The End of the Gaza War? - with Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal

A Call at 4am by Amit Segal: amazon.com/Call-AM-Thirteen-Ministers-Decisions/dp/B0F316MDXVRachel Goldberg-Polin's speech on Oct 11th, 2025 - https://youtu.be/VyTIiBz7W20?si=SjSnGq_glvPnXLUo Steve Witkoff’s, Jared Kushner’s, and Ivanka Trump’s speeches at Hostage Square: mako.co.il/news-israel/2025_q4/Article-5da0684b793d991027.htmSubscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.orgGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/giftsSubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastCheck out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: https://x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: Ark Media Contributor Amit Segal released a new book titled A Call at 4am, in which he dives into Israel’s thirteen prime ministers and the most critical moments that shaped Israeli history. Dan sat down with Amit to discuss some of the book’s most dramatic moments, from Golda Meir’s sleepless nights before the Yom Kippur War to Amit’s personal conversation with Benjamin Netanyahu shortly after the October 7 attack.CREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Support Birthright Israel: https://birthrightisrael.foundation/callmebackSubscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.orgGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/giftsSubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastCheck out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: https://x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: Israel and Hamas have agreed to the first phase of President Trump’s plan to end the Gaza war which requires the release of all remaining living hostages within 72 hours. Israelis have responded with an overwhelming outpour of emotion. But what do we really know about the plan and its implications for the future of the region? Ark Media contributors Amit Segal and Nadav Eyal join Dan to unpack what we know and what we don’t at this historical juncture. 00:00 Introduction 04:40 The emotional climate in Israel08:32 Details of the ceasefire deal and hostage release12:21 The limits of the deal14:29 Trump’s goals of hostage returns and regional peace18:49 U.S.-Israeli partnership under Trump23:24 External pressure on Hamas in the lead-up to the deal24:45 How Hamas’ is narrating the outcome of the war26:33 Regional actors’ stakes and goals: Qatar, Turkey, Egypt30:08 What this means for Israel’s internal politics38:47 Israeli public’s thirst for reform 43:21 Jewish people and the Israeli-Diaspora relationship CREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.orgGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/giftsA Call at 4am by Amit Segal: amazon.com/Call-AM-Thirteen-Ministers-Decisions/dp/B0F316MDXVSubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastCheck out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: https://x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: Israel and Hamas have reached an agreement tonight to end the Gaza war based on the outline of President Trump’s plan. The agreement includes the imminent release of all remaining living hostages in Gaza in exchange for hundreds of Palestinian prisoners. In an emergency pod, Ark Media Correspondent Nadav Eyal joins Dan to share his initial impressions of the first phase of the deal, what this means for the short and long term balance of power in the region, and whether Hamas gets to claim this as a victory.CREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Please follow this link to support our sponsor, UJA Federation of New York: https://bit.ly/donate-to-uja Making Sense with Sam Harris: samharris.org/podcastsSubscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.orgGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/giftsWatch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastCheck out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrASubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: https://x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: This Tuesday will mark the two-year anniversary of the October 7 massacre, in which thousands of Hamas terrorists infiltrated Southern Israel, slaughtering over 1,400 Israelis and taking more than 250 hostage. It was the deadliest day for Jews since the Holocaust. Since then, we’ve witnessed several fronts of war against Israel, a terrifying rise in global antisemitism, and an effort to isolate Israel diplomatically, culturally, and economically, and much more. To reflect on some of the major events and the cultural currents that have swept the world since October 7, 2023, Dan sat down with Sam Harris for a conversation being released as a simulcast both on Call me Back as well as Sam’s podcast, Making Sense. Sam is a philosopher, neuroscientist, author, and public intellectual. He focuses on topics of rationality, religion, politics, and ethics, and has been a fierce critic of the rise in radical, fundamentalist islam. CREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe here to For Heaven’s Sake: lnk.to/ZtetEFWatch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastArk Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorgToday’s Episode: This year’s Yom Kippur landed right on our production schedule, so we did not tape a Call me Back episode. It’s a good opportunity to share with you the most recent episode of For Heaven’s Sake, a collaboration of Ark Media with our partners at the Shalom Hartman Institute -  Yossi Klein Halevi and Donniel Hartmen. Just before Yom Kippur, on Wednesday, our team at Ark Media published an episode of For Heaven’s Sake, which is an Ark Media podcast, co-hosted by Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi of the Shalom Hartman Institute. In this episode, titled “A New Era?”, Donniel and Yossi reflected on President Trump’s plan for the end of the Gaza War. We found the episode particularly insightful and emblematic of the types of profound conversations Donniel and Yossi typically have on For Heaven’s Sake, so we decided to release it on the Call me Back feed as well.  

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.orgGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/giftsSubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastCheck out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: https://x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: President Trump met with Netanyahu in the White House on Monday to discuss the plan to end the Gaza war. The proposal includes the immediate and unconditional return of all remaining hostages and the complete demilitarization of the strip. Nadav Eyal joins Dan to evaluate the feasibility of the plan, whether Netanyahu will be able to sell it to his government, and what we can realistically expect to see next.CREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.orgGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/giftsSubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastCheck out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: https://x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: On Monday, September 29, President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu are set to meet at the White House. Because of this potentially game-changing meeting, we decided to postpone our usual Monday episode by a day so that we can delve into all that’s revealed (or not) tomorrow in Washington D.C. Instead we’re releasing a brief news-update to keep listeners up-to-date on the Israel-related news that’s unfolded over the past few days. Be sure to catch the next Call me Back episode, which we’ll tape shortly after Monday’s White House meeting. CREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.orgGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/giftsSubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastCheck out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: https://x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: Over the past few days, France, the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, and several other countries formally recognized a Palestinian State at the United Nations General Assembly in New York. The practical implications of this “diplomatic wave” are yet to be seen, but the Israeli Government is taking the move seriously, as many interpret Palestinian recognition as a reward for Hamas’ terrorism. Meanwhile, the IDF continues its operations in Gaza City. To discuss the implications of recognizing Palestinian statehood and the evolving situation in Gaza, Dan was joined by Ark Media contributors Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal. CREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Subscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.orgGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/giftsWatch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastSubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: The United Nations is set to recognize a Palestinian state on Monday. But what does that actually mean? What kind of legal power will this recognition hold? And will Hamas see it as a victory, cementing Oct. 7 as Palestinian independence day? Tal Becker, vice president of Hartman Institute in Jerusalem and a multi-decade veteran of Israeli peace process teams, joins Dan to discuss the dangers of performative diplomacy and the moral hazard of an unconditional recognition of Palestinian statehood. Tal was previously a diplomatic advisor to numerous Israeli governments, and a legal advisor to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and to the IDF. CREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

To support American Friends of Israel Navy SEALS: AFINS.us/warriorcareSubscribe to Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.orgGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: inside.arkmedia.org/giftsSubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: arkmedia.org/amitsegal/Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastCheck out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/rbGlvMFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact: [email protected] contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: On Monday night, the IDF began its highly anticipated incursion into Gaza City, which has been largely untouched by Israel until recent days. The IDF announced that 40% of Gaza City’s roughly one million people have already evacuated. Meanwhile, the Hostages and Missing Families Forum declared a “state of emergency” amid fears that Israel’s invasion of Gaza City jeopardizes the remaining 48 hostages. On today’s episode, we are joined by Ark Media Contributors Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal to discuss this major development. What does the IDF’s incursion into Gaza City mean for the future of the war, the fate of the hostages, and Israel’s global standing?(00:00) Introduction(04:44) American Friends of Israel Navy Seals(07:11) What are Israel’s operational goals?(12:39) What is the plan?(15:45) Why the operation is so controversial(21:08) Israeli public opinion and the chances for a deal(30:23) Has the Israeli government given up on the hostages?(32:09) Fallout from the Doha operation(39:16) Israel’s standing in the region(43:50) What happens now?CREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer