Got Your Six with Tony Nash

“The quality of questions you ask in life results in the quality of relationships you have.” 6ers, this episode tackles how finding shared adversity can bring people together and create unbreakable bonds. From brain trust to creating to having emotional intimacy with your colleagues and brothers in and out of the military, shared adversity plays a huge role in the quality of your life. Michael Sarraille is a United States Navy SEAL veteran, founder, and CEO of two executive search and talent consulting firms – Talent War Group and EF Overwatch. He is also the senior leadership instructor at Echelon Front, a veteran-owned leadership training and consulting firm. He is a co-author of the book The Talent War: How Special Operations and Great Organizations Win on Talent. Part of his leadership philosophy is to surround himself with positive-minded, humble, renowned experts in their respective fields. He lives by the mantra ‘iron sharpens iron.’ You will learn how brain trust in an organization can scale and drive its growth, and how creating a culture that puts the bull’s eye to the front nurtures an organization where failure is embraced and learning is promoted and it all results in building stronger relationships. You’ll understand why the highest form of love and compassion is accountability and how this mindset promotes learning and developing a growth mindset. This episode also emphasizes how valuing drive, passion, and effective intelligence over pedigree can help in nurturing talents within an organization. ----- 01:11 - Coming together and finding shared adversity 03:34 - The quality of questions you ask has a great impact on your life 04:53 - Creating a culture with a bull’s eye to the front 05:49 - Breaking down what emotional intimacy means among military members 08:34 - Mike’s story about Dr. Jonny Kim and how it was a lesson in humility 11:30 - The value of asking questions and building brain trust in an organization 14:44 - Finding talent in the business world is tough because of its lack of process 17:29 - Movement is key. Why taking one step at a time is important in the transition 19:46 - Finding a new tribe in the private sector who are warriors in their own profession 21:08 - The highest form of love is accountability ----- Here is how to connect with Mike Sarraille: Instagram Twitter LinkedIn Website ----- Connect with Got Your Six podcast:   Website Instagram LinkedIn Twitter TikTok ----- Connect with Tony Nash: Website LinkedIn Instagram Twitter

6ers, Katie’s journey and inspiring story in this episode is a powerful reminder that following one’s passion and taking chances can lead you to incredible experiences. Whether you’re pursuing a career, a hobby, or a personal goal, they key is to approach it with enthusiasm, commitment, and sometimes, the willingness to take risks that will help you explore new territories and test your own limits. Katie Hernandez is a US Army Captain and a World Record holder. In 2021, she broke the women’s Guinness World Record for the fastest one-mile run (10 minutes and 23 seconds) in an 85-pound explosive ordnance disposal (EOD) bomb suit. Previously stationed in Hawaii, she completed the 25th Infantry Division's Pre-Ranger Program in 2016 and was the first woman to do so. Katie is also a massive supporter of the Military Family Program, which seeks to provide veterans and their families a free platform containing relevant programs and resources on different topics such as jobs, transition, education, and scholarships. You will learn that showing up every day with a sense of purpose and commitment is the key to experiencing success that can have a long-lasting impact that you can share with your community. It’s about gaining that momentum and being able to explore new territories to test one’s limits. Finding the strength to move forward is often times found in the relationships you build. By surrounding yourself with a community that supports your goals, you refine your objectives and you become more inspired to the best version of yourself. ----- 01:19 - Katie’s unconventional journey from push-up contest to the military 01:57 - Why it’s important to get into the military school for the right reasons 04:37 - What The Human Performance Project is all about 06:10 - Breaking 1-Mile Run World Record in an Explosive Ordinance Disposal (EOD) bomb suit 08:35 - The power of showing up every day and gaining momentum 10:30 - Getting involved in the 7X Project in Antarctica and Tip of the Spear 12:11 - Self-reflection and the importance of calling your own bullshit 13:19 - Grace over quantity: Why doing less can lead to better success 14:44 - How to focus on breath control during peak moments 15:58 - Participating in Tactical Games where CrossFit meets combat 18:44 - Finding passion in CrossFit ----- Here is how to connect with Katie Hernandez: Instagram ----- Connect with Got Your Six podcast: Website Instagram LinkedIn Twitter TikTok Connect with Tony Nash: Website LinkedIn Instagram Twitter

6ers, gardening has long been viewed as a way to connect with nature. But for others like Sean, the benefits and rewards are more than that. As a PTSD survivor, Sean believes caring for plants gave him purpose and a sense of responsibility. It also taught one of the key skills cultivated through horticulture: tactical patience. Sean Fowler is a US Army veteran, program analyst (policy) at the Federal Emergency Management Authority (FEMA), home plant content creator/influencer on Instagram, and advocate for home plants/gardening as a treatment for PTSD. He is passionate about treating PTSD using house plants after sustaining a chronic injury in an explosion in Iraq. You will learn how Sean gained a sense of responsibility that was missing in his life through gardening. By being fully engaged tending to his garden, he learned the importance of being intentional with his actions and taking ownership of his life. Fostering deeper connections with our environment and to the people around us teaches us that we can rely on the support and feedback of others. In a world that often feels disconnected, gardening offers a reminder that we can all be part of something greater. Veterans don’t need to be islands and don’t need to struggle with the challenges of transition and reintegration. By finding activities that can bring you joy and sense of purpose, you can begin to heal and move forward with greater confidence and resilience. ----- Resources mentioned: Lively Root  ----- 00:58 - Exploring the practice of horticulture as a metaphor for a better life 02:05 - Sean’s discovery of a meaningful sense of responsibility through caring for plants 04:30 - The value of tactical patience in understanding your environment 06:26 - The importance of humility and listening to the observations of those who care about you 08:39 - The benefits of pursuing a hobby you’re passionate about 9:19 - Drawing parallels between the breadth of human experience and gardening 11:05 - Finding inspiration from others for content creation and adding a unique spin 15:07 - How meditation became a big part of his healing journey  16:59 - Sean’s personal struggle with maintaining integrity and accountability 19:14 - Integrity also means the overall workability of your life 20:16 - Veterans don’t need to have to suffer alone ----- Here is how to connect with Sean Fowler: Instagram LinkedIn TikTok  --- Connect with Got Your Six podcast: Website Instagram LinkedIn Twitter TikTok Connect with Tony Nash: Website LinkedIn Instagram Twitter

6ers, as you embark on your journey of personal and professional growth, let Glenn Gonzales, founder and CEO of Jet It, aid in some course corrections that will lead you to success. In this episode of the Got Your Six podcast, Glenn shares his unique insights on the power of positive friction, and how you can use it to your advantage. Glenn's 5Ds - Dream, Data, Discipline, Determination, and Decision-making - are a testament to his success in both the Air Force and the business world. By embracing these values, you too can overcome challenges and achieve your goals. But it's not just about individual success. Glenn emphasizes the importance of creating an inclusive workplace that values diversity of thought. By encouraging open conversation and sharing different points of view, you can get better results and make the environment more productive. Don't let mistakes or failures hold you back. Glenn believes that debriefing and learning from these experiences can lead to lifelong success. By taking the time to reflect and grow, you can turn a negative into a positive. Step into the breach with us, and embrace the power of positive friction to achieve your goals and drive lifelong success with Glenn's valuable insights. ----- Resources mentioned: The Art of Possibility by Benjamin Zander ----- 00:40 - Finding tenacity internally and talking about his faith 04:26 - Applying positive friction in your organization 05:48 - Keeping diversity in thought alive in the organization 06:58 - How not to take psychological safety in the organization NOT taken for granted 08:11 - Glenn explains Jet It company 09:23 - 5Ds (Dream, Data, Discipline, Determined, Decision-making) of Success 11:04 - Trusting your plan and making sound decisions 11:38 - Scale is all about your base and the fundamentals 12:47 - Life has a way of keeping you humble 14:18 - Mistakes can be fascinating 15:55 - The importance of debriefing is finding the root cause 18:07 - Balancing your values and not being allergic to bureaucracies 19:11 - Holding yourself accountable 19:43 - Failures are fascinating learning opportunities 20:35 - You can be better than yesterday when you do your own personal debrief ----- Here is how to connect with Glenn Gonzales: Website LinkedIn Twitter YouTube Instagram ----- Connect with Got Your Six podcast: Website Instagram LinkedIn Twitter TikTok Connect with Tony: Website LinkedIn Instagram Twitter

One concept that is critical when you are in a leadership role is the importance of having a team that follows you because they want to and not because they have to. When your team trusts and respects you, they are more likely to be invested in your success, give you honest feedback and go above and beyond their duties. Steven Nisbet is a US Special Warfare Airman veteran and the president/co-founder of Shields & Stripes; a non-profit organization dedicated to serving our nation's heroes; Law Enforcement, First Responders, and Veterans. He is passionate about helping others; as a pararescueman and founder of Shields & Stripes. Steven received a bachelor’s in Sports & Fitness Administration/Management from American Military University in 2022. You will learn that in the pursuit of professional success, it is easy to overlook the importance of investing in what truly matters to us. This episode will remind us of the significance of putting in the effort, making sacrifices, and allowing ourselves to focus our energy on what truly matters as well as tending to our mental and emotional well-being, to cultivate resilience that will truly benefit our careers. Steve’s insights on PTSD and self-forgiveness remind us of the importance of giving ourselves grace and by embracing our vulnerability and seeking help, we can discover new facets our ourselves that can help develop greater self-awareness necessary for our own growth and transformation. ----- 01:10 - Making your team follow you because they want to, not because they have to 02:39 - What are you willing to put in for things that matter to you? 05:44 - Finding ways to give yourself grace and permission to fail 07:35 - Taking a step back to avoid burnout 09:19 - Losing teammates and gaining perspective of what really matters in life 11:46 - How do you help yourself lift the invisible weight off? 13:47 - PTSD does not look the same for everyone 17:58 - Steve explains the Shield and Stripes program 20:50 - What led Steven to seek help with his PTSD 23:11 - Steven talks about how he lost his faith and rediscovered newfound faith 24:31 - Finding forgiveness for yourself for things you cannot control ----- Here is how to connect with Steven Nisbet: LinkedIn Facebook Website  Instagram YouTube -----  Connect with Got Your Six podcast: Website Instagram LinkedIn Twitter TikTok Connect with Tony Nash: Website LinkedIn Instagram Twitter

6ers, “service before self” is a core value ingrained in the military culture and is exemplified by the actions of Medal of Honor recipients. It’s a selfless attitude that encourages you to consider the impact of your actions on others and prioritize the greater good. It’s a value worth emulating in everyday life. Darrell Utt is a Green Berets veteran, the chief of business operations at the National Medal of Honor Museum, and sits on the Arlington Convention & Visitors Bureau board. He enlisted in the US Army in 1990, served in the infantry until 1996 when he joined the Army Special Forces (Green Berets), and served until his retirement in 2016. He believes in the quote, “Service before self.” You will learn about how Darrell’s background with a mix of military service and football coaching taught him the value of discipline, teamwork, and service before self. He is now bringing these lessons on a new mission to inspire future generations to understand the true cost of freedom by telling compelling stories. Overcoming his introversion and participating in more engagements, Darrell never stops in developing and improving himself as a leader. His personal failures as a partner despite being at the height of his career helped him change his trajectory and create his own definition of success. ----- 01:10 - How a football coach taught Darrell the values that align with military values 02:39 - That moment Darrell had an epiphany to try out for the Special Forces 05:44 - What the Medal of Honor represents and weaving it into stories that are wrapped around American values 11:47 - Overcoming introversion and striving to participate in more engagements 16:24 - Meeting with Charlotte Jones of the Dallas Cowboys 17:58 - Service before self after the uniform  20:50 - A story about the sneaker RDC shoes created after the 9/11 23:12 - Facing relationship failure in the midst of career success 27:04 - Have a little gratitude ----- Here is how to connect with Darrell Utt: LinkedIn ----- Connect with Got Your Six podcast: Website Instagram LinkedIn Twitter TikTok Connect with Tony: Website LinkedIn Instagram Twitter

6ers, in a culture where there is often an expectation to choose one career path or focus on a singular passion, you can dare to be a trailblazer. The reality is that many people have multiple interests and are actually capable of pursuing them. Kellie Sbrocchi is a U.S. Navy HR Officer, photographer/owner of Kellie Rene Photography, and host of the MissUnderstood Podcast. She is passionate about small-unit leadership, departmental leadership, sales, marketing, recruiting, public affairs, photography, writing, and public speaking. Kellie believes being “Miss” Understood by others and in passions means you're closer to understanding your OWN life. You will learn about the importance of prioritizing things that bring joy in life, even if they are a bit unconventional and not in line with society’s expectations. You only have this one life so if something no longer fills your cup, you’re allowed to turn your back on it and pursue something that aligns with your passions. Kellie’s journey is a testament to how it’s possible to navigate different paths and how there is a place for multi-passionate individuals to be successful. It is time that we become more open, celebrate individuality, even if in a rigid environment like the army, and encourage the people behind us to explore their unique talents and interests. ----- 01:14 - When something brings you joy, you prioritize it whatever that looks like 02:54 - Turning away from something that no longer fills your cup 06:03 - First experience with cyberbullying as a Naval officer joining a beauty pageant 09:27 - Kellie shares a candid moment 14:20 - Finding people and connecting them together 16:25 - How Kellie figured out how to pay for college and decided to join the track and field team 18:44 - A “What-If” mindset that challenged her to pursue the different things that bring her joy 20:54 - How Kellie hustled to get into the HR community in the Navy 25:32 - You will still mess up but just keep picking yourself up ----- Here is how to to connect with Kellie Hall Sbrocchi: Instagram MissUnderstood Podcast LinkedIn ----- Connect with Got Your Six podcast: Website Instagram LinkedIn Twitter TikTok ----- Connect with Tony: Website LinkedIn Instagram Twitter

6ers, we all know that physical fitness is a crucial component of the military culture. But to unlock our highest potential, we need to incorporate a broader range of metrics that will help us better understand how exercise affects overall health and well-being, leading to more personalized and effective training programs. Alex Morrow is a U.S. Army veteran and the founder of MOPs and MOEs brand and podcast. He is passionate about the Army’s physical fitness and believes soldiers can perform better if the Measurements Of Effectiveness (MOEs) of their training tasks are taken into consideration. Alex graduated from West Point in 2013 with a degree in International Relations and Affairs. He served as an intelligence officer and later a fitness instructor in the US Army until 2021. You will learn about the difference between measures of performance (MOPs) and measures of effectiveness (MOEs) and how they play a role in achieving a desired outcome. Alex shares how important it is to seek out things you’re not good at by being comfortable outside of your comfort zone so you can learn and grow exponentially. As a result, you’ll realize that more learning happens when you’re wrong than when you’re right, which is why it’s so important to have people in your circle that hold you accountable because it allows you to work on your weaknesses from a place of inspiration. ----- 01:21 - How Alex found his passion 02:47 - Gradual process of getting into the fitness and how he handled identity shift 05:19 - Working on your weakness from a place of inspiration 07:12 - Not all of your ideas will resonate with the audience 08:47 - How Alex combats impostor syndrome 10:28 - Convincing the leadership and framing up conversations in a productive way 11:49 - Rethinking the way we think about physical training and holistic health 14:05 - Measures of performance (MOPs) and measures of effectiveness (MOEs) 18:37 - The process of learning and the danger of getting to the peak of ‘Mount Stupid’ 20:19 - Having people that tell you, “you are being dumb,” is really important 21:38 - The fumbling phase of when you launch a project is a learning phase ----- Here is how to connect with Alex Morrow: Instagram  LinkedIn Website MOPs and MOEs podcast ----- Connect with Got Your Six podcast: Website Instagram LinkedIn Twitter TikTok ----- Connect with Tony: Website LinkedIn Instagram Twitter

6ers, being a successful organization is more than just having a great idea. In this episode, Ryan shares his experience transitioning from civilian work to building a team in the Navy and eventually founding one of the most successful subscription-based companies in the entertainment industry in the true crime genre. Ryan Hogan is a US Navy veteran, a US Navy reservist, and the co-founder/CEO of Hunt A Killer, an immersive murder mystery game that challenges players to catch a killer through interactive monthly membership boxes and premium one-time experiences. For Ryan, the name of the game is delegation. He believes in empowering his team by giving them autonomy, which leads to better decision-making, improved productivity, and focusing on improving the experience for the end user as everyone understands how they feel. You will learn the value of getting direct feedback from those inside and outside your team as a way to build trust. You will also learn how to delegate in a way that empowers your team and builds a strong culture where people leave their egos at the door so they can build a product or service that fits the company's values. ----- 01:08 - The name of the game is TEAM 03:53 - Transitioning from 10 year-civilian work to building a team in the Navy 05:31 - How they started with Run For Your Lives 07:50 - Ego checks in task delegation 09:37 - Investing back into the Run For Your Lives Community 10:53 - Building trust around what customers think 12:12 - The creative evolution of the Hunt A Killer 13:51 - Taking the feedback loop and applying it to his role in the Navy 14:54 - Learning more about assertiveness and being more direct with feedback 16:05 - Trust is earned in drops and lost in buckets 17:15 - How are you living the values of the organization in the products that you create? 20:25 - The team gets the wins, and as a leader, you get the losses ----- Here is how to connect with Ryan Hogan: Website  Instagram  Twitter LinkedIn ----- Connect with Got Your Six podcast: Website Instagram LinkedIn Twitter TikTok ----- Connect with Tony Nash: Website LinkedIn Instagram Twitter

6ers, we know that the Army values strength, determination, and perseverance, but sometimes this can lead to a culture that does not encourage vulnerability. Sidney Jaques’ experience demonstrates that balancing your grit with feminine qualities is a powerful antidote for this kind of culture. Balancing grit as a woman requires a more nuanced understanding of how to leverage feminine qualities such as nurturing skills, emotional intelligence, and empathy. Major Sidney Jaques is an Adjutant General Army officer, the 2nd woman to serve in the 75th Ranger Regiment, and the creator of Balance Your Grit, a network for trailblazing military women. Balancing grit is becoming increasingly important for women, especially in male-dominated fields like the military. There is a need for a supportive environment in any team environment as Sidney references her days on the hardwood at The University of Scranton to her time in the Amry, where one can maintain being persistent and tenacious in their goals while also seeking support when needed and prioritizing their mental health and emotional well-being. As a result, you will discover that feminine qualities, regardless of gender, can be a source of strength and resilience. By being more comfortable in how you express yourself, you can build stronger relationships with your colleagues and superiors, communicate more effectively, and inspire others. ----- 00:57 - Sidney ties in parallel methods and practices as a Collegiate basketball player and the Army community 03:13 - How great team support its members and how a sense of community gave her confidence 03:49 - Being outside of her comfort zone for the team and the younger generation of women in the Army 05:54 - This is what I have loved about the army: the selflessness. The ones that are great are very selfless. 06:32 - You can still make a comeback after a bad streak of games if you just keep going 07:57 - Growing up in a rough culture and not knowing how to process and communicate when something is wrong 09:16 - How her social media page allowed her to actually control gradually how much she can share and come back to its purpose 11:29 - Getting into a creative rut and how she deals with it and recenter 13:13 - Her growing focus on connecting and matching people that can help each other 16:06 - Taking the big sister role professionally 17:44 - How Sidney came up with Balance Your Grit 20:13 - The challenges of maintaining your identity as a woman 21:21 - Finding fulfillment in embracing her feminine side and how it liberated her true self ----- Connect with Sidney Jaques: Instagram ----- Connect with Got Your Six podcast: Website Instagram LinkedIn Twitter TikTok ----- Connect with Tony Nash: Website LinkedIn Instagram Twitter