Intersections

Ashlee and Chris Kleinert join Kyle and Tom to share their journey through family, entrepreneurship, philanthropy, and some of North Texas' most ambitious developments.From growing up in the Hunt family and building a career at Hunt Investments to launching Ruthie's food trucks and advocating for victims of human trafficking, the Kleinerts discuss the experiences and relationships that have shaped their lives. Chris also takes us behind the scenes of major Dallas-area projects, including the Goldman Sachs campus and the 2,500-acre Fields development in Frisco.Ashlee and Chris share how their marriage has shaped their approach to leadership, why community service remains central to their work, and what they hope to pass on to the next generation.In this Episode03:13 Meet Ashlee and Chris Kleinert05:03 Growing Up in the Hunt Family16:29 A Blind Date That Changed Everything20:01 Chris Kleinert's Career and Joining Hunt Investments30:05 Fighting Human Trafficking in Dallas44:26 Turning the 2008 Recession Into an Opportunity to Serve48:01 The Hunt Family's Real Estate Legacy54:49 Bringing Goldman Sachs to Dallas01:01:24 The Future of Downtown Dallas and Reunion01:08:36 Marriage, Partnership, and Building Ruthie's01:18:08 Ruthie's Cafe and St. Philip's School01:22:26 Developing Fields Ranch in Frisco01:30:34 Building a Legacy for the Next GenerationThanks to Our SponsorsOur Presenting Sponsor is Lynn, Pinker, Hurst & Schwegmann. To learn more visit: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lynnllp.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. And thank you for your support.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Arcis Golf⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: A premier owner and operator of private, resort, and daily-fee clubs, delivering exceptional experiences and meaningful local impact. Gliden: Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠glidenindustries.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Brownlee Wealth Management: Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bwmplanning.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to Learn More.Like and Subscribe🍏 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎧 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📹 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠—Editing and Support by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Good Podcast Co.⁠⁠⁠

Curt Farmer, former Chairman and CEO of Comerica and Vice Chairman of Fifth Third Bank, joins Intersections for a conversation about leadership, banking, and the values that shape the decisions we make. Curt takes us behind the scenes of the 2008 financial crisis, the banking turmoil surrounding Silicon Valley Bank and First Republic, and the difficult decisions that ultimately led Comerica toward a merger with Fifth Third. He also discusses the changing expectations of younger generations, the impact of AI on relationship-driven businesses, and the challenges facing higher education as Chairman of the Board at Wake Forest University.It's a conversation about much more than banking. It's about building strong institutions, leading through uncertainty, and recognizing that the best leadership decisions aren't always the easiest ones.In This Episode03:38 Meet Curt Farmer04:49 Banking for the Entire Community10:47 Faith, Family, and a Strong Work Ethic15:07 The Next Generation of Leaders22:02 The Challenges Facing Higher Education34:39 From Aspiring Minister to Banker45:34 Lessons from the 2008 Financial Crisis49:06 The Banking Crisis That Changed Everything01:02:40 The Difficult Decision to Sell Comerica01:33:40 Legacy, Integrity, and Doing What's RightThanks to Our Sponsors⁠Dallas Citizens Council⁠: November 5 Join the Dallas Citizens Counsel for a conversation on the Business of College Sports. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Arcis Golf⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: A premier owner and operator of private, resort, and daily-fee clubs, delivering exceptional experiences and meaningful local impact. Gliden: Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠glidenindustries.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Brownlee Wealth Management: Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bwmplanning.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to Learn More.Like and Subscribe🍏 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎧 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📹 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠—Editing and Support by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Good Podcast Co.⁠⁠⁠

Bob Rowling is the chairman and CEO of TRT Holdings and the driving force behind Omni Hotels & Resorts. From growing up in a financially struggling household in Corpus Christi to building a multibillion-dollar business empire, Bob shares the pivotal decisions, unexpected opportunities, and lessons in integrity that shaped his career. He takes us behind the scenes of Omni's growth, the development of PGA Frisco, and his vision for revitalizing downtown Dallas.But Bob's story goes far beyond business. He opens up about a life-threatening health crisis that deepened his faith, the importance of family and lifelong friendships, and how his perspective on wealth and generosity has evolved. From philanthropy and public policy to the lessons he'd share with his younger self, Bob offers a powerful reminder that true success isn't measured by money, but by faith, relationships, and the legacy we leave behind.In this Episode[02:30] Bob Rowling's Early Life and Career[06:00] Faith, Family, and Lessons from His Father[12:15] The Oil Deal That Changed Everything[20:00] From Oil Fields to Omni Hotels[28:00] Taking Risks and Building a Hospitality Empire[33:30] PGA Frisco and Bringing Major Championships to North Texas[39:30] The Omni Dallas Hotel and the Future of Downtown Dallas[50:00] A Life-Threatening Health Crisis and the Power of Faith[54:00] Wealth, Generosity, and Giving Back[01:13:00] Leadership Lessons and Leaving a Meaningful LegacyThanks to Our SponsorsDallas Citizens Council: November 5 Join the Dallas Citizens Counsel for a conversation on the Business of College Sports. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Arcis Golf⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: A premier owner and operator of private, resort, and daily-fee clubs, delivering exceptional experiences and meaningful local impact. Gliden: Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠glidenindustries.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Brownlee Wealth Management: Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bwmplanning.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to Learn More.Like and Subscribe🍏 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎧 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📹 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠—Editing and Support by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Good Podcast Co.⁠⁠⁠

Ross Perot Jr. is a businessman, entrepreneur, aviation pioneer, real estate developer, and Chairman of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. In this wide-ranging conversation, Ross shares why he remains deeply optimistic about the future of American business and the power of free enterprise—even as the country faces challenges around China, immigration, political division, and the rise of AI.Ross also takes us inside the remarkable Perot family story, from watching his father build EDS in their living room to flying a helicopter around the world and helping transform thousands of acres north of Fort Worth into AllianceTexas. Along the way, he shares lessons on leadership, integrity, public-private partnerships, entrepreneurship, patriotism, and why the next generation has an opportunity to build things even bigger than the generation before them.In this Episode[03:00] The State of American Business[08:00] Capitalism, Socialism & the Next Generation[11:44] AI and America’s Next Economic Boom[12:19] China, North America & America’s Biggest Threat[15:05] Can America Still Build Big Things?[19:42] Growing Up in the Perot Family[26:42] Flying a Helicopter Around the World[38:10] From Aviation Adventure to the U.S. Air Force[40:25] The Origins of AllianceTexas[48:00] Political Leadership That Gets Things Done[01:08:48] What Ross Perot Sr. Taught America[01:10:44] The Mavericks, Victory Park & The Dallas Downtown[01:32:20] Immigration, Business & Getting Washington to Act[01:33:00] Building the Next Generation of Perot Companies[01:34:40] Business as a Force for Good in Iraq & SyriaThanks to Our SponsorsOur Presenting Sponsor is Lynn, Pinker, Hurst & Schwegmann. To learn more visit: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lynnllp.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. And thank you for your support.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Arcis Golf⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: A premier owner and operator of private, resort, and daily-fee clubs, delivering exceptional experiences and meaningful local impact. Gliden: Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠glidenindustries.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Brownlee Wealth Management: Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bwmplanning.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to Learn More.Like and Subscribe🍏 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎧 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📹 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠—Editing and Support by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Good Podcast Co.⁠⁠⁠

Dallas is booming—but can its downtown keep pace?In this live episode of Intersections, Dallas City Manager Kim Tolbert and businessman Ray Washburne join the conversation about what it will take to build a stronger, more connected and more vibrant Dallas. From Charleston and Santa Barbara to Dallas’ own Bishop Arts, Deep Ellum and Klyde Warren Park, they explore why great cities need more than economic growth—they need a genuine sense of place.The conversation dives into the future of Downtown Dallas, the Downtown Dallas 2036 plan, the new convention center, hotel and entertainment development, parking and walkability, vacant properties, permitting reform, professional sports and the importance of public-private partnerships. Kim and Ray also discuss why investing in the city’s core isn’t just about downtown—it has the potential to strengthen neighborhoods and economic development throughout Dallas.In this Episode[03:01] What Makes a Great City?[09:48] Dallas as an Economic Engine[14:09] Creating a Sense of Place in Dallas[20:17] Reimagining Downtown Dallas[27:22] The Economics of a Strong Downtown[30:23] Downtown Dallas 2036[34:26] Unlocking Surface Parking Lots & Vacant Property[42:10] Public-Private Partnerships & the Convention Center[51:19] Professional Sports & the Future of Downtown[54:21] Zoning, Permitting & Making Dallas Easier to Build InThanks to Our SponsorsOur Presenting Sponsor is Lynn, Pinker, Hurst & Schwegmann. To learn more visit: ⁠⁠⁠⁠lynnllp.com⁠⁠⁠⁠. And thank you for your support.⁠⁠⁠⁠Arcis Golf⁠⁠⁠⁠: A premier owner and operator of private, resort, and daily-fee clubs, delivering exceptional experiences and meaningful local impact. Gliden: Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠glidenindustries.com⁠⁠⁠⁠Brownlee Wealth Management: Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠bwmplanning.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ to Learn More.Like and Subscribe🍏 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎧 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📹 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠—Editing and Support by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Good Podcast Co.⁠⁠⁠

Trevor Rees-Jones is an independent oil and gas entrepreneur whose career took him from practicing bankruptcy law and struggling to keep a tiny energy business alive to becoming an early leader in the Barnett Shale and building one of the country’s most successful independent oil and gas companies.But his story is as much about failure as success. Trevor shares what kept him going through 17 consecutive dry wells, years of financial uncertainty and nearly two decades of work before his breakthrough. He also opens up about the role faith, integrity, family and experience have played in shaping the way he leads and does business. And after extraordinary financial success, Trevor explains why he and his wife have devoted so much of their wealth to philanthropy—and why he feels an urgency to put even more of it to work helping others.In this Episode[03:21] An Unconventional Texas Businessman[06:50] Growing Up in Dallas & Early Entrepreneurship[17:06] From Dartmouth to Law—and Finding Oil & Gas[24:00] Integrity, Win-Win Deals & Building Company Culture[37:36] Faith, Family & Lessons from Scouting[47:27] Leaving Law with $4,000 in the Bank[50:00] 17 Dry Wells & the Decision to Keep Going[56:00] Betting on North Texas & Discovering the Barnett Shale[01:09:13] 16 Years to an “Overnight” Billion-Dollar Success[01:32:57] Philanthropy, Stewardship & the Purpose of WealthThanks to Our SponsorsOur Presenting Sponsor is Lynn, Pinker, Hurst & Schwegmann. To learn more visit: ⁠⁠⁠lynnllp.com⁠⁠⁠. And thank you for your support.⁠⁠⁠Arcis Golf⁠⁠⁠: A premier owner and operator of private, resort, and daily-fee clubs, delivering exceptional experiences and meaningful local impact. Gliden: Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠glidenindustries.com⁠⁠⁠Brownlee Wealth Management: Visit ⁠⁠⁠bwmplanning.com⁠⁠⁠ to Learn More.Like and Subscribe🍏 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎧 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📹 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠—Editing and Support by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Good Podcast Co.⁠⁠⁠

Victor Vescovo may have one of the most unusual résumés on the planet. He has climbed the highest peak on every continent, skied to both the North and South Poles, descended to the deepest points of the world’s oceans, served as a U.S. Navy intelligence officer, built a successful career in private equity and venture capital, and traveled to space. Yet Victor’s biggest takeaway from those experiences is surprisingly simple: most people underestimate what they are capable of.Victor joins Tom and Kyle to unpack the mindset behind a life spent pushing boundaries. He shares stories from Everest, a near-fatal fall on Aconcagua, the Five Deeps Expedition, piloting a submersible under crushing ocean pressure, discovering historic shipwrecks, serving in military intelligence after 9/11, and experiencing the “overview effect” from space. Along the way, Victor explains why preparation matters more than bravado, why the process matters more than the destination, and why “How hard could it be?” continues to drive him toward whatever comes next.In this Episode[04:51] Human Potential & the Explorer Mindset[09:46] Curiosity, Mortality & a Childhood Car Crash[16:20] MIT, Military Strategy & the Changing Nature of Warfare[32:44] Harvard Business School, Risk & “Don’t Blunder”[36:44] Private Equity, Venture Capital & Colossal Biosciences[41:12] Mount Everest, Aconcagua & the Seven Summits[53:33] Skiing to the North & South Poles[56:00] Building the Five Deeps Expedition[01:12:36] Challenger Deep, New Species & Historic Shipwrecks[01:22:51] Going to Space & What’s Next⁠Learn more about Fortress⁠Thanks to Our SponsorsOur Presenting Sponsor is Lynn, Pinker, Hurst & Schwegmann. To learn more visit: ⁠⁠lynnllp.com⁠⁠. And thank you for your support.⁠⁠Arcis Golf⁠⁠: A premier owner and operator of private, resort, and daily-fee clubs, delivering exceptional experiences and meaningful local impact. Gliden: Learn more at ⁠⁠glidenindustries.com⁠⁠Brownlee Wealth Management: Visit ⁠⁠bwmplanning.com⁠⁠ to Learn More.Like and Subscribe🍏 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎧 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📹 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠—Editing and Support by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Good Podcast Co.⁠⁠⁠

Dr. Robert Jeffress is the senior pastor of First Baptist Dallas and the founder and host of Pathway to Victory. Known nationally for his outspoken views on faith, culture, and politics, Jeffress joins Intersections to share the story behind the public figure—from growing up at First Baptist Dallas and sensing a call to ministry at 15 to leading one of the country’s most historic churches.Jeffress reflects on the mentors and moments that shaped his ministry, including W.A. Criswell, his early years in Eastland and Wichita Falls, and the challenges that taught him to trust God through opposition. He also weighs in on the state of Christianity in America, religious liberty, biblical authority, Gen Z, cultural change, and why he believes churches cannot compromise their convictions simply to accommodate the culture.In This Episode[04:31] From Game Shows to a Calling in Ministry[07:14] Faith, Controversy, and Becoming a “Cultural Warrior”[12:03] Are America’s Pulpits Too Soft?[13:31] The State of Christianity in America[17:17] Christianity, Culture, and the Battle of Worldviews[21:08] Gen Z, Obedience, and the Future of the Church[23:43] What Happened to Christianity in Europe?[27:16] Family, Billy Graham, and the Roots of His Faith[29:51] W.A. Criswell, Calling, and First Baptist Dallas[36:15] Finding God’s Will and Preparing for Ministry[39:52] The Church Fight That Nearly Ended His Ministry[46:09] Pathway to Victory and the Return to First Baptist Dallas Thanks to Our Sponsors⁠⁠Arcis Golf⁠⁠: A premier owner and operator of private, resort, and daily-fee clubs, delivering exceptional experiences and meaningful local impact. Gliden: Learn more at ⁠⁠glidenindustries.com⁠⁠Brownlee Wealth Management: Visit ⁠⁠bwmplanning.com⁠⁠ to Learn More.The Cowgirl Museum: Come see what’s next November 7. cowgirl.net Like and Subscribe🍏 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎧 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📹 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠—Editing and Support by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Good Podcast Co.⁠⁠⁠

Drew McKnight is co-CEO of Fortress Investment Group, where he has spent more than two decades helping build one of the world’s leading alternative asset managers. In this episode, Drew takes us inside the world of private credit and distressed investing—from his early days at Goldman Sachs and Fir Tree to joining Fortress and ultimately helping lead the firm.Drew also shares how his years as a championship lacrosse player at UVA shaped his approach to competition, resilience, and leadership. The conversation goes deep into Fortress itself, including its public offering, acquisition by SoftBank, return to private ownership, and the transition from founder-led leadership. Drew also pulls back the curtain on investments including Red Lobster, Krystal, Arcis Golf, and Theranos, offering a candid look at what happens when investments don’t go according to plan—and why resilience matters just as much in investing as it does in sports.In this Episode[03:09] Inside Fortress Investment Group & the Private Credit Business[05:46] From Virginia Beach and UVA Lacrosse to Goldman Sachs[14:22] Fir Tree, Joining Fortress & Building a Career in Distressed Credit[20:06] Taking Fortress Private, SoftBank & the Co-CEO Transition[29:57] Leadership Lessons, Resilience & the Loss of Josh Pack[34:16] Krystal, Red Lobster & Arcus Golf[43:24] Theranos, Harry Macklowe & High-Risk Structured Deals[50:18] Charles Cohen, Personal Guarantees & Enforcing Credit Agreements[57:03] The U.S. Economy, AI, Data Centers & the Future of Private Credit[01:13:31] Dallas, MP Materials, the Texas Business Environment & Lessons From a Career in InvestingLearn more about FortressThanks to Our SponsorsOur Presenting Sponsor is Lynn, Pinker, Hurst & Schwegmann. To learn more visit: ⁠lynnllp.com⁠. And thank you for your support.⁠Arcis Golf⁠: A premier owner and operator of private, resort, and daily-fee clubs, delivering exceptional experiences and meaningful local impact. Gliden: Learn more at ⁠glidenindustries.com⁠Brownlee Wealth Management: Visit ⁠bwmplanning.com⁠ to Learn More.Like and Subscribe🍏 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎧 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📹 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠—Editing and Support by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Good Podcast Co.⁠⁠⁠

Ben Lamm is the co-founder and CEO of Colossal Biosciences, a company using genetic engineering, computational biology, AI, and reproductive technologies to tackle one of science’s biggest challenges: bringing extinct species back to life while helping protect the species still here.Ben joins Tom and Kyle to unpack the journey from his Texas upbringing and five successful entrepreneurial ventures to a conversation with renowned geneticist George Church that eventually became Colossal. He explains the science behind the company’s dire wolves, shares what it felt like to hear a howl that hadn’t been heard in thousands of years, and breaks down Colossal’s work on woolly mammoths, red wolves, and other species. The conversation also explores conservation, the potential applications of genetic technologies to human health, the ethical boundaries of editing life, and why Ben believes Texas can become a major hub for the next generation of science and technology.In This Episode[03:22] Inside Colossal’s Mission to Reverse Extinction[06:22] Ben Lamm’s Texas Roots & Entrepreneurial Journey[17:19] Betting Early on AI, Defense & Space[24:32] The Conversation That Started Colossal[28:37] The Reality of Entrepreneurship[31:37] How De-Extinction Actually Works[35:37] Bringing Back the Dire Wolf[46:23] Using De-Extinction Technology to Save Endangered Species[55:45] The Race to Bring Back the Woolly Mammoth[01:10:18] The Ethics & Future of Genetic EngineeringThanks to Our SponsorsOur Presenting Sponsor is Lynn, Pinker, Hurst & Schwegmann. To learn more visit: lynnllp.com. And thank you for your support.Arcis Golf: A premier owner and operator of private, resort, and daily-fee clubs, delivering exceptional experiences and meaningful local impact. Gliden: Learn more at glidenindustries.comBrownlee Wealth Management: Visit bwmplanning.com to Learn More.Like and Subscribe🍏 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎧 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📹 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠—Editing and Support by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Good Podcast Co.⁠⁠⁠