and Strategies: Navigating Family FinancesIn this episode of 'Rich Mom, Poor Mom,' hosts Precious, a real estate professional, and Jamelle, a Harvard PhD working in tech, delve into the complexities of saving money amidst life's unpredictable challenges. The discussion kicks off with data on American savings habits, highlighting financial insecurities many face. They share personal anecdotes, including Precious's story of rediscovering forgotten savings and learning to stretch money during tough times, and Jamelle's experience of the financial strain of supporting a family member in need. This episode also addresses listener Emily from Atlanta, who earns a substantial income yet feels financially unstable due to high childcare costs and intentional luxury spending. The hosts weigh in on her situation and share their insights on balancing financial responsibilities with personal enjoyment. The episode wraps up with gratitude reflections and a call for listeners to share their experiences and insights for the 'Get It How You Live' segment.email: [email protected] on substack: https://jamellewd.substack.com/s/rich-mom-poor-mom-podcast00:00 Introduction and Intentions00:19 Meet the Hosts00:44 The Savings Struggle01:26 Shocking Savings Statistics02:54 Parenting and Financial Sacrifices03:57 Story Time: Rich Mom, Poor Mom Moments08:55 Personal Financial Lessons11:07 Financial Anxiety and Planning22:40 Listener's Letter: Balancing Quality and Savings26:29 Living Responsibly on a High Income28:25 Budgeting for Enjoyment29:40 Building Generational Wealth31:02 The Value of Intentional Spending34:20 Balancing Free Will and Savings Goals45:51 The Importance of Accountability51:51 Gratitude and Closing Thoughts This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jamellewd.substack.com

Navigating Motherhood and Marriage: The Realities of the Newborn StageIn this episode of 'Rich Mom, Poor Mom,' hosts Precious and Jamelle discuss the challenges of the newborn stage from their unique perspectives. They delve into the sleep deprivation and emotional stress that comes with caring for a newborn, citing statistics on postpartum depression and marital distress. Both hosts share personal stories: Precious recounts a difficult period during her newborn's stage while grieving her mother's loss, and Jamelle describes a pivotal moment in her marriage when she realized the need for balance and understanding in her relationship. The episode also features listener letters seeking advice on balancing high-stress careers and newborn care, emphasizing the importance of setting realistic expectations and supporting each other through different phases of marriage and parenting.email [email protected] to join the conversation.00:00 The Reality of Parenthood: You Can't Have It All00:21 Introducing Rich Mom, Poor Mom00:40 The Newborn Stage: A Bootcamp for Parents01:38 The Toll of Sleep Deprivation and Postpartum Challenges02:49 The Blame Game and Marital Strain06:10 Story Time: A Pivotal Moment in Marriage18:33 Precious' Story: Grief and Postpartum Struggles22:19 A Night of Chaos: Baby Falls from Bed23:34 Handling the Aftermath: Parenting Challenges25:38 Listener Letters: Balancing Career and Family30:03 Advice for New Parents: Managing Expectations33:36 Listener Letters: Navigating Newborn Sleep Deprivation45:05 Gratitude and Closing Remarks This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jamellewd.substack.com

Lending Money to Family and Friends: Boundaries and Cultural DifferencesIn this episode of 'Rich Mom, Poor Mom,' Precious, a real estate professional from St. Louis, and Jamelle, a Harvard PhD working in tech from Atlanta, discuss the challenges of lending money to family and friends. They explore the emotional and financial impact of such decisions and share personal anecdotes. They also address cultural expectations, particularly in immigrant families, where sending money back home is common. The episode includes listener letters seeking advice on setting boundaries with financially dependent loved ones, and the hosts provide insights and strategies for handling these difficult situations. The show concludes with a gratitude segment and a call for listeners to share their own experiences.00:00 Introduction and Personal Anecdote00:31 Meet the Hosts: Precious and Jamelle00:55 The Dilemma of Lending Money to Family and Friends06:23 Cultural Considerations and Statistics on Lending21:36 Story Time: Personal Experiences with Lending32:12 The Unexpected $2034:21 Cultural Perspectives on Borrowing Money37:38 Family Dynamics and Financial Support40:01 Listener Letters: Financial Boundaries55:21 Advice for Gigi: Setting Financial Boundaries with Friends01:06:23 Gratitude and Closing Remarks This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jamellewd.substack.com