Not 4 Prophets Podcast

For the season 4 finale, David and Trenia step away from the workplace and organizational themes that anchored this season to have a more personal conversation. One about love, partnership, and what's going wrong between Black men and the people who want to love them. Women are opting out of relationships with men who can't meet them where they are, and a lot of men,  even the ones with the right politics, can't figure out what they're missing.  David and Trenia discuss the emotional intelligence gap, the difference between a protector and a controller, and the asymmetry of effort that starts long before a date does. They also talk about why a six-pack and multiple properties don't mean you're ready for partnership, why younger women are increasingly choosing to be alone rather than settle, and whether coaching could actually help men who want to show up differently.  Taking a career break or thinking about one? Book a free chemistry call with David and get his new ebook, 14 Insights From My Career Break: https://calendly.com/ddevaughn/30min-chem Are you a new nonprofit executive director or senior leader that’s overwhelmed in your new position and looking for support? Schedule a complimentary, 30-minute consultation with Trenia. Click the link to book your call https://bit.ly/slconsultation    

Sometimes the person who harmed you at work keeps rising. They get the bigger title, the public profile, years of recognition, while the institution that knew what they did closes ranks and protects them on the way up. And then, years later, the fall comes. Not because of what they did to you. For other reasons, on someone else's timeline.  In this episode, Trenia and David discuss what that moment feels like for Black leaders, and it’s not a relief. As well as the complexity of the experience: the memory of what the harm cost professionally, physically, and psychologically, what it meant that the institution chose to look away, and the harder question underneath it all: whether a reckoning that arrives late and sideways, with no repair attached, is even accountability at all? Have you ever watched someone who harmed you professionally face consequences years later, for reasons that had nothing to do with you?    Taking a career break or thinking about one? Book a free chemistry call with David and get his new ebook, 14 Insights From My Career Break: https://calendly.com/ddevaughn/30min-chem Are you a new nonprofit executive director or senior leader that’s overwhelmed in your new position and looking for support? Schedule a complimentary, 30-minute consultation with Trenia. Click the link to book your call https://bit.ly/slconsultation  

There's a force in this country that wants to remove Black people from society — except for our labor and our entertainment. And then there are people who call themselves allies but will compromise with that force when it suits them. They march with you but won't fund you. They quote you but won't protect you. They say "believe Black women" but they don't do that either.  In this episode, David and Trenia name the pattern directly: from white leftists reaching across the aisle to MAGA, to the Jasmine Crockett situation that played out exactly like Stacey Abrams, exactly like Kamala Harris. We’ve moved past betrayal to realizing it's a feature of the system. And once Black people stop being surprised by it, the question becomes what and how do we build something that doesn't require partnering with inconsistent allies? When did you stop being surprised by allies who fold? And what did you start building instead? Are you a new nonprofit executive director or senior leader that’s overwhelmed in your new position and looking for support? Schedule a complimentary, 30-minute consultation with Trenia. Click the link to book your call https://bit.ly/slconsultation Taking a career break or thinking about one? Book a free chemistry call with David and get his new ebook, 14 Insights From My Career Break: https://calendly.com/ddevaughn/30min-chem  

Government agencies and nonprofits love to talk about equity in contracting. But Black-owned and minority and women-owned small businesses (MWBE) are living the reality of what that really means: certifications that take months to get approved, insurance requirements designed for companies ten times your size, payment terms that are supposed to be 30 days but quietly stretch to 90, and unpaid planning work just to stay in the running for a contract. In this episode, David and Trenia discuss the gap between what institutions say about fair contracting and what they actually ask small business owners to absorb just to work with them. They get specific about how requirements like years-in-business thresholds, reference checks, and financial audits end up keeping Black-owned businesses out, no matter how qualified they are. They also get into the personal cost: what it does to a small business owner's confidence, boundaries, and long-term strategy when they have to smile through a process that's taking more than it's giving back. Taking a career break or thinking about one? Book a free chemistry call with David and get his new ebook, 14 Insights From My Career Break: https://calendly.com/ddevaughn/30min-chem Are you a new nonprofit executive director or senior leader that’s overwhelmed in your new position and looking for support? Schedule a complimentary, 30-minute consultation with Trenia. Click the link to book your call https://bit.ly/slconsultation  

Are they really going to fund a revolution? That's the question underneath every grant application, corporate sponsorship, and philanthropic relationship that asks for gratitude more than change.  David and Trenia get into the uncomfortable truth that social justice work is largely financed by the same systems it's trying to dismantle, and what it would look like to build something different. They ask why the conversation about Black economic power keeps getting captured by respectability politics, and what's missing between individual wealth-building and genuine collective economic models. The revolution needs a budget. The question is who funds it? Are you a new nonprofit executive director or senior leader that’s overwhelmed in your new position and looking for support? Schedule a complimentary, 30-minute consultation with Trenia. Click the link to book your call https://bit.ly/slconsultation Taking a career break or thinking about one? Book a free chemistry call with David and get his new ebook, 14 Insights From My Career Break: https://calendly.com/ddevaughn/30min-chem  

Black people are stepping back from social movements, from organizing,  and the exhausting cycle of being the moral conscience of a country that doesn't return the favor. Not out of apathy, but exhaustion and clarity.  In this episode, David and Trenia discuss what happens when the people who've always shown up decide to stop showing up. They trace the through-line of withdrawal from jobs, movements, and America itself, as a calculated response to systems that take without giving back, and sit with the harder question that follows: not just what people are walking away from, but what grows in the space that opens up when you stop carrying everyone else's load. Black people don't owe this country their perpetual fight. Stepping back might be the most honest thing anyone's done in a long time. Taking a career break or thinking about one? Book a free chemistry call with David and get his new ebook, 14 Insights From My Career Break: https://calendly.com/ddevaughn/30min-chem Are you a new nonprofit executive director or senior leader that’s overwhelmed in your new position and looking for support? Schedule a complimentary, 30-minute consultation with Trenia. Click the link to book your call https://bit.ly/slconsultation  

500,000 Black women have been pushed out of the workforce. Not quit. Not retired. Pushed out. David and Trenia talk about that number and the “easy” narrative that follows it: the talk of "pivoting," resilience, and entrepreneurship as the obvious next step. They discuss the venture capital double standard that lets white founders fail upward while Black women builders go unfunded, and the increasingly hostile reality for the women who stay in their jobs with fewer options, more debt, masks off. Half a million out of work is more than a statistic. It's a crisis with names, mortgages, and children. The question for Black women is what comes next, and who's building it? If you're one of the 500,000 or you know someone who is, what does "what's next" actually look like from where you're standing?   Are you a new nonprofit executive director or senior leader that’s overwhelmed in your new position and looking for support? Schedule a complimentary, 30-minute consultation with Trenia. Click the link to book your call https://bit.ly/slconsultation   Want to get in touch with David at StrivEquity? Visit https://strivequity.com/  

People are moving abroad. Moving back in with family. Downsizing, pooling resources, pulling back from obligations that don't serve them anymore. Some might think of it as retreat, while others call it strategy. David and Trenia discuss quiet quitting applied broadly — your job, your marriage, social movements, even your relationship to this country, and what it means when the cost of staying somewhere finally outweighs what you're getting back.  They talk through the pros and cons of communal living and moving home, the emotional maturity that kind of restructuring requires, and why "right-sizing" is a more honest, less shameful word than "shrinking."  What have you right-sized in your life recently, or what are you thinking about right-sizing? What's holding you back? Are you a new nonprofit executive director or senior leader that’s overwhelmed in your new position and looking for support? Schedule a complimentary, 30-minute consultation with Trenia. Click the link to book your call https://bit.ly/slconsultation Want to get in touch with David at StrivEquity? Visit https://strivequity.com/  

You build a space rooted in Black values, Black vision, Black leadership, and then people walk in carrying every unresolved thing from every other space they've ever been in. David and Trenia discuss what happens when participants of all identities, ethnicities and backgrounds show up to values-driven spaces and expect to be coddled, and their comfort to be accommodated. Replaying old roles like savior, fixer, or devil's advocate, centering their discomfort over the people and culture that already exists, and undermining Black leadership while staying charming to everyone else. They also discuss how to tell the difference between a healthy challenge and someone importing their organizational demons. Protecting a Black-led space is about stewardship more than gatekeeping. And the people who call it gatekeeping are usually the ones the gate was built for. Have you ever had someone bring their organizational demons into a space you helped build? What did you do,  and what do you wish you'd done?   Want to get in touch with David at StrivEquity? Visit https://strivequity.com/ Are you a new nonprofit executive director or senior leader that’s overwhelmed in your new position and looking for support? Schedule a complimentary, 30-minute consultation with Trenia. Click the link to book your call https://bit.ly/slconsultation  

Leaving a job, starting a business, and walking away from an institution for Black leaders are not simple career moves, nor have they ever been. From convict leasing and sharecropper contracts to sundown towns, the freedom to exit has always come with a price. David and Trenia trace that line from history to right now, asking what it means that entrepreneurship is being offered as the solution to mass displacement from the workforce, and how we distinguish between choosing to leave and being pushed out when the system may not allow that distinction at all. The "just start a business" advice ignores a history where Black exit was criminalized, and a present where the safety net is disappearing. Has fear of what comes after ever kept you in a job you knew you needed to leave? What did that cost you?   Want to get in touch with David at StrivEquity? Visit https://strivequity.com/ Are you a new nonprofit executive director or senior leader that’s overwhelmed in your new position and looking for support? Schedule a complimentary, 30-minute consultation with Trenia. Click the link to book your call https://bit.ly/slconsultation