On The Trail

We all have to learn how to deal with suffering at some level. Those who learn to deal with it well become mature. Let’s talk about it. In this episode, we discuss what it means to endure hardship well, using Jesus Christ as a model and walking through the R.A.R.E. habits as a guide to maturity. What does leadership look like at the five developmental stages of emotional maturity and what are some practical ways we can cultivate healthy workplace relationships and help people recover from stress? The goal of this series is to equip you to live and lead with more emotional intelligence and resilience on your walk with God.The book Rare Leadership by Marcus Warner & Jim Wilder combines theology, brain science, and decades of counseling and consulting experience to equip you to cultivate maturity in yourself and others, develop strong group identity, keep relationships bigger than problems, and more! Over the course of this series, we'll be unpacking the four habits of a rare leader: Remain relational. Act like yourself. Return to joy. Endure hardship well.Check out the free discussion guide for this book in the description links.  📕 GET THE BOOK: https://deeperwalk.com/product/rare-leadership-book/🎁 DIY BOOK CLUB KIT: https://tinyurl.com/OTTDIY-RARE💚 GROW CONFERENCE: https://deeperwalk.com/product/grow-conference-2027/💝 PAY IT FORWARD: https://deeperwalk.com/donate/🧠 LIFE MODEL WORKS (JIM WILDER): https://lifemodelworks.org/🙏 PRAYER MINISTRY REFERRALS: https://deeperwalk.com/ministry-referrals/📸 Follow OTT on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/onthetrail_podcast⚔️ IDENTITY COURSE: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/identity-course/ Go Deeper:🎧 For more on processing suffering, see S2E30: "Pain Processing Pathway (Series Compilation)" - https://deeperwalk.com/podcast/30-pain-processing-pathway-series-compilation/Thank you for joining us – father-daughter duo Marcus Warner and Stephanie Warner – on the trail to a deeper walk with God!  Chapters -00:00 A Favorite Chapter & A Free Event4:27 Jesus: The Ultimate Model of Suffering Well11:11 Capacity & Stress Endurance12:15 Stage of Life Maturity Levels14:58 Child-Level Maturity17:52 Adult-Level Maturity19:34 Parent-Level Maturity20:30 Elder-Level Maturity21:47 Leadership Applications23:49 Mature Leadership Practices

What is the most important habit for a leader to cultivate?God gave us emotions to protect us, not to control us. But when we get stuck in a negative emotion, it's hard to function from our true identity. For anyone, but especially for leaders, we need to understand how to help ourselves and those around us recover from upsetting emotions. In this episode, we discuss the difference and the relationship between freedom and maturity, the six big emotions we need to learn to recover from to return to our true, joy-based self, and we give a tool for interpersonal resilience.The goal of this series is to equip you to live and lead with more emotional intelligence and resilience on your walk with God.The book Rare Leadership by Marcus Warner & Jim Wilder combines theology, brain science, and decades of counseling and consulting experience to equip you to cultivate maturity in yourself and others, develop strong group identity, keep relationships bigger than problems, and more! Over the course of this series, we'll be unpacking the four habits of a rare leader: Remain relational. Act like yourself. Return to joy. Endure hardship well.Check out the free discussion guide for this book in the description links. 📕 GET THE BOOK: https://deeperwalk.com/product/rare-leadership-book/🎁 DIY BOOK CLUB KIT: https://tinyurl.com/OTTDIY-RARE💝 PAY IT FORWARD: https://deeperwalk.com/donate/🙏 PRAYER MINISTRY REFERRALS: https://deeperwalk.com/ministry-referrals/📸 Follow OTT on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/onthetrail_podcast💚 HEART-FOCUSED COMMUNITY COURSE: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/heart-focused-community-course/⚔️ IDENTITY COURSE: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/identity-course/Go Deeper:😱 "Shalom Your Body" video with Jim Wilder - https://youtu.be/e_h42NC5sFE?si=aZbAPK8lsJ_ZzGh1🎧 Building Bounce Book Study on the Podcast: https://deeperwalk.com/podcast/33-the-secret-to-emotional-resilience-building-bounce-ch-1-s4e33/Thank you for joining us – father-daughter duo Marcus Warner and Stephanie Warner – on the trail to a deeper walk with God! Chapters -00:00 Shalom Your Body3:15 Return to Joy6:39 Freedom, Maturity, & the Journey13:39 Six Big Negative Emotions16:58 Validate, Comfort, Repattern26:03 The Referee Within

Tis the season where Christians often have questions or draw sides on whether or not we should have anything to do with Halloween. In this week's episode, we're discussing some common questions, such as...❓Should Christians celebrate Halloween at all?❓Can costumes, decorations, or trick-or-treating open a doorway to the enemy?❓How do you talk with your kids about Halloween?❓What if Christians I love have a different perspective from me?Thank you for joining us – father-daughter duo Marcus Warner and Stephanie Warner – on the trail to a deeper walk with God! 📕 Spiritual Warfare BOOK: https://deeperwalk.com/product/what-every-believer-should-know-about-spiritual-warfare-2nd-edition-book/💝 Become a TRAILBLAZER: https://deeperwalk.com/donate/🙏 PRAYER MINISTRY REFERRALS: https://deeperwalk.com/ministry-referrals/📸 Follow OTT on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/onthetrail_podcast❤️ FREEDOM COURSE: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/freedom-course/Go Deeper:🎧 How Should Christians Engage With Halloween? (S4E9)- https://deeperwalk.com/podcast/9-how-should-christians-engage-with-halloween/🎧 The Occult Invasion of America (S1E71) - https://deeperwalk.com/podcast/71-occult-invasion-america/Chapters -00:00 We Interrupt Your Regularly Scheduled Programming...0:56 Should Christians Celebrate Halloween at All?8:21 Creativity, Community, & Crossing Lines14:20 Can Costumes, Decorations, or Trick-Or-Treating Open a Doorway to the Enemy?16:00 How Do I Talk With My Kids About Halloween?22:26 What if Christians I love have a different perspective?25:13 Praying in this Season & a Prayer for You

How do you grow your capacity to feel emotions without having them define or control you?In this episode, we look at the second element of a R.A.R.E. Leader, the ability to "act like yourself." We discuss three categories of leader: predators, possums, and protectors. The mature version of you will always be a protector. How do you develop the skills to be the more mature version of yourself? How do you grow the habits of acting like yourself? Understanding your true identity, managing triggers, and developing healthy routines can transform your leadership and personal growth.The goal of this series is to equip you to live and lead with more emotional intelligence and resilience on your walk with God.The book Rare Leadership by Marcus Warner & Jim Wilder combines theology, brain science, and decades of counseling and consulting experience to equip you to cultivate maturity in yourself and others, develop strong group identity, keep relationships bigger than problems, and more! Over the course of this series, we'll be unpacking the four habits of a rare leader: Remain relational. Act like yourself. Return to joy. Endure hardship well. Check out the free discussion guide for this book in the description links.  📕 Rare Leadership BOOK: https://deeperwalk.com/product/rare-leadership-book/🎁 DIY BOOK CLUB KIT: https://tinyurl.com/OTTDIY-RARE💝 PAY IT FORWARD: https://deeperwalk.com/donate/🙏 PRAYER MINISTRY REFERRALS: https://deeperwalk.com/ministry-referrals/📸 Follow OTT on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/onthetrail_podcast💚 HEART-FOCUSED COMMUNITY COURSE: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/heart-focused-community-course/⚔️ IDENTITY COURSE: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/identity-course/Go Deeper:📚 The Pandora Problem by Jim Wilder - https://deeperwalk.com/product/the-pandora-problem-book/ Thank you for joining us – father-daughter duo Marcus Warner and Stephanie Warner – on the trail to a deeper walk with God! Chapters -00:00 A Window of Gratitude & Anticipation1:50 Act Like Yourself6:03 Protectors, Predators, & Possums14:12 Growing in Maturity16:59 Triggers & Why You Struggle to Act Like Yourself22:19 Healthy Habits25:52 Redemption & Restoration

One of the defining qualities of a mature leader is the ability to remain relational even in the face of problems or conflict. This does not mean ignoring problems but handling issues in a relational way and treating people like people, not problems.In this episode we're discussing relational strategies (C.A.K.E.), fear mapping and problem solving, and recognizing that sometimes we can't save every relationship, but how can we remain our relational selves and have the best chance to maintain relationships even when conflict arises? The goal of this series is to equip you to live and lead with more emotional intelligence and resilience on your walk with God.The book Rare Leadership by Marcus Warner & Jim Wilder combines theology, brain science, and decades of counseling and consulting experience to equip you to cultivate maturity in yourself and others, develop strong group identity, keep relationships bigger than problems, and more! Over the course of this series, we'll be unpacking the four habits of a rare leader: Remain relational. Act like yourself. Return to joy. Endure hardship well.  Check out the free discussion guide for this book in the description links. 📕 Rare Leadership BOOK: https://deeperwalk.com/product/rare-leadership-book/🎁 DIY BOOK CLUB KIT: https://tinyurl.com/OTTDIY-RARE💝 PAY IT FORWARD: https://deeperwalk.com/donate/🙏 PRAYER MINISTRY REFERRALS: https://deeperwalk.com/ministry-referrals/📸 Follow OTT on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/onthetrail_podcast💚 HEART-FOCUSED COMMUNITY COURSE: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/heart-focused-community-course/⚔️ IDENTITY COURSE: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/identity-course/Go Deeper:🎧 Building Bounce, Ch 7: S4E239- "Connecting With People" https://deeperwalk.com/podcast/39-connecting-with-people-building-bounce-ch-7-s4e39/Thank you for joining us – father-daughter duo Marcus Warner and Stephanie Warner – on the trail to a deeper walk with God!  Chapters -00:00 Welcome!1:04 R.A.R.E. Recap & Remain Relational3:26 You Can't Save Every Relationship10:46 Fear Mapping & Problem Solving15:13 C.A.K.E. Relational Strategies18:17 Envelope Conversations22:46 Relational Training Wheels & Assessment27:37 You Can Be Straightforward & Relational

How can we be intentional about noticing and imitating people with maturity skills we need to strengthen? How do we "practice the presence of God"? What's the difference between an Identity Group and an Accountability Group? This episode looks at Chapter Six "Where You Start: Imitation, Identity, Intimacy" and builds the framework we'll use for the rest of the series to put what we're learning into practice. We're talking about mirror neurons, intimacy with God, heart-focused communities, and more!The goal of this series is to equip you to live and lead with more emotional intelligence and resilience on your walk with God.The book Rare Leadership by Marcus Warner & Jim Wilder combines theology, brain science, and decades of counseling and consulting experience to equip you to cultivate maturity in yourself and others, develop strong group identity, keep relationships bigger than problems, and more! Over the course of this series, we'll be unpacking the four habits of a rare leader: Remain relational. Act like yourself. Return to joy. Endure hardship well.Check out the free discussion guide for this book in the description links. 📕 Rare Leadership BOOK: https://deeperwalk.com/product/rare-leadership-book/🎁 DIY BOOK CLUB KIT: https://tinyurl.com/OTTDIY-RARE💝 PAY IT FORWARD: https://deeperwalk.com/donate/🙏 PRAYER MINISTRY REFERRALS: https://deeperwalk.com/ministry-referrals/📸 Follow OTT on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/onthetrail_podcast💚 HEART-FOCUSED COMMUNITY COURSE: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/heart-focused-community-course/⚔️ IDENTITY COURSE: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/identity-course/Go Deeper:🎧 Jumpstart Your Prayer Life: S4E28 - "The Two Notebook Approach to Prayer" https://deeperwalk.com/podcast/28-the-two-notebook-approach-to-prayer-jumpstart-your-prayer-life-part-5-s4e28/🎧 Building Bounce: S4E40 - "Connecting with God" https://deeperwalk.com/podcast/40-connecting-with-god-building-bounce-ch-8-s4e40/Thank you for joining us – father-daughter duo Marcus Warner and Stephanie Warner – on the trail to a deeper walk with God! Chapters -00:00 Hope Together Recap00:47 Rare Leadership: Theory vs. Practice4:29 Imitation of Maturity Skills12:07 Intimacy with God22:30 Identity Groups vs. Accountability Groups27:54 Where Is Your Current Growth Edge?

When you know who you are, you get results.In leadership, many think almost exclusively in terms of getting results. Results do matter, and there's no getting around that in leadership. But chapter five of Rare Leadership argues that our top priority should be our culture and then from there we pursue results. Who are we as a group, as a company? How is it like us to act? People who focus only on results and not on culture often end up creating toxic environments motivated by fear.This week we're looking at the difference between management and leadership, how to build identity and belonging that shape culture, what maturity has to do with community building, and more.The goal of this series is to equip you to live and lead with more emotional intelligence and resilience on your walk with God.The book Rare Leadership by Marcus Warner & Jim Wilder combines theology, brain science, and decades of counseling and consulting experience to equip you to cultivate maturity in yourself and others, develop strong group identity, keep relationships bigger than problems, and more! Over the course of this series, we'll be unpacking the four habits of a rare leader: Remain relational. Act like yourself. Return to joy. Endure hardship well.Check out the free discussion guide for this book in the description links. 📕 Rare Leadership BOOK: https://deeperwalk.com/product/rare-leadership-book/🎁 DIY BOOK CLUB KIT: https://tinyurl.com/OTTDIY-RARE💝 PAY IT FORWARD: https://deeperwalk.com/donate/🙏 PRAYER MINISTRY REFERRALS: https://deeperwalk.com/ministry-referrals/📸 Follow OTT on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/onthetrail_podcast💛 HOPE TOGETHER CONFERENCE: https://hopetogether.com/deeperwalk/Go Deeper:🫡 Rare Leadership BOOT CAMP: https://deeperwalk.com/churches/rare-leadership-boot-camp/💚 HEART-FOCUSED COMMUNITY COURSE: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/heart-focused-community-course/⚔️ IDENTITY COURSE: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/identity-course/Thank you for joining us – father-daughter duo Marcus Warner and Stephanie Warner – on the trail to a deeper walk with God! Chapters -00:00 Happy Birthday Ben! & Hope Together Conference2:23 Chapter 5: Results vs. Culture8:30 Management vs. Leadership12:14 Building Identity15:30 Building Belonging18:27 How Has Culture Led to Better Results?21:05 Community Builders & Maturity25:57 Start Where You're At

Fear controls us when we avoid emotions we can't handle.What makes communities toxic, and how do we foster healthier, more resilient communities? In this episode, we continue to unpack how the "Slow Track" and "Fast Track" in the brain influence leadership and relational dynamics and how this all affects toxicity in a group. And if the Slow Track is by nature Slower than the Fast Track, what hope do we have of changing it? As we unpack Chapter 4, learn how to recognize warning signs that the Fast Track needs fixing, the dangers of isolation, motivating with joy vs. with fear, the consequences of avoiding negative emotions, and more! The goal of this series is to equip you to live and lead with more emotional intelligence and resilience on your walk with God. The book Rare Leadership by Marcus Warner & Jim Wilder combines theology, brain science, and decades of counseling and consulting experience to equip you to cultivate maturity in yourself and others, develop strong group identity, keep relationships bigger than problems, and more! Over the course of this series, we'll be unpacking the four habits of a rare leader: Remain relational. Act like yourself. Return to joy. Endure hardship well. Check out the free discussion guide for this book in the description links.  📕 Rare Leadership BOOK: https://deeperwalk.com/product/rare-leadership-book/🎁 DIY BOOK CLUB KIT: https://tinyurl.com/OTTDIY-RARE🫡 Rare Leadership BOOT CAMP: https://deeperwalk.com/churches/rare-leadership-boot-camp/⚔️ IDENTITY COURSE: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/identity-course/💝 PAY IT FORWARD: https://deeperwalk.com/donate/🙏 PRAYER MINISTRY REFERRALS: https://deeperwalk.com/ministry-referrals/📸 Follow OTT on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/onthetrail_podcast Go Deeper:🎧 S3E12 - This Is Your Brain On Fear - https://deeperwalk.com/podcast/12-this-is-your-brain-on-fear/🎧 S3E13 - Do You Have A Fear Bond With God? - https://deeperwalk.com/podcast/13-do-you-have-a-fear-bond-with-god/ Thank you for joining us – father-daughter duo Marcus Warner and Stephanie Warner – on the trail to a deeper walk with God!  Chapters -00:00 Happy Autumn! Happy Hobbit Day (Week)!1:43 Fast Track & Slow Track3:27 Toxic Community & Fast Track3:56 Consequences of Avoiding Negative Emotions9:35 How to Spot Warning Signs15:09 Healing vs. Skills Training17:09 The Dangers of Isolation19:51 Motivating with Fear vs. Joy25:18 Fellowship & Hope for Facing Problems

Good news! You can build your emotional competence.God designed our brains to run on the fuel of joy, and we have the ability to grow our capacity for joy as long as we live.In this episode, we're in Chapter Three: The Elevator in Your Brain where we look at Jesus Christ as a wonderful example of emotional competence and then unpack the four levels of the Joy Elevator. When these functions are working properly, everything else about how we operate goes more smoothly.So, let us walk you through the Attachment Center, the Assessment Center, the Attunement Center, and the Action/Identity Center in your brain. How does it all flow together and lead to more emotional competence? The goal of this series is to equip you to live and lead with more emotional intelligence and resilience on your walk with God. The book Rare Leadership by Marcus Warner & Jim Wilder combines theology, brain science, and decades of counseling and consulting experience to equip you to cultivate maturity in yourself and others, develop strong group identity, keep relationships bigger than problems, and more! Over the course of this series, we'll be unpacking the four habits of a rare leader: Remain relational. Act like yourself. Return to joy. Endure hardship well. Check out the free discussion guide for this book in the description links.  📕 Rare Leadership BOOK: https://deeperwalk.com/product/rare-leadership-book/🎁 DIY BOOK CLUB KIT: https://tinyurl.com/OTTDIY-RARE🫡 Rare Leadership BOOT CAMP: https://deeperwalk.com/churches/rare-leadership-boot-camp/⚔️ IDENTITY COURSE: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/identity-course/💝 PAY IT FORWARD: https://deeperwalk.com/donate/🙏 PRAYER MINISTRY REFERRALS: https://deeperwalk.com/ministry-referrals/📸 Follow OTT on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/onthetrail_podcast Go Deeper:🎧 S3E11 - Your Brain Runs On Joy - https://deeperwalk.com/podcast/11-your-brain-runs-on-joy/🎧 S4E35 - A Basic Brain Model (Building Bounce: Ch 3) - https://deeperwalk.com/podcast/35-a-basic-brain-model-building-bounce-ch-3-s4e35/ Thank you for joining us – father-daughter duo Marcus Warner and Stephanie Warner – on the trail to a deeper walk with God!  Chapters -00:00 Welcome, We're in Chapter Three!1:04 Spiritual Growth & Brain Science5:54 The Joy Elevator in the Brain7:53 Attachment & Craving11:15 Assessment: Good, Bad, Scary16:16 Attunement & Mutual Mind20:22 Action, Identity, & Joy25:52 Enemy Mode in the Brain28:34 This Makes Communication Easier

Immaturity is rampant in our culture, is it not? But it doesn't have to stay this way. In this episode, we discuss the difference between mature and immature leadership, the importance of IDENTITY + BELONGING = TRANSFORMATION, and how to build cultures that produce results through joy rather than fear. Celebrating Ten Years of Rare Leadership! Since its release in 2016, this book has equipped leaders, organizations, households, and more across the world with increasing trust, joy, and engagement in the people they lead. This fall we're journeying through Rare Leadership as our book study series on the podcast. The goal of this series is to equip you to live and lead with more emotional intelligence and resilience on your walk with God. Check out the free discussion guide for this book in the description links.  📕 Rare Leadership BOOK: https://deeperwalk.com/product/rare-leadership-book/🎁 DIY BOOK CLUB KIT: https://tinyurl.com/OTTDIY-RARE🫡 Rare Leadership BOOT CAMP: https://deeperwalk.com/churches/rare-leadership-boot-camp/⚔️ IDENTITY COURSE: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/identity-course/💝 PAY IT FORWARD: https://deeperwalk.com/donate/🙏 PRAYER MINISTRY REFERRALS: https://deeperwalk.com/ministry-referrals/📸 Follow OTT on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/onthetrail_podcast Go Deeper:🎧 S1E59 - Attachment Based Identity (Part 1) - https://deeperwalk.com/podcast/59-attachment-based-identity-part-1/🎧 S2E19 - The Broken Discipleship Factory (Series Compilation) - https://deeperwalk.com/podcast/19-the-broken-discipleship-factory-series-compilation/ Thank you for joining us – father-daughter duo Marcus Warner and Stephanie Warner – on the trail to a deeper walk with God!  Chapters -00:00 Ten Years of Rare Leadership!2:53 Sandbox Leaders & Immaturity7:40 What is maturity from a brain science pov?9:28 Super Chickens or Predator Chickens?11:39 Leadership that Leads to Transformation15:47 Identity & Belonging20:52 Flipping the Culture23:44 Group Identity & Individual Identity26:16 When Accountability Works, It's Because...29:26 Coaches You Love to Follow