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Turns out the goldbugs were right and the Bitcoiners were wrong. The baby boomers get to take a victory lap. Gold Investors Are Taking A Victory Lap! Colin explains how Boomer goldbugs finally get to take a victory lap as Bitcoin gets beaten out by gold in 2025. Were Bitcoiners wrong about the debasement trade? Subscribe to the newsletter! https://newsletter.blockspacemedia.com Notes: • Gold beats Bitcoin in 2025 • Gold is winning the debasement trade • It’s a geopolitical game • China, US, and Rare Earth Metals Timestamps: 00:00 Start 00:40 Goldbug victory lap 03:55 Gold soars as BTC crabs 06:19 China buying gold 09:28 The dollar is cooked 14:10 Rare earth minerals 17:24 Narratives - 👋Bitcoin Season 2 is produced Blockspace Media, Bitcoin’s first B2B publication in Bitcoin. Follow us on Twitter and check out our newsletter for the best information in Bitcoin mining, Ordinals and tech! Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? [email protected]

Unpacking the fragility of the markets with Inversion CEO Santiago Roel Santos. In today's Markets Outlook, CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie and Andy Baehr sit down with Inversion CEO Santiago Roel Santos to discuss why despite significant institutional inflows, the crypto market remains highly volatile. Plus, he argues that the industry must pivot from speculation to utility by integrating invisible blockchain tech into unsexy, traditional businesses to achieve widespread adoption and regulatory comfort. - Break the cycle of exploitation. Break down the barriers to truth. Break into the next generation of privacy. Break Free. Free to scroll without being monetized. Free from censorship. Freedom without fear. We deserve more when it comes to privacy. Experience the next generation of blockchain that is private and inclusive by design. Break free with Midnight, visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠midnight.network/break-free⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Bridge simplifies global money movement. As the leading stablecoin issuance and orchestration platform, Bridge abstracts away blockchain complexity so businesses can seamlessly move between fiat and stablecoins. From payroll providers and remittance companies to neobanks and treasury teams, Bridge powers payments, savings, and stablecoin issuance for thousands – like Shopify, Metamask, Remitly, and more. URL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://hubs.ly/Q03KGbRK0⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - OwlTing (Nasdaq: OWLS) is building invisible rails for global payments. With OwlPay, businesses and users can bridge fiat and stablecoins, send money instantly across borders, and access stablecoin checkout at lower costs. Licensed worldwide, OwlTing delivers secure, compliant, and regulated infrastructure for the digital economy. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠owlting.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie and Andy Baehr.

Sam Bankman-Fried claims FTX was never insolvent. Sam Bankman-Fried claims FTX was never insolvent and blames bankruptcy lawyers for the company's collapse. The X post is an effort from Bankman-Fried’s broader campaign to reframe his conviction and win political sympathy. Will he be pardoned by the President? CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily." - Break the cycle of exploitation. Break down the barriers to truth. Break into the next generation of privacy. Break Free. Free to scroll without being monetized. Free from censorship. Freedom without fear. We deserve more when it comes to privacy. Experience the next generation of blockchain that is private and inclusive by design. Break free with Midnight, visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠midnight.network/break-free⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Bridge simplifies global money movement. As the leading stablecoin issuance and orchestration platform, Bridge abstracts away blockchain complexity so businesses can seamlessly move between fiat and stablecoins. From payroll providers and remittance companies to neobanks and treasury teams, Bridge powers payments, savings, and stablecoin issuance for thousands – like Shopify, Metamask, Remitly, and more. URL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://hubs.ly/Q03KGbRK0⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - OwlTing (Nasdaq: OWLS) is building invisible rails for global payments. With OwlPay, businesses and users can bridge fiat and stablecoins, send money instantly across borders, and access stablecoin checkout at lower costs. Licensed worldwide, OwlTing delivers secure, compliant, and regulated infrastructure for the digital economy. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠owlting.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Taylor Fleming.

Core Scientific shareholders voted no on CoreWeave’s $9 billion acquisition proposal, and CleanSpark acquired a Texas site for a 285 MW AI site. Subscribe to the Blockspace newsletter for market-making news as it hits the wire! Welcome back to The Mining Pod! For this week’s roundup, we break down Core Scientific shareholders voting NO on the $9B CoreWeave acquisition, CleanSpark's plans for a new 285 megawatt Texas site for AI workloads, and TeraWulf's record 25-year contract with FluidStack. Plus, Ethan Vera from Luxor joins to analyze the ASIC market and where hash rate growth is really coming from. And for this week’s cry corner, why the filter soft fork is doomed to fail. Notes:  • Core Scientific shareholders rejected CoreWeave deal • Hashprice dropped to $43.73 per petahash daily • Difficulty adjusted upward 6.3% • Hashrate reached 1.1 zettahash on 7-day average • CleanSpark acquired Texas site with 300 MW pipeline • TeraWulf signed 25-year deal with FluidStack Timestamps: 00:00 Start 02:09 Difficulty Report by Luxor 07:47 ASIC market update 12:01 CORZ deal fails 22:14 CleanSpark data center acquisition 27:51 WULF $9.5B FS extension 33:36 Cry Corner: Fork time? 👉CleanSpark, America's Bitcoin Miner! CleanSpark (Nasdaq: CLSK), America's Bitcoin Miner®, is a market-leading Bitcoin miner with a proven track record of success. They own a fully self-operated portfolio of mining facilities across the U.S. powered by globally competitive energy prices. CleanSpark sits at the intersection of Bitcoin, energy, operational excellence and capital stewardship. Optimally monetizing low-cost, high reliability electricity positions them to prosper in an ever-changing world. 👉 FBOX, Cooling for Bitcoin Mining and the AI Data Center Transformation FBOX is the global leader in cooling system manufacturing, with the #1 shipment volume of bitcoin mining containers worldwide. Not only powering for the strongest hashrate, their technology also helps mining infrastructure transform into AI data centers. Backed by the largest production scale on earth, global deployment capability, and a full range of cooling solutions, they are shaping the future of compute. 👉 Luxor, Leaders In Bitcoin Mining and Compute Power! Get game-changing mining results with Luxor Firmware. Boost hashrate, cut energy costs, protect your hardware, and maximize mining profits with LuxOS. Published twice weekly, "The Mining Pod" interviews the best builders and operators in the Bitcoin and Bitcoin mining landscape. Subscribe to get notifications when we publish interviews on Tuesday and a news show on Friday!

President Trump lowers tariff on China after meeting with Xi. President Donald Trump said U.S. tariffs on China would be lowered to 47% from 57% after meeting with his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping on Wednesday. Trump also said the rare earths issue has been settled and there would be no more roadblocks on them. How did bitcoin react to the trade deal and Fed decisions? - Break the cycle of exploitation. Break down the barriers to truth. Break into the next generation of privacy. Break Free. Free to scroll without being monetized. Free from censorship. Freedom without fear. We deserve more when it comes to privacy. Experience the next generation of blockchain that is private and inclusive by design. Break free with Midnight, visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠midnight.network/break-free⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Bridge simplifies global money movement. As the leading stablecoin issuance and orchestration platform, Bridge abstracts away blockchain complexity so businesses can seamlessly move between fiat and stablecoins. From payroll providers and remittance companies to neobanks and treasury teams, Bridge powers payments, savings, and stablecoin issuance for thousands – like Shopify, Metamask, Remitly, and more. URL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://hubs.ly/Q03KGbRK0⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - OwlTing (Nasdaq: OWLS) is building invisible rails for global payments. With OwlPay, businesses and users can bridge fiat and stablecoins, send money instantly across borders, and access stablecoin checkout at lower costs. Licensed worldwide, OwlTing delivers secure, compliant, and regulated infrastructure for the digital economy. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠owlting.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Taylor Fleming.

'Czstatue' token's pump and dump. A statue of Changpeng “CZ” Zhao in Washington, D.C. became the center of a memecoin frenzy after the “czstatue” token surged 27,000% in a day before collapsing. Zhao said he doesn’t appreciate being used for profit, telling followers “don’t buy the meme.” CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily." - Break the cycle of exploitation. Break down the barriers to truth. Break into the next generation of privacy. Break Free. Free to scroll without being monetized. Free from censorship. Freedom without fear. We deserve more when it comes to privacy. Experience the next generation of blockchain that is private and inclusive by design. Break free with Midnight, visit ⁠⁠⁠midnight.network/break-free⁠⁠⁠ - Bridge simplifies global money movement. As the leading stablecoin issuance and orchestration platform, Bridge abstracts away blockchain complexity so businesses can seamlessly move between fiat and stablecoins. From payroll providers and remittance companies to neobanks and treasury teams, Bridge powers payments, savings, and stablecoin issuance for thousands – like Shopify, Metamask, Remitly, and more. URL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://hubs.ly/Q03KGbRK0⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - OwlTing (Nasdaq: OWLS) is building invisible rails for global payments. With OwlPay, businesses and users can bridge fiat and stablecoins, send money instantly across borders, and access stablecoin checkout at lower costs. Licensed worldwide, OwlTing delivers secure, compliant, and regulated infrastructure for the digital economy. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠owlting.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Taylor Fleming.

Rob Hamilton breaks down BIP 444, the controversial soft fork proposal to limit OP_RETURN outputs and remove inscriptions. Legal pressure on mining pools, hashrate drama, and why this fork will likely fail. Rob Hamilton from AnchorWatch joins us to talk about the explosive BIP 444 proposal that could fork Bitcoin. We break down PortlandHodl's original 520-byte output limit idea, LukeDashjr's controversial technique to ban inscriptions, and the legal pressure being applied to mining pools. Rob explains why this fork will likely fail, what happens to your Bitcoin if it succeeds, and why opponents finally admitted a consensus change was needed all along. Subscribe to the newsletter! https://newsletter.blockspacemedia.com **Notes:** • BIP 444 limits outputs to 520 bytes max • OP_RETURN reduced from current to 84 bytes • F2Pool controls 12% hash rate, opposes fork • Mining pool switching costs nearly nothing • Fork creates 2 coins: pure vs unholy Bitcoin • Legal pressure applied to multiple pools Timestamps: 00:00 Start 01:55 Portland HODL's proposal 04:48 PR 444 (is dumb) 08:22 Author of the PR: Dathon Ohm 09:45 Knots & Ocean inner circle 10:45 LEGAL & MORAL authorities! Oh my! 14:52 Assume 444 was merged, wat do? 21:55 Stamps maximalism! One jpg to rule them all! 28:47 Possible paths forward 31:09 What happens next? - 👋Bitcoin Season 2 is produced Blockspace Media, Bitcoin’s first B2B publication in Bitcoin. Follow us on Twitter and check out our newsletter for the best information in Bitcoin mining, Ordinals and tech! Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? [email protected]

Diving deep in the state of the markets with Aptos Labs co-founder Mo Shaikh. Aptos Labs co-founder Mo Shaikh joins "Markets Outlook" with the announcement of his new $50M fund, Maximum Frequency Ventures. He breaks down his investment thesis and the hands-on approach inspired by Elon Musk. Plus, why he believes crypto is one of the "most difficult industry" to build in. - Break the cycle of exploitation. Break down the barriers to truth. Break into the next generation of privacy. Break Free. Free to scroll without being monetized. Free from censorship. Freedom without fear. We deserve more when it comes to privacy. Experience the next generation of blockchain that is private and inclusive by design. Break free with Midnight, visit ⁠⁠⁠midnight.network/break-free⁠⁠⁠ - Bridge simplifies global money movement. As the leading stablecoin issuance and orchestration platform, Bridge abstracts away blockchain complexity so businesses can seamlessly move between fiat and stablecoins. From payroll providers and remittance companies to neobanks and treasury teams, Bridge powers payments, savings, and stablecoin issuance for thousands – like Shopify, Metamask, Remitly, and more. URL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://hubs.ly/Q03KGbRK0⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - OwlTing (Nasdaq: OWLS) is building invisible rails for global payments. With OwlPay, businesses and users can bridge fiat and stablecoins, send money instantly across borders, and access stablecoin checkout at lower costs. Licensed worldwide, OwlTing delivers secure, compliant, and regulated infrastructure for the digital economy. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠owlting.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.

A prediction market on Truth Social? Trump Media & Technology Group, the parent company behind President Donald Trump’s social platform Truth Social, plans to roll out prediction markets directly in the app through a deal with Crypto.com’s U.S.-registered derivatives arm. Can Trump Media win the competition against Polymarket and Kalshi? CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily." - Break the cycle of exploitation. Break down the barriers to truth. Break into the next generation of privacy. Break Free. Free to scroll without being monetized. Free from censorship. Freedom without fear. We deserve more when it comes to privacy. Experience the next generation of blockchain that is private and inclusive by design. Break free with Midnight, visit ⁠⁠midnight.network/break-free⁠⁠ - Bridge simplifies global money movement. As the leading stablecoin issuance and orchestration platform, Bridge abstracts away blockchain complexity so businesses can seamlessly move between fiat and stablecoins. From payroll providers and remittance companies to neobanks and treasury teams, Bridge powers payments, savings, and stablecoin issuance for thousands – like Shopify, Metamask, Remitly, and more. URL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://hubs.ly/Q03KGbRK0⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - OwlTing (Nasdaq: OWLS) is building invisible rails for global payments. With OwlPay, businesses and users can bridge fiat and stablecoins, send money instantly across borders, and access stablecoin checkout at lower costs. Licensed worldwide, OwlTing delivers secure, compliant, and regulated infrastructure for the digital economy. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠owlting.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Taylor Fleming.

MARA as once the darling of public bitcoin miners, but it’s fallen behind in 2025. We break down why and what MARA can do to get back in the limelight. Welcome back to The Mining Pod! Today, we dive deep into MARA, the largest public Bitcoin miner by hash rate at 60.4 EH/s. Despite leading in hashrate, MARA has lagged behind peers like Riot and CleanSpark with just a 5.4% YoY return versus competitors seeing double or triple digit gains. We break down the ownership structure of MARA’s current bitcoin mining operations, the company’s 96% US concentration versus 50/50 US/international goals, vertical integration moves, and why the market values AI/HPC megawatts over Bitcoin mining capacity right now. Notes:  • MARA operates 60.4 EH/s across 18 sites • Only 5.4% YTD return vs peers at 62%+ gains • 96% US footprint, targeting 50/50 international split • ~50/50 split between owned and hosted capacity • 1.174GW total operational capacity • Q2 SG&A costs: $92-93 million Timestamps: 00:00 Start 02:56 MARA snapshot 07:20 Sovereign systems 15:32 Financials 18:20 IREN, RIOT flip MARA 19:50 CTO let go 22:48 MARA in a crab market 23:16 Exaion France Power Authority 26:30 Share dilution 30:03 Auradine rigs 👉CleanSpark, America's Bitcoin Miner! CleanSpark (Nasdaq: CLSK), America's Bitcoin Miner®, is a market-leading Bitcoin miner with a proven track record of success. They own a fully self-operated portfolio of mining facilities across the U.S. powered by globally competitive energy prices. CleanSpark sits at the intersection of Bitcoin, energy, operational excellence and capital stewardship. Optimally monetizing low-cost, high reliability electricity positions them to prosper in an ever-changing world. 👉 FBOX, Cooling for Bitcoin Mining and the AI Data Center Transformation FBOX is the global leader in cooling system manufacturing, with the #1 shipment volume of bitcoin mining containers worldwide. Not only powering for the strongest hashrate, their technology also helps mining infrastructure transform into AI data centers. Backed by the largest production scale on earth, global deployment capability, and a full range of cooling solutions, they are shaping the future of compute. 👉 Luxor, Leaders In Bitcoin Mining and Compute Power! Get game-changing mining results with Luxor Firmware. Boost hashrate, cut energy costs, protect your hardware, and maximize mining profits with LuxOS. Published twice weekly, "The Mining Pod" interviews the best builders and operators in the Bitcoin and Bitcoin mining landscape. Subscribe to get notifications when we publish interviews on Tuesday and a news show on Friday!